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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited July 2018

    LongestRoad said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    vaggar99 said:

    Good People Don’t Defend A Bad Man

    At times in this life it can be a challenge to figure out who the bad people are, but sometimes they help you.

    Sometimes they do the work for you.

    Sometimes with their every vulgar, bitter word from their mouth, they testify to their personal malignancy and they make it easy to identify them.

    Generally speaking, there are things that good people do and things good people don’t do.

    Good people don’t refer to entire countries as “shitholes”—most notably countries that have given birth to our very humanity; ones that for hundreds of years have been colonized and poached and mined of their riches by powerful white men; countries whose people have been enslaved and sold and forced to come and build your country. 

    Good people by any measurement we might use—simply don’t say such things.

    Of course good people also don’t say they could grab women by the genitalia, either.
    They don’t defend racists and nazis and call them “fine people,” days after murdering a young girl and terrorizing an American city.
    They don’t brag about their penis size during debates, or suggest protestors at campaign rallies should be roughed up, or crack jokes about captured war heroes, or make fun of the physically disabled.
    They don’t.

    Good people don’t tweet anti-Muslim rhetoric in the moments immediately following a bombing in order to bolster a position.
    They don’t leave American territories filled with brown skinned people without power for months upon months, after publicly ridiculing their public servants and questioning their people’s resolve.
    They don’t pull children from the arms of their parents and place them in cages and detention centers.
    They don’t erase protections for the water and the air, for the elderly, the terminally ill, the LGBTQ.
    They don’t take away healthcare from the sick and the poor without an alternative.
    They don’t gouge the working poor and shelter the wealthy.
    They don’t abuse their unrivaled platform to Twitter-bait world leaders and to taunt private citizens.
    Good people don’t prey upon the vulnerable, they don’t leverage their power to bully dissenters, and they don’t campaign for sexual predators.

    But this President is not a good human being, and there’s simply no way around this truth.

    He is the ugliest personification of the Ugly American, which is why, as long as he is here and as long as he represents this nation, we will be a fractured mess and a global embarrassment. He will be the ever lowering bar of our legacy in the world.

    And what is painfully obvious in these moments, isn’t simply that the person alleging to lead this country is a terrible human being—it is that anyone left still defending him, applauding him, justifying him, amening him, probably is too.

    At this point, the only reason left to support this President, is that he reflects your hateful heart; he shares your contempt of people of color, your hostility toward outsiders, your ignorant bigotry, your feeling of supremacy.

    A white President calling countries filled with people of color shitholes, is so far beyond the pale, so beneath decency, and so blatantly racist that it shouldn’t merit conversation. It should be universally condemned. Humanity should be in agreement in abhorring it.

    And yet today (like so many other seemingly rock bottom days in the past twelve months) they will be out there: white people claiming to be good people and Christian people, who will make excuses for him or debate his motives or diminish the damage. 

    They will dig their heels in to explain away or to defend, what at the end of the day is simply a bad human being saying the things that bad human beings say because their hearts harbor very bad things.

    No, good people don’t call countries filled with beautiful, creative, loving men and women shitholes or do most of the horrible things he does.

    And good people don’t defend people who do.

    You’re going to have to make a choice here.

    https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/01/12/good-people-dont-defend-bad-man/
    Made me sad and angry reading this.
    How low have people stooped that they voted and continue to support this germ.
    I personally have cut someone off from my life because of his support for Trump.
    I have too. I had a friend - a Canadian non-white person no less - who lost his mind and basically became a Trump troll for some reason. I tried to deal with it for a while, but he just got worse and worse, started digging his heels in, and even started getting in arguments with stangers in bars about it and shit. I finally just had to cut him off. Blocked him on facebook, got rid of his contact info. He basically just made the decision to be "the asshole". I think he gets off on it. I don't need that kind of idiocy in my life.
    so your "friend" didn't agree with people at a bar and they were arguing with him. take your time and read that over. 
    Your "friend doesn't agree with your politics as much as you don't agree with his but he didn't unfriend you. you unfriended him. 
    Like I always say, liberals want everyone to be free to believe whatever they want as long as you believe exactly as they believe. 
    I think your "friend" is lucky.

    No, that isn't how it was at all. HE was literally acting like an aggressive weirdo with strangers, going out of his way to start shit, and saying insane stuff. I finally unfriended him, after a very long stretch of tolerance, because he was literally trolling me and a ton of other people. He went totally off the rails - his best friends are all very concerned about him, and embarrassed by his behaviour. My entire family is conservative - I know how to handle people who simply have different viewpoints. Stop making shit up inside your head. You don't know what you're talking about. Don't be such a dick in response to someone talking about how their friend lost it.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Fuck Tom Brady, he just got beat by a backup

    Go Eagles!
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,193
    my2hands said:
    Fuck Tom Brady, he just got beat by a backup

    Go Eagles!
    Defense let him down.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Fuck Tom Brady, he just got beat by a backup

    Go Eagles!
    Defense let him down.
    No man is an island. 

    Thread integrity - we wish Trump was alone on an island.  With no wifi. 
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Fuck Tom Brady, he just got beat by a backup

    Go Eagles!
    Defense let him down.
    his time is done.   and Donald's is coming soon too.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    pjhawks said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Fuck Tom Brady, he just got beat by a backup

    Go Eagles!
    Defense let him down.
    his time is done.   and Donald's is coming soon too.
    Tom's time < Donald's time?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,193
    pjhawks said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Fuck Tom Brady, he just got beat by a backup

    Go Eagles!
    Defense let him down.
    his time is done.   and Donald's is coming soon too.
    Pats make the playoffs at 11-5, play in the AFC Championship. Again. Donny's before Tommy's.
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    I don't completely agree with one thing they said...there are many really good and great journalists out there trying to verify the truth of all that is going on. This was fascinating.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/all-the-presidents-men-twitter-msnbc_us_5b5ecda0e4b0b15aba9a6ba2


    Falling down,...not staying down
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    again  Leave Tom Brady out of it.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    and let me know when Cincinnati gets a pro basketball, football, or hockey franchise.
    The REDS.  figures.
    SAD
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059


    It's called WINNING.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    You know after 745 pages I think we can all agree on something...

    Tom Brady is a whiny, cheating sack of poop.  Right Tiki?
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Tommy's gonna playing til he's 46.  Donnie's waist is a 46.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,554
    Jason P said:
    So Trump wanted to set Ivanka up with Tom Brady. Haha

    Make New England Great Again!
    Jared better call Mueller soon to make a deal. He’s about to get thrown under the bus. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Go Beavers said:
    Jason P said:
    So Trump wanted to set Ivanka up with Tom Brady. Haha

    Make New England Great Again!
    Jared better call Mueller soon to make a deal. He’s about to get thrown under the bus. 
    Man this might work out well fro trump.  Donny and Eric to Jail.  Jared to jail.  Leaves him home alone with Ivanka.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    After 745 pages we can all agree on something...Donnie shouldn't be mentioning anything that has to do with the National Football League, especially the GOAT, Tom Effking Brady.




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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Tiki said:
    After 745 pages we can all agree on something...Donnie shouldn't be mentioning anything that has to do with the National Football League, especially the GOAT, Tom Effking Brady.




    I know what the "A" stands for.....a-hole.  What's the rest?  And don't try to tell me greatest of all time. ;)
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    HATERADE

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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    I swear-ta-god I forgot about the Bengals.  I forgot they existed.   

    my bad
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