***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    OnWis97 said:
    did you feel that earthquake this afternoon?

    that was the beginning of the end of an administration. he may not end up being impeached, but he will not win a second term. the majority of people voted against him last time, and more people are just over him now. trump fatigue is real for middle of the road voters, and the gop is going to find that out the hard way if they do not begin to distance themselves now.
    How many of us thought he'd win a first term.  The electoral college will still favor him.  For the Dems to have a chance, they'll have to find someone that's more than "not Trump." Obama had a great combo of energy and (unlike Hillary) minimal history of shenanigans.  I have no idea who that person's going to be but hopefully that person is out there somewhere ready to be that positive force with minimal baggage that brings people to the polls.  The Dems have to go for the win (as opposed to just being "not Trump"); they can't count on Trump beating himself because his followers will never stop supporting him.  

    But NOBODY, not Democrats, liberals, moderates, or any other people that don't want Trump to be President should just be taking comfort in the fact that he's a buffoon and he's going to lose.  Look how well that worked out last time.
    what is trump going to run on? his failed administration? the only reason he won was because it was an open house. he did not unseat an incumbent president. he won a three way race with less popular votes. he won the electoral college, which is no longer a viable thing.

    to win re-election you have to tout your successes and bring those to the american people. to this point trump has zero. unless you count a few executive orders that can be ruled unconstitutional or easily overturned by the next president. he has nothing to run on. even if he survives the scandals, he will be too damaged to win. he would not be considered the head of the party if republicans abandon him.
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  • Cue the, "Trump is a brilliant master strategist playing 3D chess and the only person who looks like a liar is Comey and now Trump has everyone where he wants them, including the republicans who will solidify their power in congress by gaining seats in 2018 which leads to Trump's re-election in 2020 as those brilliant headlines fade away any day now" post.
    Like in poker, it can be said President Trump has the nuts.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,365
    In Mueller's vice grips but he hasn't started to squeeze. Yet.
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  • In Mueller's vice grips but he hasn't started to squeeze. Yet.

    Again with the yet and wait and see. The yet is becoming a yette.  How long are the dems going to umbrella themselves from the bright shining imaginary impeachment ball in the sky lest they turn orange?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,365
    In Mueller's vice grips but he hasn't started to squeeze. Yet.

    Again with the yet and wait and see. The yet is becoming a yette.  How long are the dems going to umbrella themselves from the bright shining imaginary impeachment ball in the sky lest they turn orange?
    I've already explained my timeline. Go back and find my post. Or pay better attention as the professor might say.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2017
    ^^^

    I know you explained your timeline but it hasn't changed after all this shitshow that is unfolding?  I think the impending has been put on an indefinite hold.  Your timeline holds no water.  President Trump still stands. (Although he may have to sit and have drink after a long day on the green)
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,365
    ^^^

    I know you explained your timeline but it hasn't changed after all this shitshow that is unfolding?  I think the impending has been put on an indefinite hold.  Your timeline holds no water.  President Trump still stands. (Although he may have to sit and have drink after a long day on the green)
    I didn't start this thread. Pay attention.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2017
    ^^^

    I know you explained your timeline but it hasn't changed after all this shitshow that is unfolding?  I think the impending has been put on an indefinite hold.  Your timeline holds no water.  President Trump still stands. (Although he may have to sit and have drink after a long day on the green)
    I didn't start this thread. Pay attention.
    I am paying attention. Yet your strong opinion and dislike of President Trump overpowers points you try to make. A lot actually.  Where has  the Russian money trail gone? Where is this magical ptape?  Where is everything else you say will take down President Trump?  Nowhere to be found just endless words on CNN.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,365
    ^^^

    I know you explained your timeline but it hasn't changed after all this shitshow that is unfolding?  I think the impending has been put on an indefinite hold.  Your timeline holds no water.  President Trump still stands. (Although he may have to sit and have drink after a long day on the green)
    I didn't start this thread. Pay attention.
    I am paying attention. Yet your strong opinion and dislike of President Trump overpowers points you try to make. A lot actually.  Where has  the Russian money trail gone? Where is this magical ptape?  Where is everything else you say will take down President Trump?  Nowhere to be found just endless words on CNN.

    ^^^

    I know you explained your timeline but it hasn't changed after all this shitshow that is unfolding?  I think the impending has been put on an indefinite hold.  Your timeline holds no water.  President Trump still stands. (Although he may have to sit and have drink after a long day on the green)
    Tell me who Mueller appointed to his team, if you're paying attention. These types of investigations take time and need to be thorough, as they should be. If you know what my timeline is, why are you harping on me about why impeachment hasn't started yet? Trump will stand until he's impeached by the house and removed from office by the senate. Or resigns, whichever comes first. I'm sorry you don't understand our constitutional procedures. Google can be your friend. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,365
    Evidence of absence is not absence of evidence.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    edited June 2017
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    So after yesterday, I think it's clear obstruction or abuse of power is what may get it done....

    Really hope the tapes are subpoenaed, if they actually exist.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    ^^^

    I know you explained your timeline but it hasn't changed after all this shitshow that is unfolding?  I think the impending has been put on an indefinite hold.  Your timeline holds no water.  President Trump still stands. (Although he may have to sit and have drink after a long day on the green)
    I didn't start this thread. Pay attention.
    I am paying attention. Yet your strong opinion and dislike of President Trump overpowers points you try to make. A lot actually.  Where has  the Russian money trail gone? Where is this magical ptape?  Where is everything else you say will take down President Trump?  Nowhere to be found just endless words on CNN.
    It hasn't even been 6 months yet, quit trolling.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,929
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    The one thing I'm sick & tired of hearing about is the precious Constitution with what has transpired in the political landscape this past year I'd say it's a worthless document at best ! 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,365
    rgambs said:
    ^^^

    I know you explained your timeline but it hasn't changed after all this shitshow that is unfolding?  I think the impending has been put on an indefinite hold.  Your timeline holds no water.  President Trump still stands. (Although he may have to sit and have drink after a long day on the green)
    I didn't start this thread. Pay attention.
    I am paying attention. Yet your strong opinion and dislike of President Trump overpowers points you try to make. A lot actually.  Where has  the Russian money trail gone? Where is this magical ptape?  Where is everything else you say will take down President Trump?  Nowhere to be found just endless words on CNN.
    It hasn't even been 6 months yet, quit trolling.
    Seven months yesterday since being elected. Feels like seven years. Tired of winning yet?
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,483
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    rgambs said:
    ^^^

    I know you explained your timeline but it hasn't changed after all this shitshow that is unfolding?  I think the impending has been put on an indefinite hold.  Your timeline holds no water.  President Trump still stands. (Although he may have to sit and have drink after a long day on the green)
    I didn't start this thread. Pay attention.
    I am paying attention. Yet your strong opinion and dislike of President Trump overpowers points you try to make. A lot actually.  Where has  the Russian money trail gone? Where is this magical ptape?  Where is everything else you say will take down President Trump?  Nowhere to be found just endless words on CNN.
    It hasn't even been 6 months yet, quit trolling.
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    The one thing I'm sick & tired of hearing about is the precious Constitution with what has transpired in the political landscape this past year I'd say it's a worthless document at best ! 
    Wow, really?  Care to elaborate?  
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    2018
    OnWis97 said:
    did you feel that earthquake this afternoon?

    that was the beginning of the end of an administration. he may not end up being impeached, but he will not win a second term. the majority of people voted against him last time, and more people are just over him now. trump fatigue is real for middle of the road voters, and the gop is going to find that out the hard way if they do not begin to distance themselves now.
    How many of us thought he'd win a first term.  The electoral college will still favor him.  For the Dems to have a chance, they'll have to find someone that's more than "not Trump." Obama had a great combo of energy and (unlike Hillary) minimal history of shenanigans.  I have no idea who that person's going to be but hopefully that person is out there somewhere ready to be that positive force with minimal baggage that brings people to the polls.  The Dems have to go for the win (as opposed to just being "not Trump"); they can't count on Trump beating himself because his followers will never stop supporting him.  

    But NOBODY, not Democrats, liberals, moderates, or any other people that don't want Trump to be President should just be taking comfort in the fact that he's a buffoon and he's going to lose.  Look how well that worked out last time.
    I would agree with this. Hillary sat back and basked in the victory when she thought it was in the bag. we all thought it was going to be a crushing victory. they need a MESSAGE. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
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    OnWis97 said:
    did you feel that earthquake this afternoon?

    that was the beginning of the end of an administration. he may not end up being impeached, but he will not win a second term. the majority of people voted against him last time, and more people are just over him now. trump fatigue is real for middle of the road voters, and the gop is going to find that out the hard way if they do not begin to distance themselves now.
    How many of us thought he'd win a first term.  The electoral college will still favor him.  For the Dems to have a chance, they'll have to find someone that's more than "not Trump." Obama had a great combo of energy and (unlike Hillary) minimal history of shenanigans.  I have no idea who that person's going to be but hopefully that person is out there somewhere ready to be that positive force with minimal baggage that brings people to the polls.  The Dems have to go for the win (as opposed to just being "not Trump"); they can't count on Trump beating himself because his followers will never stop supporting him.  

    But NOBODY, not Democrats, liberals, moderates, or any other people that don't want Trump to be President should just be taking comfort in the fact that he's a buffoon and he's going to lose.  Look how well that worked out last time.
    what is trump going to run on? his failed administration? the only reason he won was because it was an open house. he did not unseat an incumbent president. he won a three way race with less popular votes. he won the electoral college, which is no longer a viable thing.

    to win re-election you have to tout your successes and bring those to the american people. to this point trump has zero. unless you count a few executive orders that can be ruled unconstitutional or easily overturned by the next president. he has nothing to run on. even if he survives the scandals, he will be too damaged to win. he would not be considered the head of the party if republicans abandon him.
    he is only 5 months in. it is still very early in his term. at year 4 all of this, if nothing comes of it, could be forgotten. depending on how the rest of this term goes. it is WAY too early to say he's too damaged to win again. 
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    rgambs said:
    ^^^

    I know you explained your timeline but it hasn't changed after all this shitshow that is unfolding?  I think the impending has been put on an indefinite hold.  Your timeline holds no water.  President Trump still stands. (Although he may have to sit and have drink after a long day on the green)
    I didn't start this thread. Pay attention.
    I am paying attention. Yet your strong opinion and dislike of President Trump overpowers points you try to make. A lot actually.  Where has  the Russian money trail gone? Where is this magical ptape?  Where is everything else you say will take down President Trump?  Nowhere to be found just endless words on CNN.
    It hasn't even been 6 months yet, quit trolling.
    Seven months yesterday since being elected. Feels like seven years. Tired of winning yet?
    Seven months and his biggest accomplishment is he hasn't been thrown out of office...yet.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,929
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    PJPOWER said:
    The one thing I'm sick & tired of hearing about is the precious Constitution with what has transpired in the political landscape this past year I'd say it's a worthless document at best ! 
    Wow, really?  Care to elaborate?  
    If you have to ask id say you haven't been paying attention , start with Sessions lying under oath about meeting with Russian diplomats ! This administration has trampled the constitution.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,199
    2019
    PJPOWER said:
    The one thing I'm sick & tired of hearing about is the precious Constitution with what has transpired in the political landscape this past year I'd say it's a worthless document at best ! 
    Wow, really?  Care to elaborate?  
    If you have to ask id say you haven't been paying attention , start with Sessions lying under oath about meeting with Russian diplomats ! This administration has trampled the constitution.

    However, to get back to the President  like what SOTH Ryan said, "The president is new to this."

    He needs to get a personal trainer I know one of The best on Palm Beach island.


    Peace
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    g under p said:
    PJPOWER said:
    The one thing I'm sick & tired of hearing about is the precious Constitution with what has transpired in the political landscape this past year I'd say it's a worthless document at best ! 
    Wow, really?  Care to elaborate?  
    If you have to ask id say you haven't been paying attention , start with Sessions lying under oath about meeting with Russian diplomats ! This administration has trampled the constitution.

    However, to get back to the President  like what SOTH Ryan said, "The president is new to this."

    He needs to get a personal trainer I know one of The best on Palm Beach island.


    Peace
    Surely he didn't seriously say that, did he?

    Every president that's ever held office was new to it at some point. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    2017
    g under p said:
    PJPOWER said:
    The one thing I'm sick & tired of hearing about is the precious Constitution with what has transpired in the political landscape this past year I'd say it's a worthless document at best ! 
    Wow, really?  Care to elaborate?  
    If you have to ask id say you haven't been paying attention , start with Sessions lying under oath about meeting with Russian diplomats ! This administration has trampled the constitution.

    However, to get back to the President  like what SOTH Ryan said, "The president is new to this."

    He needs to get a personal trainer I know one of The best on Palm Beach island.


    Peace
    Surely he didn't seriously say that, did he?

    Every president that's ever held office was new to it at some point. 
    :lol: 

    GOP’s New Defense of Trump: The Guy’s A Toddler, He Doesn’t Know Any Better

    "Republicans attempting to explain President Donald Trump’s behavior appear to be trying out a novel approach: He ought not to be blamed for his mistakes because he doesn’t know any better.

    “He’s new at government and so, therefore, I think that he’s learning as he goes,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) told reporters Thursday, explaining how Trump could have thought it was OK to lean on the FBI director to drop a criminal investigation.

    Call it the toddler defense. Trump cannot be expected to understand appropriate behavior for a president because he is a businessman, not a politician, and is still only learning."

    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    2018
    g under p said:
    PJPOWER said:
    The one thing I'm sick & tired of hearing about is the precious Constitution with what has transpired in the political landscape this past year I'd say it's a worthless document at best ! 
    Wow, really?  Care to elaborate?  
    If you have to ask id say you haven't been paying attention , start with Sessions lying under oath about meeting with Russian diplomats ! This administration has trampled the constitution.

    However, to get back to the President  like what SOTH Ryan said, "The president is new to this."

    He needs to get a personal trainer I know one of The best on Palm Beach island.


    Peace
    Surely he didn't seriously say that, did he?

    Every president that's ever held office was new to it at some point. 
    he did. I saw the video. I couldn't believe what i was seeing. 
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,455
    jeffbr said:
    g under p said:
    PJPOWER said:
    The one thing I'm sick & tired of hearing about is the precious Constitution with what has transpired in the political landscape this past year I'd say it's a worthless document at best ! 
    Wow, really?  Care to elaborate?  
    If you have to ask id say you haven't been paying attention , start with Sessions lying under oath about meeting with Russian diplomats ! This administration has trampled the constitution.

    However, to get back to the President  like what SOTH Ryan said, "The president is new to this."

    He needs to get a personal trainer I know one of The best on Palm Beach island.


    Peace
    Surely he didn't seriously say that, did he?

    Every president that's ever held office was new to it at some point. 
    :lol: 

    GOP’s New Defense of Trump: The Guy’s A Toddler, He Doesn’t Know Any Better

    "Republicans attempting to explain President Donald Trump’s behavior appear to be trying out a novel approach: He ought not to be blamed for his mistakes because he doesn’t know any better.

    “He’s new at government and so, therefore, I think that he’s learning as he goes,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) told reporters Thursday, explaining how Trump could have thought it was OK to lean on the FBI director to drop a criminal investigation.

    Call it the toddler defense. Trump cannot be expected to understand appropriate behavior for a president because he is a businessman, not a politician, and is still only learning."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCU1JUUSz2s

  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    "THE FIELD"
    g under p said:
    PJPOWER said:
    The one thing I'm sick & tired of hearing about is the precious Constitution with what has transpired in the political landscape this past year I'd say it's a worthless document at best ! 
    Wow, really?  Care to elaborate?  
    If you have to ask id say you haven't been paying attention , start with Sessions lying under oath about meeting with Russian diplomats ! This administration has trampled the constitution.

    However, to get back to the President  like what SOTH Ryan said, "The president is new to this."

    He needs to get a personal trainer I know one of The best on Palm Beach island.


    Peace
    Surely he didn't seriously say that, did he?

    Every president that's ever held office was new to it at some point. 
    They've all been new at being President but Trump's unique in not having paid any other political dues before being elected.  He's never been a representative, Senator, Governor, Mayor, City Council Member, etc.  That's unique.  

    So, I hate to say it, but Ryan's kinda right.  Another way to phrase it is "he's totally unqualified."  Yet another way is "he's totally unqualified, but what are we supposed to do?  You nitwits elected him."

    That Ryan said this is a bigger indictment on the voters for electing him (and non-voters for letting it happen) than it is on the GOP.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    2018
    OnWis97 said:
    g under p said:
    PJPOWER said:
    The one thing I'm sick & tired of hearing about is the precious Constitution with what has transpired in the political landscape this past year I'd say it's a worthless document at best ! 
    Wow, really?  Care to elaborate?  
    If you have to ask id say you haven't been paying attention , start with Sessions lying under oath about meeting with Russian diplomats ! This administration has trampled the constitution.

    However, to get back to the President  like what SOTH Ryan said, "The president is new to this."

    He needs to get a personal trainer I know one of The best on Palm Beach island.


    Peace
    Surely he didn't seriously say that, did he?

    Every president that's ever held office was new to it at some point. 
    They've all been new at being President but Trump's unique in not having paid any other political dues before being elected.  He's never been a representative, Senator, Governor, Mayor, City Council Member, etc.  That's unique.  

    So, I hate to say it, but Ryan's kinda right.  Another way to phrase it is "he's totally unqualified."  Yet another way is "he's totally unqualified, but what are we supposed to do?  You nitwits elected him."

    That Ryan said this is a bigger indictment on the voters for electing him (and non-voters for letting it happen) than it is on the GOP.
    well of course he's right, but it's laughable to use ignorance of procedures as an excuse for your conduct when you are the POTUS. if anything, the people he surrounds himself with are partially to blame for not bringing him up to speed on how it all works. he should probably have someone at his side 24/7 to guide him. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,920
    OnWis97 said:
    g under p said:
    PJPOWER said:
    The one thing I'm sick & tired of hearing about is the precious Constitution with what has transpired in the political landscape this past year I'd say it's a worthless document at best ! 
    Wow, really?  Care to elaborate?  
    If you have to ask id say you haven't been paying attention , start with Sessions lying under oath about meeting with Russian diplomats ! This administration has trampled the constitution.

    However, to get back to the President  like what SOTH Ryan said, "The president is new to this."

    He needs to get a personal trainer I know one of The best on Palm Beach island.


    Peace
    Surely he didn't seriously say that, did he?

    Every president that's ever held office was new to it at some point. 
    They've all been new at being President but Trump's unique in not having paid any other political dues before being elected.  He's never been a representative, Senator, Governor, Mayor, City Council Member, etc.  That's unique.  

    So, I hate to say it, but Ryan's kinda right.  Another way to phrase it is "he's totally unqualified."  Yet another way is "he's totally unqualified, but what are we supposed to do?  You nitwits elected him."

    That Ryan said this is a bigger indictment on the voters for electing him (and non-voters for letting it happen) than it is on the GOP.
    well of course he's right, but it's laughable to use ignorance of procedures as an excuse for your conduct when you are the POTUS. if anything, the people he surrounds himself with are partially to blame for not bringing him up to speed on how it all works. he should probably have someone at his side 24/7 to guide him. 

    He has nobody guiding/mentoring him. If he did the childish moronic tweeting would have stopped the day he got elected.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    2018
    eddiec said:
    OnWis97 said:
    g under p said:
    PJPOWER said:
    The one thing I'm sick & tired of hearing about is the precious Constitution with what has transpired in the political landscape this past year I'd say it's a worthless document at best ! 
    Wow, really?  Care to elaborate?  
    If you have to ask id say you haven't been paying attention , start with Sessions lying under oath about meeting with Russian diplomats ! This administration has trampled the constitution.

    However, to get back to the President  like what SOTH Ryan said, "The president is new to this."

    He needs to get a personal trainer I know one of The best on Palm Beach island.


    Peace
    Surely he didn't seriously say that, did he?

    Every president that's ever held office was new to it at some point. 
    They've all been new at being President but Trump's unique in not having paid any other political dues before being elected.  He's never been a representative, Senator, Governor, Mayor, City Council Member, etc.  That's unique.  

    So, I hate to say it, but Ryan's kinda right.  Another way to phrase it is "he's totally unqualified."  Yet another way is "he's totally unqualified, but what are we supposed to do?  You nitwits elected him."

    That Ryan said this is a bigger indictment on the voters for electing him (and non-voters for letting it happen) than it is on the GOP.
    well of course he's right, but it's laughable to use ignorance of procedures as an excuse for your conduct when you are the POTUS. if anything, the people he surrounds himself with are partially to blame for not bringing him up to speed on how it all works. he should probably have someone at his side 24/7 to guide him. 

    He has nobody guiding/mentoring him. If he did the childish moronic tweeting would have stopped the day he got elected.
    I know. but that's obviously what he needs. but why would he start listening to anyone else now at this age? and especially as president?
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    2019
    PJPOWER said:
    The one thing I'm sick & tired of hearing about is the precious Constitution with what has transpired in the political landscape this past year I'd say it's a worthless document at best ! 
    Wow, really?  Care to elaborate?  
    If you have to ask id say you haven't been paying attention , start with Sessions lying under oath about meeting with Russian diplomats ! This administration has trampled the constitution.
    Easy there, big fella. The constitution is what will ultimately lead to his ouster...
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