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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,655
    mace1229 said:
    my2hands said:
    Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks? 

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897

    To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
    With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.
    Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?
    We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
    Because it hadn’t been going on “for generations.”
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,017
    mace1229 said:
    my2hands said:
    Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks? 

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897

    To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
    With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.
    Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?
    We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
    Because it hadn’t been going on “for generations.”
    So you really believe if Obama had ran the same campaign, had the same views, did everything the same but was white, he would have had more support from republicans and would have faced less opposition and would have passed all sorts of gun bans and so on?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,655
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    my2hands said:
    Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks? 

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897

    To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
    With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.
    Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?
    We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
    Because it hadn’t been going on “for generations.”
    So you really believe if Obama had ran the same campaign, had the same views, did everything the same but was white, he would have had more support from republicans and would have faced less opposition and would have passed all sorts of gun bans and so on?
    Yes but not on the gun bans, that’s a lost cause. Jesus Mace, the repubs wouldn’t even attend the WH Christmas party hosted by the Obama’s.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,017
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    my2hands said:
    Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks? 

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897

    To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
    With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.
    Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?
    We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
    Because it hadn’t been going on “for generations.”
    So you really believe if Obama had ran the same campaign, had the same views, did everything the same but was white, he would have had more support from republicans and would have faced less opposition and would have passed all sorts of gun bans and so on?
    Yes but not on the gun bans, that’s a lost cause. Jesus Mace, the repubs wouldn’t even attend the WH Christmas party hosted by the Obama’s.
    And many of the Dems wouldn't attend Trump's inauguration. Repubs tried to impeach Clinton over a sex scandal. It really isn't anything new, and I haven't seen anything that makes me believe Obama was disliked/hated because of his color over his politics.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,655
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    my2hands said:
    Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks? 

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897

    To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
    With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.
    Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?
    We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
    Because it hadn’t been going on “for generations.”
    So you really believe if Obama had ran the same campaign, had the same views, did everything the same but was white, he would have had more support from republicans and would have faced less opposition and would have passed all sorts of gun bans and so on?
    Yes but not on the gun bans, that’s a lost cause. Jesus Mace, the repubs wouldn’t even attend the WH Christmas party hosted by the Obama’s.
    And many of the Dems wouldn't attend Trump's inauguration. Repubs tried to impeach Clinton over a sex scandal. It really isn't anything new, and I haven't seen anything that makes me believe Obama was disliked/hated because of his color over his politics.
    What you posited, that "its been going on for generations,' legislatively, is not true. Prior to Obama, dems and repubs regularly worked across the aisle. See Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush. The bi-partisanship ended with Obama, despite his adaption of previously repub positions. I get it, "you're okay with it."
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,731
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    my2hands said:
    Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks? 

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897

    To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
    With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.
    Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?
    We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
    Because it hadn’t been going on “for generations.”
    So you really believe if Obama had ran the same campaign, had the same views, did everything the same but was white, he would have had more support from republicans and would have faced less opposition and would have passed all sorts of gun bans and so on?
    Yes but not on the gun bans, that’s a lost cause. Jesus Mace, the repubs wouldn’t even attend the WH Christmas party hosted by the Obama’s.
    And many of the Dems wouldn't attend Trump's inauguration. Repubs tried to impeach Clinton over a sex scandal. It really isn't anything new, and I haven't seen anything that makes me believe Obama was disliked/hated because of his color over his politics.
    Yeah me either. I'm sure deep-down the Limbaughs and Hannitys of the world definitely didn't like the idea of a black president. But I have no way of proving that, and they bashed him in the same way they'd bash the Clintons. So on the surface, they treated him as they would any democrat. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    Drain the swamp? Not working for putin on the ritz? WTF? Because this is how an up and up White House and POTUS should operate, right? But you're "okay with it."

    Ms. Newbold told the committee’s staff members that the clearance applications had been denied for a variety of reasons, including “foreign influence, conflicts of interest, concerning personal conduct, financial problems, drug use, and criminal conduct,” the memo said. The denials by the career employees were overturned, she said, by more-senior officials who did not follow the procedures designed to mitigate security risks.

    In one case, she said that a senior White House official was denied a clearance after a background check turned up concerns about possible foreign influence, “employment outside or businesses external to what your position at the EOP entails,” and the official’s personal conduct. Mr. Kline stepped in to reverse the decision, she said, writing in the relevant file that “the activities occurred prior to Federal service” without addressing concerns raised by Ms. Newbold and another colleague.

    In the case of the second senior White House official, Ms. Newbold told the committee that a specialist reviewing the clearance application wrote a 14-page memo detailing disqualifying concerns, including possible foreign influence. She said that Mr. Kline instructed her “do not touch” the case, and soon granted the official clearance.

    Ms. Newbold also asserted that Trump administration had made changes to security protocols that made it easier for individuals to get clearances. The changes included stopping credit checks on applicants to work in the White House, which she said helps identify if employees of the president could be susceptible to blackmail. She also said the White House had stopped, for a time, the practice of reinvestigating certain applicants who had received security clearances in the past.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/us/politics/trump-security-clearances.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


    This is just insider DC stuff. Real Americans aren't concerned about who has top secret clearance and whether they are potentially compromised. This article guarantees a Trump victory in 2020.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,017
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    my2hands said:
    Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks? 

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897

    To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
    With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.
    Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?
    We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
    Because it hadn’t been going on “for generations.”
    So you really believe if Obama had ran the same campaign, had the same views, did everything the same but was white, he would have had more support from republicans and would have faced less opposition and would have passed all sorts of gun bans and so on?
    Yes but not on the gun bans, that’s a lost cause. Jesus Mace, the repubs wouldn’t even attend the WH Christmas party hosted by the Obama’s.
    And many of the Dems wouldn't attend Trump's inauguration. Repubs tried to impeach Clinton over a sex scandal. It really isn't anything new, and I haven't seen anything that makes me believe Obama was disliked/hated because of his color over his politics.
    What you posited, that "its been going on for generations,' legislatively, is not true. Prior to Obama, dems and repubs regularly worked across the aisle. See Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush. The bi-partisanship ended with Obama, despite his adaption of previously repub positions. I get it, "you're okay with it."
    No, I just don't believe all the criticism of Obama is about race. And I don't believe it would have been any different were he white. 
    Today you can't criticize Obama without someone calling you racist. Its ridiculous. 
    And There were plenty of issues that they could not agree with on Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush Reprise. I would agree it didn't seem as extreme back then, but every 4 years it seems like it got worse than the previous 4.
    Thats just my opinion, I can't prove the motivation wasn't racially motivated just like you can't prove it was I guess.
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,731
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    my2hands said:
    Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks? 

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897

    To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
    With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.
    Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?
    We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
    Because it hadn’t been going on “for generations.”
    So you really believe if Obama had ran the same campaign, had the same views, did everything the same but was white, he would have had more support from republicans and would have faced less opposition and would have passed all sorts of gun bans and so on?
    Yes but not on the gun bans, that’s a lost cause. Jesus Mace, the repubs wouldn’t even attend the WH Christmas party hosted by the Obama’s.
    And many of the Dems wouldn't attend Trump's inauguration. Repubs tried to impeach Clinton over a sex scandal. It really isn't anything new, and I haven't seen anything that makes me believe Obama was disliked/hated because of his color over his politics.
    Yeah me either. I'm sure deep-down the Limbaughs and Hannitys of the world definitely didn't like the idea of a black president. But I have no way of proving that, and they bashed him in the same way they'd bash the Clintons. So on the surface, they treated him as they would any democrat. 
    After re-reading this, I disagree with what I just typed a few minutes ago. The Republicans blocked nearly every bit of legislation that Obama proposed with not much more of an explanation than "fuck Obama." And Limbaugh did say that he hoped Obama failed. If someone said the same thing about Trump, he'd rant about how if Trump fails, we all fail. Well why wasn't that his view on Obama? 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    The security issue is appalling.  But do we expect anything else? He will bend or break any rule for himself or family.  It's repulsive. 
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    Drain the swamp? Not working for putin on the ritz? WTF? Because this is how an up and up White House and POTUS should operate, right? But you're "okay with it."

    Ms. Newbold told the committee’s staff members that the clearance applications had been denied for a variety of reasons, including “foreign influence, conflicts of interest, concerning personal conduct, financial problems, drug use, and criminal conduct,” the memo said. The denials by the career employees were overturned, she said, by more-senior officials who did not follow the procedures designed to mitigate security risks.

    In one case, she said that a senior White House official was denied a clearance after a background check turned up concerns about possible foreign influence, “employment outside or businesses external to what your position at the EOP entails,” and the official’s personal conduct. Mr. Kline stepped in to reverse the decision, she said, writing in the relevant file that “the activities occurred prior to Federal service” without addressing concerns raised by Ms. Newbold and another colleague.

    In the case of the second senior White House official, Ms. Newbold told the committee that a specialist reviewing the clearance application wrote a 14-page memo detailing disqualifying concerns, including possible foreign influence. She said that Mr. Kline instructed her “do not touch” the case, and soon granted the official clearance.

    Ms. Newbold also asserted that Trump administration had made changes to security protocols that made it easier for individuals to get clearances. The changes included stopping credit checks on applicants to work in the White House, which she said helps identify if employees of the president could be susceptible to blackmail. She also said the White House had stopped, for a time, the practice of reinvestigating certain applicants who had received security clearances in the past.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/us/politics/trump-security-clearances.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


    This is just insider DC stuff. Real Americans aren't concerned about who has top secret clearance and whether they are potentially compromised. This article guarantees a Trump victory in 2020.
    Now you're getting it lol
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,655
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    my2hands said:
    Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks? 

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897

    To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
    With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.
    Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?
    We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
    Because it hadn’t been going on “for generations.”
    So you really believe if Obama had ran the same campaign, had the same views, did everything the same but was white, he would have had more support from republicans and would have faced less opposition and would have passed all sorts of gun bans and so on?
    Yes but not on the gun bans, that’s a lost cause. Jesus Mace, the repubs wouldn’t even attend the WH Christmas party hosted by the Obama’s.
    And many of the Dems wouldn't attend Trump's inauguration. Repubs tried to impeach Clinton over a sex scandal. It really isn't anything new, and I haven't seen anything that makes me believe Obama was disliked/hated because of his color over his politics.
    Yeah me either. I'm sure deep-down the Limbaughs and Hannitys of the world definitely didn't like the idea of a black president. But I have no way of proving that, and they bashed him in the same way they'd bash the Clintons. So on the surface, they treated him as they would any democrat. 
    After re-reading this, I disagree with what I just typed a few minutes ago. The Republicans blocked nearly every bit of legislation that Obama proposed with not much more of an explanation than "fuck Obama." And Limbaugh did say that he hoped Obama failed. If someone said the same thing about Trump, he'd rant about how if Trump fails, we all fail. Well why wasn't that his view on Obama? 
    The fucking majority leader of the senate said it, not just Rushbo. And he broke with every senate tradition regarding the confirmation process and allowing legislation a vote. Boehner and McConnell both come from a generation and states where white people just don’t take direction from a black man. Regardless of party. I can’t believe the denial I’m seeing today. Some on here are “okay with it.” I get it.
     
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Just stop, everybody that is white and disagrees with you is a racist in your eyes

    It's hilarious at this point
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Drain the swamp? Not working for putin on the ritz? WTF? Because this is how an up and up White House and POTUS should operate, right? But you're "okay with it."

    Ms. Newbold told the committee’s staff members that the clearance applications had been denied for a variety of reasons, including “foreign influence, conflicts of interest, concerning personal conduct, financial problems, drug use, and criminal conduct,” the memo said. The denials by the career employees were overturned, she said, by more-senior officials who did not follow the procedures designed to mitigate security risks.

    In one case, she said that a senior White House official was denied a clearance after a background check turned up concerns about possible foreign influence, “employment outside or businesses external to what your position at the EOP entails,” and the official’s personal conduct. Mr. Kline stepped in to reverse the decision, she said, writing in the relevant file that “the activities occurred prior to Federal service” without addressing concerns raised by Ms. Newbold and another colleague.

    In the case of the second senior White House official, Ms. Newbold told the committee that a specialist reviewing the clearance application wrote a 14-page memo detailing disqualifying concerns, including possible foreign influence. She said that Mr. Kline instructed her “do not touch” the case, and soon granted the official clearance.

    Ms. Newbold also asserted that Trump administration had made changes to security protocols that made it easier for individuals to get clearances. The changes included stopping credit checks on applicants to work in the White House, which she said helps identify if employees of the president could be susceptible to blackmail. She also said the White House had stopped, for a time, the practice of reinvestigating certain applicants who had received security clearances in the past.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/us/politics/trump-security-clearances.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


    This is just insider DC stuff. Real Americans aren't concerned about who has top secret clearance and whether they are potentially compromised. This article guarantees a Trump victory in 2020.
    Now you're getting it lol
    Real Americans are only concerned about what Trump tells them to be concerned about.  I get it now,  suspend critical thinking and it's all good.  I feel the warm blanket of Trumpism enveloping me....
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,655
    my2hands said:
    Just stop, everybody that is white and disagrees with you is a racist in your eyes

    It's hilarious at this point
    LOL.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Drain the swamp? Not working for putin on the ritz? WTF? Because this is how an up and up White House and POTUS should operate, right? But you're "okay with it."

    Ms. Newbold told the committee’s staff members that the clearance applications had been denied for a variety of reasons, including “foreign influence, conflicts of interest, concerning personal conduct, financial problems, drug use, and criminal conduct,” the memo said. The denials by the career employees were overturned, she said, by more-senior officials who did not follow the procedures designed to mitigate security risks.

    In one case, she said that a senior White House official was denied a clearance after a background check turned up concerns about possible foreign influence, “employment outside or businesses external to what your position at the EOP entails,” and the official’s personal conduct. Mr. Kline stepped in to reverse the decision, she said, writing in the relevant file that “the activities occurred prior to Federal service” without addressing concerns raised by Ms. Newbold and another colleague.

    In the case of the second senior White House official, Ms. Newbold told the committee that a specialist reviewing the clearance application wrote a 14-page memo detailing disqualifying concerns, including possible foreign influence. She said that Mr. Kline instructed her “do not touch” the case, and soon granted the official clearance.

    Ms. Newbold also asserted that Trump administration had made changes to security protocols that made it easier for individuals to get clearances. The changes included stopping credit checks on applicants to work in the White House, which she said helps identify if employees of the president could be susceptible to blackmail. She also said the White House had stopped, for a time, the practice of reinvestigating certain applicants who had received security clearances in the past.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/us/politics/trump-security-clearances.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


    This is just insider DC stuff. Real Americans aren't concerned about who has top secret clearance and whether they are potentially compromised. This article guarantees a Trump victory in 2020.
    Now you're getting it lol
    Real Americans are only concerned about what Trump tells them to be concerned about.  I get it now,  suspend critical thinking and it's all good.  I feel the warm blanket of Trumpism enveloping me....
    You're a fast learner
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,561
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Drain the swamp? Not working for putin on the ritz? WTF? Because this is how an up and up White House and POTUS should operate, right? But you're "okay with it."

    Ms. Newbold told the committee’s staff members that the clearance applications had been denied for a variety of reasons, including “foreign influence, conflicts of interest, concerning personal conduct, financial problems, drug use, and criminal conduct,” the memo said. The denials by the career employees were overturned, she said, by more-senior officials who did not follow the procedures designed to mitigate security risks.

    In one case, she said that a senior White House official was denied a clearance after a background check turned up concerns about possible foreign influence, “employment outside or businesses external to what your position at the EOP entails,” and the official’s personal conduct. Mr. Kline stepped in to reverse the decision, she said, writing in the relevant file that “the activities occurred prior to Federal service” without addressing concerns raised by Ms. Newbold and another colleague.

    In the case of the second senior White House official, Ms. Newbold told the committee that a specialist reviewing the clearance application wrote a 14-page memo detailing disqualifying concerns, including possible foreign influence. She said that Mr. Kline instructed her “do not touch” the case, and soon granted the official clearance.

    Ms. Newbold also asserted that Trump administration had made changes to security protocols that made it easier for individuals to get clearances. The changes included stopping credit checks on applicants to work in the White House, which she said helps identify if employees of the president could be susceptible to blackmail. She also said the White House had stopped, for a time, the practice of reinvestigating certain applicants who had received security clearances in the past.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/us/politics/trump-security-clearances.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


    This is just insider DC stuff. Real Americans aren't concerned about who has top secret clearance and whether they are potentially compromised. This article guarantees a Trump victory in 2020.
    Now you're getting it lol
    Real Americans are only concerned about what Trump tells them to be concerned about.  I get it now,  suspend critical thinking and it's all good.  I feel the warm blanket of Trumpism enveloping me....
    Leftists and libs and socialists oh my
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,312
    BS is a Canadian.  Why would you care what a Canadian with zero influence has to say.  I know us Canadians are great, but not that influential in others countries politics...lol
    He was the one spiking the football remember if he’s a Canadian why does he have such interest in the Baffoon winning..
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,312
    McConnell the day after Obama wins the WH our number 1 priority is to make sure he fails not in such words but just plain divisive ! 
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    BS is a Canadian.  Why would you care what a Canadian with zero influence has to say.  I know us Canadians are great, but not that influential in others countries politics...lol
    He was the one spiking the football remember if he’s a Canadian why does he have such interest in the Baffoon winning..
    No idea.  He has no vote.  
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    BS is a Canadian.  Why would you care what a Canadian with zero influence has to say.  I know us Canadians are great, but not that influential in others countries politics...lol
    He was the one spiking the football remember if he’s a Canadian why does he have such interest in the Baffoon winning..
    No idea.  He has no vote.  
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,664
    mrussel1 said:
    The security issue is appalling.  But do we expect anything else? He will bend or break any rule for himself or family.  It's repulsive. 
    A major scandal in any other admin, but with trump this will be forgotten tomorrow unless the House picks it up. Kushner needs to go 
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    BS is a Canadian.  Why would you care what a Canadian with zero influence has to say.  I know us Canadians are great, but not that influential in others countries politics...lol
    He was the one spiking the football remember if he’s a Canadian why does he have such interest in the Baffoon winning..
    No idea.  He has no vote.  
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,248
    I see some are willing to accept revisionist history 'round these parts or do whatever it takes to make "both sides" true. Carry on. Anyone who doesn't agree is just some crazy liberal who can't get over it. Ok, whatever you say. Let's just let it all slide. The justice system is a joke and much like political outcomes, varies dependent on your socio-economic class, race, gender and age (to some extent). Does anybody really question whether a rich white dude and Joe-blow citizen get the same treatment in the legal system? What's ironic, is that we get a case like Jussie Smollet out there, which is shady as hell, and now it's a both side situation? I think there should be a flow chart because Smollet checks boxes on both sides. Charges for white collar crime is non-existent until you get someone like Mueller spending almost 2 years bringing down a bunch of privileged assholes. Newsflash, Don is a rich privileged asshole who happens to be the most powerful person in our country right now. Do you really need to read a 400 page report to figure out that he has cheated, lied and swindled his entire life, including as president. Why does anyone want someone like this as president? That is the question to be asking, not whether Obama was discriminated against because of his race. Why the fuck is Trump getting a pass for any reason? It's unbelievable. A fucking broken clock is correct twice a day as well, doesn't mean I'm going to rely on it to determine my day.

    And then there's this, I work at a college in MN and someone literally came to class today wearing this.

    What the fuck?! Why? Where does one even find shit like this?
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    Trying to provoke a response so they can ba a victim and make it to Fox
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,312
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    my2hands said:
    Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks? 

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897

    To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
    With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.
    Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?
    We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
    Because it hadn’t been going on “for generations.”
    So you really believe if Obama had ran the same campaign, had the same views, did everything the same but was white, he would have had more support from republicans and would have faced less opposition and would have passed all sorts of gun bans and so on?
    Yes but not on the gun bans, that’s a lost cause. Jesus Mace, the repubs wouldn’t even attend the WH Christmas party hosted by the Obama’s.
    And many of the Dems wouldn't attend Trump's inauguration. Repubs tried to impeach Clinton over a sex scandal. It really isn't anything new, and I haven't seen anything that makes me believe Obama was disliked/hated because of his color over his politics.
    What you posited, that "its been going on for generations,' legislatively, is not true. Prior to Obama, dems and repubs regularly worked across the aisle. See Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush. The bi-partisanship ended with Obama, despite his adaption of previously repub positions. I get it, "you're okay with it."
    No, I just don't believe all the criticism of Obama is about race. And I don't believe it would have been any different were he white. 
    Today you can't criticize Obama without someone calling you racist. Its ridiculous. 
    And There were plenty of issues that they could not agree with on Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush Reprise. I would agree it didn't seem as extreme back then, but every 4 years it seems like it got worse than the previous 4.
    Thats just my opinion, I can't prove the motivation wasn't racially motivated just like you can't prove it was I guess.
    lol Obama was scrutinized about his birthplace for the whole time he was president.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,312
    mace1229 said:
    my2hands said:
    Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks? 

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897

    To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
    With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.
    Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?
    We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
    lol Obama was scrutinized about his birthplace for the whole time he was president..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    Both things can be true without it being cause and effect.  The Republicans did not want to give him a political victory,  but that's generally true today.  Many of the criticisms of him,  Michelle,  etc., were rooted in or intended to exploit racism in this country.  
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,017
    edited April 2019
    mace1229 said:
    my2hands said:
    Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks? 

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897

    To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
    With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.
    Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?
    We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
    lol Obama was scrutinized about his birthplace for the whole time he was president..
    And democrats came up with 100 reasons why Trump wasn't qualified as well. I don't think they protested against Trump because he was white, do you? But if you protest against Obama it can only be because he was black?
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,017
    tbergs said:
    I see some are willing to accept revisionist history 'round these parts or do whatever it takes to make "both sides" true. Carry on. Anyone who doesn't agree is just some crazy liberal who can't get over it. Ok, whatever you say. Let's just let it all slide. The justice system is a joke and much like political outcomes, varies dependent on your socio-economic class, race, gender and age (to some extent). Does anybody really question whether a rich white dude and Joe-blow citizen get the same treatment in the legal system? What's ironic, is that we get a case like Jussie Smollet out there, which is shady as hell, and now it's a both side situation? I think there should be a flow chart because Smollet checks boxes on both sides. Charges for white collar crime is non-existent until you get someone like Mueller spending almost 2 years bringing down a bunch of privileged assholes. Newsflash, Don is a rich privileged asshole who happens to be the most powerful person in our country right now. Do you really need to read a 400 page report to figure out that he has cheated, lied and swindled his entire life, including as president. Why does anyone want someone like this as president? That is the question to be asking, not whether Obama was discriminated against because of his race. Why the fuck is Trump getting a pass for any reason? It's unbelievable. A fucking broken clock is correct twice a day as well, doesn't mean I'm going to rely on it to determine my day.

    And then there's this, I work at a college in MN and someone literally came to class today wearing this.

    What the fuck?! Why? Where does one even find shit like this?
    A lot of that is true. But I Just get tired of hearing that Hilary lost because republicans couldn't stand a women president, that Obama couldn't get things done because he was black. So I call it out when I see it. 
    Shirts like that should be banned on college campuses. I'm a little surprised they aren't. Free speech only goes so far.
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