Is BRADY The G.O.A.T.

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  • ehbacon
    ehbacon Posts: 1,972
    JimmyV said:

    The greatest players usually make the players around them better. Brady has done that his entire career.

    Oh my god that is the lamest argument I've ever heard.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    ehbacon said:

    JimmyV said:

    The greatest players usually make the players around them better. Brady has done that his entire career.

    Oh my god that is the lamest argument I've ever heard.
    It's not an argument. Just a statement. If it gets in the way of your weird Aaron Rodgers trolling, so be it.
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  • ehbacon
    ehbacon Posts: 1,972
    edited February 2017
    JimmyV said:

    ehbacon said:

    JimmyV said:

    The greatest players usually make the players around them better. Brady has done that his entire career.

    Oh my god that is the lamest argument I've ever heard.
    It's not an argument. Just a statement. If it gets in the way of your weird Aaron Rodgers trolling, so be it.
    It's not trolling, it's my very valid opinion based on stats, knowledge, and observation.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    ehbacon said:

    JimmyV said:

    ehbacon said:

    JimmyV said:

    The greatest players usually make the players around them better. Brady has done that his entire career.

    Oh my god that is the lamest argument I've ever heard.
    It's not an argument. Just a statement. If it gets in the way of your weird Aaron Rodgers trolling, so be it.
    It's not trolling, it's my very valid opinion based on stats, knowledge, and observation.
    Nah. If you were pushing Manning or Montana, sure. You're not. You are pushing a guy whose career is not even 2/3 over. He might be the greatest ever...someday. There is no case to be made he is the greatest ever today. It's a thread that has nothing to do with Rodgers and a discussion Rodgers currently has no place in.
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  • ehbacon
    ehbacon Posts: 1,972
    JimmyV said:

    ehbacon said:

    JimmyV said:

    ehbacon said:

    JimmyV said:

    The greatest players usually make the players around them better. Brady has done that his entire career.

    Oh my god that is the lamest argument I've ever heard.
    It's not an argument. Just a statement. If it gets in the way of your weird Aaron Rodgers trolling, so be it.
    It's not trolling, it's my very valid opinion based on stats, knowledge, and observation.
    Nah. If you were pushing Manning or Montana, sure. You're not. You are pushing a guy whose career is not even 2/3 over. He might be the greatest ever...someday. There is no case to be made he is the greatest ever today. It's a thread that has nothing to do with Rodgers and a discussion Rodgers currently has no place in.
    I'm not saying Rodgers is the GOAT, I'm saying that Brady can't be the GOAT if there has been someone better than him for 9 seasons.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Dude, you claimed Rodgers was the GOAT on page 1.
    ehbacon said:

    Rodgers is the GOAT.

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  • ehbacon
    ehbacon Posts: 1,972
    edited February 2017
    JimmyV said:

    Dude, you claimed Rodgers was the GOAT on page 1.

    ehbacon said:

    Rodgers is the GOAT.

    OK you caught me I think he is the GOAT. I forgot I posted that and thought I could act agreeable on something, but I think he is the GOAT and it isn't even close.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,799
    Rodgers won't have the career tom Brady has had. Nobody cares about stats. Ask Marino. Playoff and championship wins are what matter. Who gives a fuck about QB rating or ability to scramble or Hail Marys? What matters is that your QB gets the job done when it counts the most. And time after time, tom has done that. No one other than you thinks Aaron Rodgers is the goat and revolutionized the game.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    ehbacon said:

    JimmyV said:

    Dude, you claimed Rodgers was the GOAT on page 1.

    ehbacon said:

    Rodgers is the GOAT.

    OK you caught me I think he is the GOAT. I forgot I posted that and thought I could act agreeable on something, but I think he is the GOAT and it isn't even close.
    Cool. I have no problem with Rodgers. He's fun to watch. Like I said, maybe someday there will be a case to be made he is the GOAT. We shall see.
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  • Wobbie
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    and I thought the Cubs' threads were annoying.....
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  • ehbacon
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    JimmyV said:

    ehbacon said:

    JimmyV said:

    Dude, you claimed Rodgers was the GOAT on page 1.

    ehbacon said:

    Rodgers is the GOAT.

    OK you caught me I think he is the GOAT. I forgot I posted that and thought I could act agreeable on something, but I think he is the GOAT and it isn't even close.
    Cool. I have no problem with Rodgers. He's fun to watch. Like I said, maybe someday there will be a case to be made he is the GOAT. We shall see.
    I'm a packer season ticket holder, and owner. I'm a huge fan. During training camp I go out and watch the practices all the time, and I usually rewatch our games at least once (even the championship game from this year.) I'very watched Aaron Rodgers for years and the dude is just incredible. It makes me sick that our management has only given him two teams able to win a super bowl (I think we were able to win a super bowl in 2014, but Bostick and our defense had other plans...) I can understand if you don't think his career has been long enough to be GOAT, but the thing that makes me mad is saying that his success disqualifies him, because success is so much more than just a QB. I could see an argument for Belichick being the GOAT (I prefer Lombardi but since their stats are basically incomparable due to the much different eras, that's just bias.) A coach has a lot more to do with success than a QB does.
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  • Wobbie
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    "and owner" :lol:

    you and about another million others....your stock has no value but it's an easy money grab for the team.

    still, pack > cheatriots
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,298
    Poncier said:

    Fran Tarkenton was apparently a stationary QB since nobody could scramble until Aaron Rodgers showed us how its done.

    This right here. Fran Tarkenton could scramble with any QB that has ever played.
  • ehbacon
    ehbacon Posts: 1,972
    Wobbie said:

    "and owner" :lol:

    you and about another million others....your stock has no value but it's an easy money grab for the team.

    still, pack > cheatriots

    The team is non profit so it is anything but a "money grab". And all the thousands of owners take great pride in it. We get invited to soecial events and get to vote on where some of the teams income goes, it's really neat.
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  • HesCalledDyer
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    Wobbie said:

    and I thought the Cubs' threads were annoying.....

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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I'd say OJ Simpson, the guy beat a murder charge with evidence stacked against him god dammit!
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  • Wma31394
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    Thoughts_Arrive said:

    I'd say OJ Simpson, the guy beat a murder charge with evidence stacked against him god dammit!

    Might want to stick to rugby or cricket..
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    ehbacon said:

    JimmyV said:

    ehbacon said:

    JimmyV said:

    Dude, you claimed Rodgers was the GOAT on page 1.

    ehbacon said:

    Rodgers is the GOAT.

    OK you caught me I think he is the GOAT. I forgot I posted that and thought I could act agreeable on something, but I think he is the GOAT and it isn't even close.
    Cool. I have no problem with Rodgers. He's fun to watch. Like I said, maybe someday there will be a case to be made he is the GOAT. We shall see.
    I'm a packer season ticket holder, and owner. I'm a huge fan. During training camp I go out and watch the practices all the time, and I usually rewatch our games at least once (even the championship game from this year.) I'very watched Aaron Rodgers for years and the dude is just incredible. It makes me sick that our management has only given him two teams able to win a super bowl (I think we were able to win a super bowl in 2014, but Bostick and our defense had other plans...) I can understand if you don't think his career has been long enough to be GOAT, but the thing that makes me mad is saying that his success disqualifies him, because success is so much more than just a QB. I could see an argument for Belichick being the GOAT (I prefer Lombardi but since their stats are basically incomparable due to the much different eras, that's just bias.) A coach has a lot more to do with success than a QB does.
    I don't think success qualifies or lack of success disqualifies. It isn't that simple. Dan Marino never won anything but he set insane passing records at a time when it was much harder to throw in the NFL. It would be foolish to keep him out of this conversation because the body of work demands inclusion. Rodgers isn't in yet, in my opinion, but he's closer than say Eli Manning who is his contemporary and won twice.

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  • Poncier
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    Lets just put this Aaron Wroggers argument out of its misery...




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  • Poncier
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    ehbacon said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    Didn't the Pats go 4-1 without Brady this season? Hmmm.

    3-1 but that is very telling.


    In 2013 Rodgers missed 7 games, during which the team went 2-4-1. They ended up winning the division that year.
    What about here...

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=320101009

    Kind of telling how well the Pack click on offense when they sit Rodgers for Matt Flynn.
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