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  • LongestRoad
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    PJ_Soul said:
    LongestRoad said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    LongestRoad said:
    mrussel1 said:
    DPrival78 said:
    The idea of a “deep state” is nothing new.  Just like “fake news” is nothing new. 

    We had prime examples of both with, say, the Iraq war.  The reasons were all made up bullshit, and were parroted by the mainstream media who just played along. 

    I think its interesting that the anti-war crew from the bush years basically disappeared around 2009, and now cite the mainstream media regularly to back their criticisms of the current admin. 
    The Iraq war wasn't perpetuated by career service people,  it was done by the neo conservative political appointees  that controlled the White House.  They pressured the career people in the CIA to find validating evidence.  Iraq is the precise inverse of what you're referring to.  Regarding the press. You won't find me defending them for not asking too many questions.  But if you don't really remember the jingoism that gripped the US post 9-11, just Google the Dixie Chicks. 
    It should have been Afghanistan that was invaded. The media loves to play along as long as it's going to get them higher ratings
    Good old George Bush worst president ever needed to keep his buddy Osama and family safe.  the attention was shifted to Iraq which allowed extremists like ISIS to grow once we left the mess under the Obama administration. We need to be over there now to make sure the extremists don't expand again. Extremist is way to nice of a word used to describe the demons that terrorized the middle east and more. 


    Speaking of terrorists, 

    So i'm wondering how Maxine Waters is liking the tables being turned on her??

    When you insite harrassment and violence, it comes back to bite you.  And yeah what she was saying was inciting violence even if you don't want to admit it because she's a liberal, but all you need is one nut job to take it to the extreme. 

    Either everyone is allowed or the owner gets to choose. What's it gonna be? Personally, I think everyone should be able to go about their day without getting harrassed or denied service as long as there is no criminal intent or harm to the person or others.
    "speaking of terrorists"....and you segue to Maxine Waters???

    get serious. 
    You mean because she's a liberal she's exempt from that status even though she clearly was inciting violence to further her cause. 
    If those words she spoke came from a republicans mouth or any other non liberal view person, you all would have had a thread a mile long bashing them and you know it. You need to get serious. 
    What is your news source?? I'm curious to know how you reached this outrageous conclusion about Maxine Waters. It is a complete lie that she incited violence. If you really know what she said and still think that's what she did, then you don't understand what inciting violence means, and you very clearly do not know what a terrorist is if you've also stuck that label on her. I have to assume you're gobbling up alt-right media sources like candy if you really believe what you're saying.
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/25/politics/maxine-waters-trump-officials/index.html

    Read and re read her words. 
  • The Juggler
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The Juggler said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    LongestRoad said:
    mrussel1 said:
    DPrival78 said:
    The idea of a “deep state” is nothing new.  Just like “fake news” is nothing new. 

    We had prime examples of both with, say, the Iraq war.  The reasons were all made up bullshit, and were parroted by the mainstream media who just played along. 

    I think its interesting that the anti-war crew from the bush years basically disappeared around 2009, and now cite the mainstream media regularly to back their criticisms of the current admin. 
    The Iraq war wasn't perpetuated by career service people,  it was done by the neo conservative political appointees  that controlled the White House.  They pressured the career people in the CIA to find validating evidence.  Iraq is the precise inverse of what you're referring to.  Regarding the press. You won't find me defending them for not asking too many questions.  But if you don't really remember the jingoism that gripped the US post 9-11, just Google the Dixie Chicks. 
    It should have been Afghanistan that was invaded. The media loves to play along as long as it's going to get them higher ratings
    Good old George Bush worst president ever needed to keep his buddy Osama and family safe.  the attention was shifted to Iraq which allowed extremists like ISIS to grow once we left the mess under the Obama administration. We need to be over there now to make sure the extremists don't expand again. Extremist is way to nice of a word used to describe the demons that terrorized the middle east and more. 


    Speaking of terrorists, 

    So i'm wondering how Maxine Waters is liking the tables being turned on her??

    When you insite harrassment and violence, it comes back to bite you.  And yeah what she was saying was inciting violence even if you don't want to admit it because she's a liberal, but all you need is one nut job to take it to the extreme. 

    Either everyone is allowed or the owner gets to choose. What's it gonna be? Personally, I think everyone should be able to go about their day without getting harrassed or denied service as long as there is no criminal intent or harm to the person or others.
    "speaking of terrorists"....and you segue to Maxine Waters???

    get serious. 

    Apparently this guy is a big Laura Loomer fan.


    Laura Loomer is garbage.

    holy crap. I had never heard of her. I just googled her. Garbage is a nice term. 


    Scroll through her twitter timeline when you get the chance. Talk about warm holes.

    You'll need to take a nice hot shower when you're done. Her and her other alt right troll buddies are disgusting people.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,126
    edited June 2018
    LongestRoad said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    LongestRoad said:
    mrussel1 said:
    DPrival78 said:
    The idea of a “deep state” is nothing new.  Just like “fake news” is nothing new. 

    We had prime examples of both with, say, the Iraq war.  The reasons were all made up bullshit, and were parroted by the mainstream media who just played along. 

    I think its interesting that the anti-war crew from the bush years basically disappeared around 2009, and now cite the mainstream media regularly to back their criticisms of the current admin. 
    The Iraq war wasn't perpetuated by career service people,  it was done by the neo conservative political appointees  that controlled the White House.  They pressured the career people in the CIA to find validating evidence.  Iraq is the precise inverse of what you're referring to.  Regarding the press. You won't find me defending them for not asking too many questions.  But if you don't really remember the jingoism that gripped the US post 9-11, just Google the Dixie Chicks. 
    It should have been Afghanistan that was invaded. The media loves to play along as long as it's going to get them higher ratings
    Good old George Bush worst president ever needed to keep his buddy Osama and family safe.  the attention was shifted to Iraq which allowed extremists like ISIS to grow once we left the mess under the Obama administration. We need to be over there now to make sure the extremists don't expand again. Extremist is way to nice of a word used to describe the demons that terrorized the middle east and more. 


    Speaking of terrorists, 

    So i'm wondering how Maxine Waters is liking the tables being turned on her??

    When you insite harrassment and violence, it comes back to bite you.  And yeah what she was saying was inciting violence even if you don't want to admit it because she's a liberal, but all you need is one nut job to take it to the extreme. 

    Either everyone is allowed or the owner gets to choose. What's it gonna be? Personally, I think everyone should be able to go about their day without getting harrassed or denied service as long as there is no criminal intent or harm to the person or others.
    "speaking of terrorists"....and you segue to Maxine Waters???

    get serious. 
    You mean because she's a liberal she's exempt from that status even though she clearly was inciting violence to further her cause. 
    If those words she spoke came from a republicans mouth or any other non liberal view person, you all would have had a thread a mile long bashing them and you know it. You need to get serious. 
    What exactly did Maxine Waters say that “incites” violence? And by the way, conservatives have been saying those things and worse for 30 years. Where you been bunky? Oh, I forgot, it was a liberal who coined the term, “feminazi.” Oh, the outrage.or should I say fauxrage. Bunch of snowflakes.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    LongestRoad said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    LongestRoad said:
    mrussel1 said:
    DPrival78 said:
    The idea of a “deep state” is nothing new.  Just like “fake news” is nothing new. 

    We had prime examples of both with, say, the Iraq war.  The reasons were all made up bullshit, and were parroted by the mainstream media who just played along. 

    I think its interesting that the anti-war crew from the bush years basically disappeared around 2009, and now cite the mainstream media regularly to back their criticisms of the current admin. 
    The Iraq war wasn't perpetuated by career service people,  it was done by the neo conservative political appointees  that controlled the White House.  They pressured the career people in the CIA to find validating evidence.  Iraq is the precise inverse of what you're referring to.  Regarding the press. You won't find me defending them for not asking too many questions.  But if you don't really remember the jingoism that gripped the US post 9-11, just Google the Dixie Chicks. 
    It should have been Afghanistan that was invaded. The media loves to play along as long as it's going to get them higher ratings
    Good old George Bush worst president ever needed to keep his buddy Osama and family safe.  the attention was shifted to Iraq which allowed extremists like ISIS to grow once we left the mess under the Obama administration. We need to be over there now to make sure the extremists don't expand again. Extremist is way to nice of a word used to describe the demons that terrorized the middle east and more. 


    Speaking of terrorists, 

    So i'm wondering how Maxine Waters is liking the tables being turned on her??

    When you insite harrassment and violence, it comes back to bite you.  And yeah what she was saying was inciting violence even if you don't want to admit it because she's a liberal, but all you need is one nut job to take it to the extreme. 

    Either everyone is allowed or the owner gets to choose. What's it gonna be? Personally, I think everyone should be able to go about their day without getting harrassed or denied service as long as there is no criminal intent or harm to the person or others.
    "speaking of terrorists"....and you segue to Maxine Waters???

    get serious. 
    You mean because she's a liberal she's exempt from that status even though she clearly was inciting violence to further her cause. 
    If those words she spoke came from a republicans mouth or any other non liberal view person, you all would have had a thread a mile long bashing them and you know it. You need to get serious. 
    You mean the guy who said these things?:
    “I’d like to punch him in the face” 

    Trump said this in front of a crowd of supporters, after a protester was removed from one of his rallies in Las Vegas on 23 February 2016.

    “Maybe he should have been roughed up” 

    Trump said this on Fox and Friends on 22 November 2015, in reference to Black Lives Matter protester Mercutio Southall Jr., who was ejected from a Trump rally in Birmingham, Alabama a day earlier. Video footage appears to show Trump supporters jostling, kicking and punching Southall, prompting questions from the Fox and Friends about the ‘roughing up’ of the protester. 

    “You know, part of the problem, and part of the reason it takes so long, is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore, right? And they’re being politically correct the way they take them out, so it takes a little bit longer. And honestly, protesters, they realize it. They realize that there are no consequences to protesting anymore. There used to be consequences, there are none anymore.”

    “I don’t know if I’ll do the fighting myself or if other people will”
    Trump said this on 11 August 2015, when asked at a press conference in Birch Run, Michigan whether he would ever yield the stage to a protester at one of his events. 

    The audience hit back. That’s what we need a little bit more of”

    Trump said this at a press conference in Palm Beach, Florida on 11 March 2016. He was referring to the Las Vegas incident weeks earlier, after which he mused that he would like to have punched a protester in the face.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    And combine all that with him saying the news media is the enemy of the American people. 

    But the left needs to be civil. Sure
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    edited June 2018
    LongestRoad said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    LongestRoad said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    LongestRoad said:
    mrussel1 said:
    DPrival78 said:
    The idea of a “deep state” is nothing new.  Just like “fake news” is nothing new. 

    We had prime examples of both with, say, the Iraq war.  The reasons were all made up bullshit, and were parroted by the mainstream media who just played along. 

    I think its interesting that the anti-war crew from the bush years basically disappeared around 2009, and now cite the mainstream media regularly to back their criticisms of the current admin. 
    The Iraq war wasn't perpetuated by career service people,  it was done by the neo conservative political appointees  that controlled the White House.  They pressured the career people in the CIA to find validating evidence.  Iraq is the precise inverse of what you're referring to.  Regarding the press. You won't find me defending them for not asking too many questions.  But if you don't really remember the jingoism that gripped the US post 9-11, just Google the Dixie Chicks. 
    It should have been Afghanistan that was invaded. The media loves to play along as long as it's going to get them higher ratings
    Good old George Bush worst president ever needed to keep his buddy Osama and family safe.  the attention was shifted to Iraq which allowed extremists like ISIS to grow once we left the mess under the Obama administration. We need to be over there now to make sure the extremists don't expand again. Extremist is way to nice of a word used to describe the demons that terrorized the middle east and more. 


    Speaking of terrorists, 

    So i'm wondering how Maxine Waters is liking the tables being turned on her??

    When you insite harrassment and violence, it comes back to bite you.  And yeah what she was saying was inciting violence even if you don't want to admit it because she's a liberal, but all you need is one nut job to take it to the extreme. 

    Either everyone is allowed or the owner gets to choose. What's it gonna be? Personally, I think everyone should be able to go about their day without getting harrassed or denied service as long as there is no criminal intent or harm to the person or others.
    "speaking of terrorists"....and you segue to Maxine Waters???

    get serious. 
    You mean because she's a liberal she's exempt from that status even though she clearly was inciting violence to further her cause. 
    If those words she spoke came from a republicans mouth or any other non liberal view person, you all would have had a thread a mile long bashing them and you know it. You need to get serious. 
    What is your news source?? I'm curious to know how you reached this outrageous conclusion about Maxine Waters. It is a complete lie that she incited violence. If you really know what she said and still think that's what she did, then you don't understand what inciting violence means, and you very clearly do not know what a terrorist is if you've also stuck that label on her. I have to assume you're gobbling up alt-right media sources like candy if you really believe what you're saying.
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/25/politics/maxine-waters-trump-officials/index.html

    Read and re read her words. 
    Did you really think I didn't already know exactly what she said. There is literally not a single word she said that suggested violence, and certainly not anything that could lead you to call her a terrorist. I understand that some are playing dumb when it comes to the meaning of "pushing back", but I think just about everyone with an IQ over 65 at least secretly understands that was not a comment about violence. I suggest that you stop reading Trump's tweets about things to form any opinions.
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  • Bentleyspop
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    She has a point....


  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,640
    Regarding the Annapolis shooter....

    “So what happened this past week?” Hutson asked. “On June 25, Trump – at his South Carolina rally – pointed to members of the media, and called them the enemy of the people.  This is a phrase that throughout history has been used by autocrats to incite violence,” from ancient Rome to the French Revolution to Nazi Germany. 
  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    Blame Trump for anything and everything.  

    This lunatic had no issues before.  Trump essentially pulled the trigger!

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    DPrival78 said:
    Blame Trump for anything and everything.  

    This lunatic had no issues before.  Trump essentially pulled the trigger!


    The shift in mentality where the fringe right is expressing itself loudly, proudly and in various ways has nothing to do with McDonald Trump? Is this what you are saying?
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    DPrival78 said:
    Blame Trump for anything and everything.  

    This lunatic had no issues before.  Trump essentially pulled the trigger!

    if he just would stop saying totally fucked things, then he will not blamed for such things.  its very simple. 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    DPrival78 said:
    Blame Trump for anything and everything.  

    This lunatic had no issues before.  Trump essentially pulled the trigger!

    trump has no accountability for what he says and does and your stance such as this perpetuates it. He’s not King, he’s elected. 
  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    DPrival78 said:
    Blame Trump for anything and everything.  

    This lunatic had no issues before.  Trump essentially pulled the trigger!


    The shift in mentality where the fringe right is expressing itself loudly, proudly and in various ways has nothing to do with McDonald Trump? Is this what you are saying?
    I’m saying blaming the guy for everything is ridiculous. 

    People on all fringes are expressing themselves loudly and proudly, and none of them are responsible for this long-time nut killing 5 innocent people
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  • oftenreading
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    DPrival78 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    DPrival78 said:
    Blame Trump for anything and everything.  

    This lunatic had no issues before.  Trump essentially pulled the trigger!


    The shift in mentality where the fringe right is expressing itself loudly, proudly and in various ways has nothing to do with McDonald Trump? Is this what you are saying?
    I’m saying blaming the guy for everything is ridiculous. 

    People on all fringes are expressing themselves loudly and proudly, and none of them are responsible for this long-time nut killing 5 innocent people
    The rest of them aren’t president 
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    DPrival78 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    DPrival78 said:
    Blame Trump for anything and everything.  

    This lunatic had no issues before.  Trump essentially pulled the trigger!


    The shift in mentality where the fringe right is expressing itself loudly, proudly and in various ways has nothing to do with McDonald Trump? Is this what you are saying?
    I’m saying blaming the guy for everything is ridiculous. 

    People on all fringes are expressing themselves loudly and proudly, and none of them are responsible for this long-time nut killing 5 innocent people

    I'm not so sure about that.

    You might be right, but what also might be right is the fact that emotions are very high as the US is becoming intensely polarized. McDonald has done a fantastic job of creating an 'us vs them' mentality within the US that is stretching boundaries of acceptability- if you don't mind me saying so... particularly on the right side of the equation.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Make up stories that a DC area pizza shop is full of Hillary Clinton connected pedophiles,  and the next thing ya know, the pizza shop has a whacko walk in with a gun

    Imagine that.

    Words, rhetoric, and accusations matter
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    my2hands said:
    Make up stories that a DC area pizza shop is full of Hillary Clinton connected pedophiles,  and the next thing ya know, the pizza shop has a whacko walk in with a gun

    Imagine that.

    Words, rhetoric, and accusations matter

    Good call!

    This situation illustrates the issue perfectly.
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    i had to do a double take here and make sure this wasn't an Onion article
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/29/politics/donald-trump-maryland-shooting/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=fbCNNp&utm_content=2018-06-29T16:54:34&CNNPolitics=fb
  • mfc2006
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    Trump is a pile of shit.
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    it happened in his own backyard this time to the same people he's been vilifying on a daily basis.  i haven't seen the man looking so guilty since the day he met with Obama in the White House.
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