It isn’t an “if” anymore. It hasn’t been for a long time. The facts clearly support it. The only question that remains is whether something will be done about it. Patience comes to those who wait.
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Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,501
Trump continues to shoot himself in the foot. Rasmussen has been 45 and below for over 2 weeks now too
Almost Half Of Voters Are Dead Set Against Voting For Trump
Obama’s opposition was never this firm in 2012.
Poll(s) of the week
With the 2020 election cycle revving into full gear, pollsters are asking voters whether they plan to vote for President Trump. In a Washington Post/ABC News survey, respondents were asked if they would definitely vote for the president, consider voting for him or definitely not vote for him — and 56 percent said they would definitely not vote for him. Morning Consult poseda slightly different form of this question, asking voters if they’d definitely or probably vote for Trump, or if they’d definitely or probably vote for someone else. Eight percent said they would probably vote for someone else, but 47 percent said they would definitely vote for someone else. In total, that’s 55 percent of respondents who seemed unlikely to vote for Trump.
All told, this isn’t that different from the number of Americans who were planning not to back then-President Barack Obama in the early stages of his re-election bid: 51 percent said they “definitely” or “probably” would not vote for the incumbent, according to one poll conducted at a similar point in the 2012 cycle. But there is a key difference: The share of voters who said they would “definitely” oppose Trump is much higher than it ever was for Obama. In fact, the average share of voters who said they would “definitely” oppose Trump is roughly 10 points higher than it was for Obama more than 600 days out from the election, which is where we are now.1
Now, the share of Americans who said they definitely wouldn’t vote for Obama did increase as the election got closer, but it only it only hit 40 percent or higher in two polls in our data set, which runs through about 250 days before the election.2 With Trump, on the other hand, close to 50 percent of Americans have already said they definitely wouldn’t vote for him even though we’re still more than 600 days away from the election. Yes, the combined percentage of Americans who said they definitely wouldn’t and probably wouldn’t vote for Obama cracked 50 percent on several occasions — though Obama won 51 percent of the popular vote in 2012, so he probably changed at least a few minds before Election Day — but the percentage who said they definitely wouldn’t vote for Obama was never higher than 42 percent in a single poll, whereas Trump’s number is currently about 48 percent, based on an average of the three most recent polls. Trump also has about half as many voters in the more persuadable “probably” camp, which suggests he has less wiggle room than Obama did.
With combined opposition in the mid-50s, including more voters seemingly dead set against him than felt the same about Obama, Trump may have a lower ceiling of potential support than Obama did in 2012. Trump only narrowly won in 2016 while losing the popular vote, so once again he may have little room for error.
Trump approval
According to FiveThirtyEight’s presidential approval tracker, 39.5 percent of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing as president, while 55.9 percent disapprove (for a net approval rating of -16.4 points). That’s essentially the same as a week ago, when 39.5 percent of Americans approved of the president and 55.8 percent disapproved (a net approval rating of -16.3 points). Trump’s net approval rating has dropped significantly from a month ago, when it was -11.9 (approval rating of 41.5 percent, disapproval rating of 53.4 percent).
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US and Russia's relationship is getting distorted.
Russia set to begin work on new hypersonic missiles and not engage in disarmament talks with the US.
There's zero respect from Russia towards the US. I can almost guarantee they laugh daily at Trump and the US. Trump has essentially become Putin's Reek.
US and Russia's relationship is getting distorted.
Russia set to begin work on new hypersonic missiles and not engage in disarmament talks with the US.
There's zero respect from Russia towards the US. I can almost guarantee they laugh daily at Trump and the US. Trump has essentially become Putin's Reek.
US and Russia's relationship is getting distorted.
Russia set to begin work on new hypersonic missiles and not engage in disarmament talks with the US.
There's zero respect from Russia towards the US. I can almost guarantee they laugh daily at Trump and the US. Trump has essentially become Putin's Reek.
You ain't never jugged a spring? Ya tak gallon jugs to the spring and fill up on clean drinkin water, take it on home. At the spring we got a holleroak we climb inside and burn one from time to time.
You ain't never jugged a spring? Ya tak gallon jugs to the spring and fill up on clean drinkin water, take it on home. At the spring we got a holleroak we climb inside and burn one from time to time.
You ain't never jugged a spring? Ya tak gallon jugs to the spring and fill up on clean drinkin water, take it on home. At the spring we got a holleroak we climb inside and burn one from time to time.
You’re weird lol
Hard to argue that one.
I've been trying to avoid arguing on the internet so I usually only post when I'm too ripped to get serious.
The clean spring and the smoking inside the tree is real though.
You ain't never jugged a spring? Ya tak gallon jugs to the spring and fill up on clean drinkin water, take it on home. At the spring we got a holleroak we climb inside and burn one from time to time.
You’re weird lol
Hard to argue that one.
I've been trying to avoid arguing on the internet so I usually only post when I'm too ripped to get serious.
The clean spring and the smoking inside the tree is real though.
You ain't never jugged a spring? Ya tak gallon jugs to the spring and fill up on clean drinkin water, take it on home. At the spring we got a holleroak we climb inside and burn one from time to time.
You’re weird lol
Hard to argue that one.
I've been trying to avoid arguing on the internet so I usually only post when I'm too ripped to get serious.
The clean spring and the smoking inside the tree is real though.
There’s nothing like fresh spring water and a cool, natural place to burn one. Never been inside a tree but we did have the “bear cave” along the bank of a river where I was growing up. We also had the bog and a bamboo grove. Fort building was a great past time.
You ain't never jugged a spring? Ya tak gallon jugs to the spring and fill up on clean drinkin water, take it on home. At the spring we got a holleroak we climb inside and burn one from time to time.
You’re weird lol
Hard to argue that one.
I've been trying to avoid arguing on the internet so I usually only post when I'm too ripped to get serious.
The clean spring and the smoking inside the tree is real though.
There’s nothing like fresh spring water and a cool, natural place to burn one. Never been inside a tree but we did have the “bear cave” along the bank of a river where I was growing up. We also had the bog and a bamboo grove. Fort building was a great past time.
Built a lot of forts in my time. Some were pretty good. Had a few crappers too. Spent many a summer day in those forts. Me and my friends made our way back from the hills when we 'figured' it might be time for dinner- sometimes guessing good and sometimes not.
Times were pretty simple back then. I regret not being able to provide the same (or similar) experience for my son. The opportunity to do so wasn't really there. I dunno. Maybe the one he had was better? I can't tell if these days are better or worse.
You ain't never jugged a spring? Ya tak gallon jugs to the spring and fill up on clean drinkin water, take it on home. At the spring we got a holleroak we climb inside and burn one from time to time.
You’re weird lol
Hard to argue that one.
I've been trying to avoid arguing on the internet so I usually only post when I'm too ripped to get serious.
The clean spring and the smoking inside the tree is real though.
There’s nothing like fresh spring water and a cool, natural place to burn one. Never been inside a tree but we did have the “bear cave” along the bank of a river where I was growing up. We also had the bog and a bamboo grove. Fort building was a great past time.
Built a lot of forts in my time. Some were pretty good. Had a few crappers too. Spent many a summer day in those forts. Me and my friends made our way back from the hills when we 'figured' it might be time for dinner- sometimes guessing good and sometimes not.
Times were pretty simple back then. I regret not being able to provide the same (or similar) experience for my son. The opportunity to do so wasn't really there. I dunno. Maybe the one he had was better? I can't tell if these days are better or worse.
Spending all day out in the woods and fields and not coming home until the street lights came on, those days for the majority of kids is long gone.
You ain't never jugged a spring? Ya tak gallon jugs to the spring and fill up on clean drinkin water, take it on home. At the spring we got a holleroak we climb inside and burn one from time to time.
You’re weird lol
Hard to argue that one.
I've been trying to avoid arguing on the internet so I usually only post when I'm too ripped to get serious.
The clean spring and the smoking inside the tree is real though.
You ain't never jugged a spring? Ya tak gallon jugs to the spring and fill up on clean drinkin water, take it on home. At the spring we got a holleroak we climb inside and burn one from time to time.
You’re weird lol
Hard to argue that one.
I've been trying to avoid arguing on the internet so I usually only post when I'm too ripped to get serious.
The clean spring and the smoking inside the tree is real though.
You ain't never jugged a spring? Ya tak gallon jugs to the spring and fill up on clean drinkin water, take it on home. At the spring we got a holleroak we climb inside and burn one from time to time.
You’re weird lol
Hard to argue that one.
I've been trying to avoid arguing on the internet so I usually only post when I'm too ripped to get serious.
The clean spring and the smoking inside the tree is real though.
There’s nothing like fresh spring water and a cool, natural place to burn one. Never been inside a tree but we did have the “bear cave” along the bank of a river where I was growing up. We also had the bog and a bamboo grove. Fort building was a great past time.
Built a lot of forts in my time. Some were pretty good. Had a few crappers too. Spent many a summer day in those forts. Me and my friends made our way back from the hills when we 'figured' it might be time for dinner- sometimes guessing good and sometimes not.
Times were pretty simple back then. I regret not being able to provide the same (or similar) experience for my son. The opportunity to do so wasn't really there. I dunno. Maybe the one he had was better? I can't tell if these days are better or worse.
Spending all day out in the woods and fields and not coming home until the street lights came on, those days for the majority of kids is long gone.
Henceforth my hesitation to accept the 24 hour fear factory society and media have become... the world is safer than ever but everyone is hunkered down afraid of the boogeyman
You ain't never jugged a spring? Ya tak gallon jugs to the spring and fill up on clean drinkin water, take it on home. At the spring we got a holleroak we climb inside and burn one from time to time.
You’re weird lol
Hard to argue that one.
I've been trying to avoid arguing on the internet so I usually only post when I'm too ripped to get serious.
The clean spring and the smoking inside the tree is real though.
Made it to the spring had a smoke in a tree...
Awesome.
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mickeyrat
up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,381
You ain't never jugged a spring? Ya tak gallon jugs to the spring and fill up on clean drinkin water, take it on home. At the spring we got a holleroak we climb inside and burn one from time to time.
You’re weird lol
no shit. out in the woods who are you hiding from you need to step into a hollow tree to spark a fatty.
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Almost Half Of Voters Are Dead Set Against Voting For Trump
Obama’s opposition was never this firm in 2012.
Poll(s) of the week
With the 2020 election cycle revving into full gear, pollsters are asking voters whether they plan to vote for President Trump. In a Washington Post/ABC News survey, respondents were asked if they would definitely vote for the president, consider voting for him or definitely not vote for him — and 56 percent said they would definitely not vote for him. Morning Consult poseda slightly different form of this question, asking voters if they’d definitely or probably vote for Trump, or if they’d definitely or probably vote for someone else. Eight percent said they would probably vote for someone else, but 47 percent said they would definitely vote for someone else. In total, that’s 55 percent of respondents who seemed unlikely to vote for Trump.
All told, this isn’t that different from the number of Americans who were planning not to back then-President Barack Obama in the early stages of his re-election bid: 51 percent said they “definitely” or “probably” would not vote for the incumbent, according to one poll conducted at a similar point in the 2012 cycle. But there is a key difference: The share of voters who said they would “definitely” oppose Trump is much higher than it ever was for Obama. In fact, the average share of voters who said they would “definitely” oppose Trump is roughly 10 points higher than it was for Obama more than 600 days out from the election, which is where we are now.1
Now, the share of Americans who said they definitely wouldn’t vote for Obama did increase as the election got closer, but it only it only hit 40 percent or higher in two polls in our data set, which runs through about 250 days before the election.2 With Trump, on the other hand, close to 50 percent of Americans have already said they definitely wouldn’t vote for him even though we’re still more than 600 days away from the election. Yes, the combined percentage of Americans who said they definitely wouldn’t and probably wouldn’t vote for Obama cracked 50 percent on several occasions — though Obama won 51 percent of the popular vote in 2012, so he probably changed at least a few minds before Election Day — but the percentage who said they definitely wouldn’t vote for Obama was never higher than 42 percent in a single poll, whereas Trump’s number is currently about 48 percent, based on an average of the three most recent polls. Trump also has about half as many voters in the more persuadable “probably” camp, which suggests he has less wiggle room than Obama did.
With combined opposition in the mid-50s, including more voters seemingly dead set against him than felt the same about Obama, Trump may have a lower ceiling of potential support than Obama did in 2012. Trump only narrowly won in 2016 while losing the popular vote, so once again he may have little room for error.
Trump approval
According to FiveThirtyEight’s presidential approval tracker, 39.5 percent of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing as president, while 55.9 percent disapprove (for a net approval rating of -16.4 points). That’s essentially the same as a week ago, when 39.5 percent of Americans approved of the president and 55.8 percent disapproved (a net approval rating of -16.3 points). Trump’s net approval rating has dropped significantly from a month ago, when it was -11.9 (approval rating of 41.5 percent, disapproval rating of 53.4 percent).
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
He is middle aged- those 'moobs' of his could be very impressive!
Russia set to begin work on new hypersonic missiles and not engage in disarmament talks with the US.
There's zero respect from Russia towards the US. I can almost guarantee they laugh daily at Trump and the US. Trump has essentially become Putin's Reek.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/putin-russia-suspends-inf-nuclear-deal-with-us/ar-BBT4AOJ?ocid=spartanntp
Ya tak gallon jugs to the spring and fill up on clean drinkin water, take it on home.
At the spring we got a holleroak we climb inside and burn one from time to time.
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1091766734959398912?s=21
I've been trying to avoid arguing on the internet so I usually only post when I'm too ripped to get serious.
The clean spring and the smoking inside the tree is real though.
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Built a lot of forts in my time. Some were pretty good. Had a few crappers too. Spent many a summer day in those forts. Me and my friends made our way back from the hills when we 'figured' it might be time for dinner- sometimes guessing good and sometimes not.
Times were pretty simple back then. I regret not being able to provide the same (or similar) experience for my son. The opportunity to do so wasn't really there. I dunno. Maybe the one he had was better? I can't tell if these days are better or worse.
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14