Text of Muslim Ban Executive Order in a few posts

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  • unsung
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    Kat said:

    unsung said:

    Kat said:

    unsung said:

    Kat said:

    Yes, it looks like it'll be up to the Judicial Branch to be the firewall to protect the Constitution and our Bill of Rights, etc. Next we'll be hearing about how all the judges and lawyers are sleazy, bought off, etc. The administration will attempt to undermine those tell them they're doing it all wrong.

    Thanks for the laugh.

    Remember that C word the next time you talk about my gun rights.
    The Constitution has always been a work in progress...the experiment that is America...that is slipping way.
    I mourn 93 additional dead Americans today.
    There is a reasonable place between someone's right to have guns and people's right to be safe and not be victimized. One doesn't trump the other and the founding fathers never imagined what's going on today.
    https://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-by-the-numbers/

    Exactly. Your feelings don't trump my rights.

    I am guessing the founding fathers never anticipated more than two genders either.
    Mischaracterizing my rights as feelings doesn't contribute to an honest discussion. I'm done.
    Well, ok.
  • It's not a ban.
    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer is insisting President Donald Trump's immigration order should not be referred to as a travel "ban." That's despite the fact the president has called it that himself.
    Spicer says during a press briefing that, "When we use words like travel ban that misrepresents what it is." He says "a ban would mean people can't get in."
    Trump's policy bars the entry of nationals from seven majority-Muslim countries for 90 days and temporarily suspends the country's refugee program.
    Trump himself referred to his order as "the ban" in a Monday tweet.
    Spicer says Trump was only using the media's words.

    http://www.nptelegraph.com/news/politics/the-latest-spicer-says-travel-ban-shouldn-t-be-called/article_f8fc9f77-3521-5866-8d98-75aafc605074.html
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    Apparently they think they can now distract people by focusing on the word "ban". Too late - the toothpaste can't be put back in the tube. We all know what the "ban" has done and is doing and will do. It doesn't fucking matter if they call it a ban or not. All that matters is the effect it's having on people and companies and schools, etc, and everyone is paying close attention to that. Bitching about semantics isn't going to work this time mofos.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJ_Soul said:

    Apparently they think they can now distract people by focusing on the word "ban". Too late - the toothpaste can't be put back in the tube. We all know what the "ban" has done and is doing and will do. It doesn't fucking matter if they call it a ban or not. All that matters is the effect it's having on people and companies and schools, etc, and everyone is paying close attention to that. Bitching about semantics isn't going to work this time mofos.

    Companies and schools? What effect?
    We can't even get a solid number on those detained at airports.
  • Why can't they just call it the 12%?
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  • Why can't they just call it the 12%?

    Before you post make sure you do your homework.
    It is the 12.2%.
    cmon man,
  • Why can't they just call it the 12%?

    Before you post make sure you do your homework.
    It is the 12.2%.
    cmon man,
    I stand corrected.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Kissinger: Before the Freedom of Information Act, I used to say at
    meetings, "The illegal we do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a
    little longer." [laughter] But since the Freedom of Information Act,
    I'm afraid to say things like that.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited February 2017
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Liz Warren
    Let me repeat: the @POTUS fired the nation’s top law enforcement officer for refusing to defend an illegal, unconstitutional, immoral order.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited February 2017
    https://theintercept.com/2016/06/22/dramatic-house-sit-in-on-guns-is-undercut-by-focus-on-secret-racist-watchlist/

    Is this "profiling"?
    I wonder what happened to the innocent people that were on this no fly list when they tried to board a flight?

    https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-if-you-think-youre-no-fly-list
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    edited February 2017
    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Apparently they think they can now distract people by focusing on the word "ban". Too late - the toothpaste can't be put back in the tube. We all know what the "ban" has done and is doing and will do. It doesn't fucking matter if they call it a ban or not. All that matters is the effect it's having on people and companies and schools, etc, and everyone is paying close attention to that. Bitching about semantics isn't going to work this time mofos.

    Companies and schools? What effect?
    We can't even get a solid number on those detained at airports.

    Here is what the CEO of Google says about it. This kind of concern is being felt by many, many US businesses, and many business around the world. http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/28/google-chief-sundar-pichai-chides-trump-over-immigration-order-affecting-nearly-200-staffers.html

    And here is an article about how it impacts universities when it comes to all their international students from those countries (I work at a university and I have already talked to two colleague who personally know someone who is (was) studying/participating in research work in the US who have been unable to reenter. The effects of Trump's ban have been serious and immediate for many people. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/universities-grappling-with-impact-of-trumps-refugee-ban/2017/01/29/a8adfcea-e639-11e6-80c2-30e57e57e05d_story.html?utm_term=.cba92295c58b

    At the university I work at alone, 450 students plus many faculty, researchers and staff who have been directly affected by the ban, and we're just a medium sized university with 20,000 students or so. The ban is disrupting international studies, work placements, competitions, field visits, research partnerships, conference participation, and family relationships. Universities have global relationships, so yeah, the impact is definitely being felt.
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  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    edited February 2017
    I read the following on the ACLU Nationwide Facebook feed:

    50 ACLU affiliates filed 18 coordinated Freedom of Information Act requests today with local U.S. Customs and Border Protection offices to expose how Trump administration officials are interpreting and executing the president’s Muslim ban at over 55 international airports across the country, acting in violation of federal courts that ordered a stay on the ban’s implementation.

    “It is imperative that the public learn if federal immigration officials are blatantly defying nationwide federal court orders that block President Trump’s unconstitutional Muslim ban,” said Mitra Ebadolahi, Border Litigation Project Staff Attorney with the ACLU of San Diego and Imperial Counties. “To shed light on this critical issue of pressing public concern, 50 ACLU affiliates are using the Freedom of Information Act to expose Customs and Border Protection’s abuse of power.”

    Media reports indicate that CBP officials detained and deported individuals, even after federal courts ordered officials to stop enforcing the executive order following a court challenge from the ACLU and other organizations.

    The Trump administration has yet to inform the public of how many refugees, visa holders, and legal permanent residents have been affected by this action.

    The following ACLU affiliates participated in this coordinated FOIA filing:
    Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Northern California, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, San Diego, California, South Carolina, Southern California, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Washington, D.C., West Virginia, Wisconsin
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    dignin said:
    Best news all week! Thank you, US Constitution
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458

    dignin said:
    Best news all week! Thank you, US Constitution
    Shhhh! You'll disturb the Don's beauty sleep. He's had a fascist last two weeks and is trying to rest at the "winter" WH.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,518

    dignin said:
    Best news all week! Thank you, US Constitution
    Andy Borowitz.....

    BREAKING: Trump Asks What This 'Constitution' Thing Is That People Keep Bringing Up
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458

    dignin said:
    Best news all week! Thank you, US Constitution
    Andy Borowitz.....

    BREAKING: Trump Asks What This 'Constitution' Thing Is That People Keep Bringing Up
    He's been pretty on point with the satire.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
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