Kind of telling how well the Pack click on offense when they sit Rodgers for Matt Flynn.
In Aaron Rodgers starting career, in the games he hasn't played (or was injured for the majority of) the Packers are 2-7-1.
So you say above Rodgers-less Pack went 2-4-1 in 2013 and then after I show you the game where Matt Flynn showed Wisconsin how quarterbacking is done in the 2011 season, you come back with Pack is 2-7-1 when Rodgers sits.
3-6-1, not much better. 30% Win Percentage for the Packers when Rodgers isn't playing, compared to a 70% Win Percentage for the Patriots when Brady isn't playing.
OK, saying Rodgers is the greatest QB of all time is fairly laughable, but Stave Carlton as the greatest baseball player. Dude, you're smoking something.
In 1971 the Phillies won 67 games, Steve Carlton had 20 wins that year. In 1972 the Phillies won 59 games, Steve Carlton had 27 wins that year. (also 310 strikeouts and a 1.97 ERA.) He had 6 20-win seasons in his career, and for the most part played on a really bad team
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Kind of telling how well the Pack click on offense when they sit Rodgers for Matt Flynn.
In Aaron Rodgers starting career, in the games he hasn't played (or was injured for the majority of) the Packers are 2-7-1.
So you say above Rodgers-less Pack went 2-4-1 in 2013 and then after I show you the game where Matt Flynn showed Wisconsin how quarterbacking is done in the 2011 season, you come back with Pack is 2-7-1 when Rodgers sits.
3-6-1, not much better. 30% Win Percentage for the Packers when Rodgers isn't playing, compared to a 70% Win Percentage for the Patriots when Brady isn't playing.
OK, saying Rodgers is the greatest QB of all time is fairly laughable, but Stave Carlton as the greatest baseball player. Dude, you're smoking something.
In 1971 the Phillies won 67 games, Steve Carlton had 20 wins that year. In 1972 the Phillies won 59 games, Steve Carlton had 27 wins that year. (also 310 strikeouts and a 1.97 ERA.) He had 6 20-win seasons in his career, and for the most part played on a really bad team
Bobby Abreu in the conversation for greatest MLB player of all time? Now you're just trolling.
maybe not the greatest, but most underappreciated I don't think it's even close. Abreu was absolutely amazing for years and nobody really noticed because, for the most part, what he did wasn't very flashy. When my future kids are about to play little league, I'm going to show them Bobby Abreu highlights. He played the game so incredibly intelligently, especially at the plate.
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We're stuck with the acronym "G.O.A.T." for the rest of our lives aren't we? Damn. The only thing I hate more in sports talk is "-gate" as a suffix for controversy (Spygate, Delategate, etc.). God help me if there's ever a Goatgate.
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We're stuck with the acronym "G.O.A.T." for the rest of our lives aren't we? Damn. The only thing I hate more in sports talk is "-gate" as a suffix for controversy (Spygate, Delategate, etc.). God help me if there's ever a Goatgate.
"Nation" is another one I can't stand. Every damn fan base these days collectively refers to themselves as "nickname nation."
Draft class or Era I can see. While the basics are the same the game is different than say 10 or 20 years ago. But football is a team sport so........ he didnt get here by himself.
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We're stuck with the acronym "G.O.A.T." for the rest of our lives aren't we? Damn. The only thing I hate more in sports talk is "-gate" as a suffix for controversy (Spygate, Delategate, etc.). God help me if there's ever a Goatgate.
I was just thinking about this the other day. I mean, "gate" was just the third syllable in the name of the hotel. it's not like a verb or anything. it really, when you break it down, doesn't make a lick of sense to refer to any controversy with "-gate" at the end. I mean, Watergate wasn't "water controversy". If it had happened at the Holiday Inn, would it have been "Deflate-Inn"?
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Draft class or Era I can see. While the basics are the same the game is different than say 10 or 20 years ago. But football is a team sport so........ he didnt get here by himself.
True, but nobody does.
The more I think about it the more I come back to Dan Marino and the things he did in a time when it wasn't nearly as easy to throw as it is today. If he played in this era I'm not sure any passing record would be in reach.
Kind of telling how well the Pack click on offense when they sit Rodgers for Matt Flynn.
In Aaron Rodgers starting career, in the games he hasn't played (or was injured for the majority of) the Packers are 2-7-1.
So you say above Rodgers-less Pack went 2-4-1 in 2013 and then after I show you the game where Matt Flynn showed Wisconsin how quarterbacking is done in the 2011 season, you come back with Pack is 2-7-1 when Rodgers sits.
3-6-1, not much better. 30% Win Percentage for the Packers when Rodgers isn't playing, compared to a 70% Win Percentage for the Patriots when Brady isn't playing.
OK, saying Rodgers is the greatest QB of all time is fairly laughable, but Stave Carlton as the greatest baseball player. Dude, you're smoking something.
In 1971 the Phillies won 67 games, Steve Carlton had 20 wins that year. In 1972 the Phillies won 59 games, Steve Carlton had 27 wins that year. (also 310 strikeouts and a 1.97 ERA.) He had 6 20-win seasons in his career, and for the most part played on a really bad team
Bobby Abreu in the conversation for greatest MLB player of all time? Now you're just trolling.
maybe not the greatest, but most underappreciated I don't think it's even close. Abreu was absolutely amazing for years and nobody really noticed because, for the most part, what he did wasn't very flashy. When my future kids are about to play little league, I'm going to show them Bobby Abreu highlights. He played the game so incredibly intelligently, especially at the plate.
Bobby Abreu was one of the biggest dogs, if not the biggest dog ever to play for the Phillies. I don't a f--- what his sabermetric stats were. he sucked and was a dog. do you know he told manager Larry Bowa that he wouldn't lead off? yea that guy. screw him. one of my all time most hated Phillie players. he sucked i tell ya. sucked.
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Source for the Bowa thing? Never heard of it and Google hadn't either
Heard Bowa mention it in an interview one time.
and Gretzky is the greatest of all time in any sport. Do you realize that Sidney Crosby just became the fastest player in games played to get to 1000 career points...and he would have to average more points per game for the next 15 straight years to surpass Gretzky in points. incredible.
Source for the Bowa thing? Never heard of it and Google hadn't either
Heard Bowa mention it in an interview one time.
and Gretzky is the greatest of all time in any sport. Do you realize that Sidney Crosby just became the fastest player in games played to get to 1000 career points...and he would have to average more points per game for the next 15 straight years to surpass Gretzky in points. incredible.
It is crazy but hard to compare eras sometimes. Scoring is down @35% from that era so that is a factor as well when comparing stats.
Source for the Bowa thing? Never heard of it and Google hadn't either
Heard Bowa mention it in an interview one time.
and Gretzky is the greatest of all time in any sport. Do you realize that Sidney Crosby just became the fastest player in games played to get to 1000 career points...and he would have to average more points per game for the next 15 straight years to surpass Gretzky in points. incredible.
It is crazy but hard to compare eras sometimes. Scoring is down @35% from that era so that is a factor as well when comparing stats.
maybe but Mark Messier is 3rd all time in points, and was 2nd until last year, and he played in the same era and a few extra years than Wayne and still is almost a thousand points behind Wayne.
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He may be the GOAT, but his SB record is still 5 - Giants.
Source for the Bowa thing? Never heard of it and Google hadn't either
Heard Bowa mention it in an interview one time.
and Gretzky is the greatest of all time in any sport. Do you realize that Sidney Crosby just became the fastest player in games played to get to 1000 career points...and he would have to average more points per game for the next 15 straight years to surpass Gretzky in points. incredible.
It is crazy but hard to compare eras sometimes. Scoring is down @35% from that era so that is a factor as well when comparing stats.
maybe but Mark Messier is 3rd all time in points, and was 2nd until last year, and he played in the same era and a few extra years than Wayne and still is almost a thousand points behind Wayne.
I saw Bobby Orr play, but , to me anyway, Gretzky is in a class all by himself.
How does this guy have Mark Messier 15th? The best 2-way player i've seen. Plus a GREAT leader who could beat you in every aspect of the game: scoring, defending, checking, intimidation, and dropped the gloves and beat your ass if needed too.
Source for the Bowa thing? Never heard of it and Google hadn't either
Heard Bowa mention it in an interview one time.
and Gretzky is the greatest of all time in any sport. Do you realize that Sidney Crosby just became the fastest player in games played to get to 1000 career points...and he would have to average more points per game for the next 15 straight years to surpass Gretzky in points. incredible.
It is crazy but hard to compare eras sometimes. Scoring is down @35% from that era so that is a factor as well when comparing stats.
maybe but Mark Messier is 3rd all time in points, and was 2nd until last year, and he played in the same era and a few extra years than Wayne and still is almost a thousand points behind Wayne.
I saw Bobby Orr play, but , to me anyway, Gretzky is in a class all by himself.
How does this guy have Mark Messier 15th? The best 2-way player i've seen. Plus a GREAT leader who could beat you in every aspect of the game: scoring, defending, checking, intimidation, and dropped the gloves and beat your ass if needed too.
I stopped reading at Lemieux being #3. And he has Crosby and Ovechkin both ahead of Jagr. Dude's fucking clueless.
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Bobby Abreu in the conversation for greatest MLB player of all time? Now you're just trolling.
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The more I think about it the more I come back to Dan Marino and the things he did in a time when it wasn't nearly as easy to throw as it is today. If he played in this era I'm not sure any passing record would be in reach.
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Source for the Bowa thing? Never heard of it and Google hadn't either
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and Gretzky is the greatest of all time in any sport. Do you realize that Sidney Crosby just became the fastest player in games played to get to 1000 career points...and he would have to average more points per game for the next 15 straight years to surpass Gretzky in points. incredible.
Also,
http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/nhl/wayne-gretzky-was-great-but-bobby-orr-is-the-greatest-steve-simmons-ranks-the-nhls-100-best-players
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How does this guy have Mark Messier 15th? The best 2-way player i've seen. Plus a GREAT leader who could beat you in every aspect of the game: scoring, defending, checking, intimidation, and dropped the gloves and beat your ass if needed too.
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