***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,878
    edited May 2017
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    OnWis97 said:
    mfc2006 said:
    It's gonna get messy....

    This thread is still alive?

    Any day now right?
    This.

    I am as unhappy about Trump as most of you, but it's kinda sad to the left on the edge of its seat waiting out an impeachment that's never going to happen; and it's not going to get close enough for him to resign Nixon Style.* Time to move on and focus on 2018.  I almost feel bad for people that are expecting the hammer to drop tomorrow.

    *Though maybe he'll resign because he wants to go back to his old life.
    You see the 2019 thing next to my name?

    Nobody expects an impeachment to happen overnight, except pjfanwillneverleave

    Buckle up buttercup. The road to impeachment is a long and winding one. 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,782
    OnWis97 said:
    It'll be interesting to see a) whether some horrible thing actually makes the GOP (and their most committed followers) actually abandon "party first" and challenge this guy and b) how 2018 goes.  In the Senate, unfortunately, the Democrats are playing defense.  The House could be more interesting.  What will be the impact on those GOP incumbents (that are not in iron-clad districts) that are pro-Trump (or at least not in any meaningful way challenging him)?  Will they feel any heat as their elections approach and try to distance themselves from Trump?  Will they double down and paint themselves as pro-Trump?  And how will they do in the elections...That's where I am on the content populace; I have a hard time believing that anyone will lose their seat simply for not challenging Trump.  I do see the Democrats picking some seats up but certainly not evening it out.  Trump should have his GOP majority in both houses for his entire first term.
    I'm with you. I don't think there's going to be as many seats lost as some are hoping and the democrats may actually lose some Senate seats.

    As for impeachment, I don't see it happening and even if it does, I am more fearful of the chaos that it will create unless there is concrete, indisputable evidence of the offense. A Trump impeachment that doesn't pass the sniff test with his supporters will only be perceived as a witch hunt and could throw this country in to some serious turmoil. This isn't the Nixon era anymore, everyone is inundated with media and news feeds of all types based on what they want to be fed. Trump being who he is, will choose to watch it all burn instead of trying to unite and peacefully resolve any uproar that comes of an impeachment process. I for one, am hoping that the 4 years goes by without him being able to achieve his major goals and then he is voted out.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,063
    trump will take the easiest exit where he can also claim winning combined with financial gain. This is more likely to be resignation where he framed it up as being victimized by the press and "insiders". 
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    trump will take the easiest exit where he can also claim winning combined with financial gain. This is more likely to be resignation where he framed it up as being victimized by the press and "insiders". 
    agree completely. 
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    OnWis97 said:
    mfc2006 said:
    It's gonna get messy....

    This thread is still alive?

    Any day now right?
    This.

    I am as unhappy about Trump as most of you, but it's kinda sad to the left on the edge of its seat waiting out an impeachment that's never going to happen; and it's not going to get close enough for him to resign Nixon Style.* Time to move on and focus on 2018.  I almost feel bad for people that are expecting the hammer to drop tomorrow.

    *Though maybe he'll resign because he wants to go back to his old life.
    You see the 2019 thing next to my name?

    Nobody expects an impeachment to happen overnight, except pjfanwillneverleave

    Buckle up buttercup. The road to impeachment is a long and winding one. 

    Fortunately, Trump seems to be doing everything he can to accelerate the process.
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,095
    "THE FIELD"
    trump will take the easiest exit where he can also claim winning combined with financial gain. This is more likely to be resignation where he framed it up as being victimized by the press and "insiders". 
    That's a very possible scenario; far more likely than impeachment.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,957
    How many folks on here read the declassified report issued by the 4 intelligence agencies that I posted when it came out? Now, how many of you understand "collusion" and "quid pro quo?" Now, how many of you are willing and able to, "follow the money?"
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  • How many folks on here read the declassified report issued by the 4 intelligence agencies that I posted when it came out? Now, how many of you understand "collusion" and "quid pro quo?" Now, how many of you are willing and able to, "follow the money?"

    Whenever I hear quid pro quo I think of the lion king and cartoons.
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
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    How many folks on here read the declassified report issued by the 4 intelligence agencies that I posted when it came out? Now, how many of you understand "collusion" and "quid pro quo?" Now, how many of you are willing and able to, "follow the money?"

    Whenever I hear quid pro quo I think of the lion king and cartoons.
    Silence of the Lambs
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,957
    How many folks on here read the declassified report issued by the 4 intelligence agencies that I posted when it came out? Now, how many of you understand "collusion" and "quid pro quo?" Now, how many of you are willing and able to, "follow the money?"

    Whenever I hear quid pro quo I think of the lion king and cartoons.
    That wasn't the question nor the answer.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,957
    Now why do you suppose 'ol Jared dear boy would want to do that?

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/26/politics/jared-kushner-russian-ambassador-kremlin/index.html
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,957
    edited May 2017
    Any over/under on how many documents, records and phone logs are actually produced? AC must be cranking overtime in the White House, nyet?

    https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN18M2QF
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
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    Any over/under on how many documents, records and phone logs are actually produced? AC must be cranking overtime in the White House, nyet?

    https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN18M2QF
    Like Bush and Cheney 22 million emails will just disappear...
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,957
    Good to see some republicans care. "Watergate proportions." Nice to see also that those headlines are disappearing. Brilliant.

    Follow the money, from Russia with love to Jared, all the way to impeachment. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,957

    Follow the money folks. It shouldn't be this hard to make all of the allegations go away. Just release Trump's tax returns already.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/05/30/this-new-cnn-scoop-shows-the-drip-drip-drip-of-trumps-russia-scandal-will-continue/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-b:homepage/story&utm_term=.0f2059bd8539

    The important point here is that broadly speaking, most Republicans are inclined against taking whatever steps are necessary to deepen their own (not to mention the public’s) understanding of the Russia affair. There are other measures Republicans could take to try to force access to the tax returns, either through legislation or simply by issuing more forceful calls on him to release them. Again: All we are talking about here is a baseline standard of transparency, one that Republican and Democratic presidential candidates have held themselves to for decades, because they recognized that the American people have a right to this transparency from their public officials, a right Trump does not recognize — and one congressional Republicans are now shrugging off.

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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,782
    As much as I dislike Trump and loathe what he is doing as president, I don't think impeachment is the solution. The only hope is resignation. This article in the Atlantic sums up my concerns.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/what-america-can-learn-from-johnsons-impeachment/528477/
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,878
    edited May 2017
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    One of the many roads leading to impeachment is Obstruction of Justice. This one is making waves as of today:

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,957
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,957
    Mueller has legal authority to obtain Trump's tax returns.

    Its going to get brilliant brilliantly real here right quick.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,878
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    2019
    There's talk that Flynn has flipped and is ready to talk about Kushner and Snowflake 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,878
    2019
    Nigel Farage = person of interest 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,957
    There's talk that Flynn has flipped and is ready to talk about Kushner and Snowflake 
    Of course he's flipped. Not one of Trump's minions are loyal to him. They've all sold their souls and not a one will do jail time for him.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,063
    There's talk that Flynn has flipped and is ready to talk about Kushner and Snowflake 
    Of course he's flipped. Not one of Trump's minions are loyal to him. They've all sold their souls and not a one will do jail time for him.
    trump is loyal to no one, no one is loyal to him. Karmic burn
  • So if President Trump gets impeached does this mean the US is back in the Paris agreement?

  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,518
    So if President Trump gets impeached does this mean the US is back in the Paris agreement?

    probably but not 100%.  it does take 3 years to break out of the agreement so we can't actually back out until 2019.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,878
    2019
    2 days till Comey Day
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,878
    2019

    Buckle up. This is only just getting started:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/06/mueller-russia-probe-trump-239163

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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    pjhawks said:
    So if President Trump gets impeached does this mean the US is back in the Paris agreement?

    probably but not 100%.  it does take 3 years to break out of the agreement so we can't actually back out until 2019.
    I actually believe that it takes 4 years. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,957


    Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment:

    But Mueller’s biggest hire to date was Weissmann, who is taking a leave from his current post leading the Justice Department’s criminal fraud section. The two men have a long history together at the FBI, where Weissmann served as both the bureau’s general counsel from 2011 to 2013 and as Mueller’s special counsel in 2005.

    Weissmann’s prosecution record includes overseeing the investigations into more than 30 people while running the Enron Task Force, including CEOs Kenneth Lay and Jeffrey Skilling. And while working in the U.S. attorney’s office in the eastern district of New York, he tried more than 25 cases involving members of the Genovese, Colombo and Gambino crime families.

    Former Obama DOJ spokeswoman Emily Pierce called Weissmann “an inspired choice” to help Mueller lead the Russia probe.

    “As a fraud and foreign bribery expert, he knows how to follow the money. Who knows what they will find, but if there is something to be found, he will find it,” she said.

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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,190
    2019
    To me one has to believe there's something serious going on with Russia and the President. Will anything become of the investigation probably not but it will probably cripple this President to get anything done as far as his agenda. Thank goodness there's no crisis at the moment because this President acts like a teen trying hard to bring an end to his virginity.

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