Text of Muslim Ban Executive Order in a few posts
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Well, ok.Kat said:
Mischaracterizing my rights as feelings doesn't contribute to an honest discussion. I'm done.unsung said:
Exactly. Your feelings don't trump my rights.Kat said:
The Constitution has always been a work in progress...the experiment that is America...that is slipping way.unsung said:
Thanks for the laugh.Kat said:Yes, it looks like it'll be up to the Judicial Branch to be the firewall to protect the Constitution and our Bill of Rights, etc. Next we'll be hearing about how all the judges and lawyers are sleazy, bought off, etc. The administration will attempt to undermine those tell them they're doing it all wrong.
Remember that C word the next time you talk about my gun rights.
I mourn 93 additional dead Americans today.
There is a reasonable place between someone's right to have guns and people's right to be safe and not be victimized. One doesn't trump the other and the founding fathers never imagined what's going on today.
https://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-by-the-numbers/
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It's not a ban.
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer is insisting President Donald Trump's immigration order should not be referred to as a travel "ban." That's despite the fact the president has called it that himself.
Spicer says during a press briefing that, "When we use words like travel ban that misrepresents what it is." He says "a ban would mean people can't get in."
Trump's policy bars the entry of nationals from seven majority-Muslim countries for 90 days and temporarily suspends the country's refugee program.
Trump himself referred to his order as "the ban" in a Monday tweet.
Spicer says Trump was only using the media's words.
http://www.nptelegraph.com/news/politics/the-latest-spicer-says-travel-ban-shouldn-t-be-called/article_f8fc9f77-3521-5866-8d98-75aafc605074.html0 -
Apparently they think they can now distract people by focusing on the word "ban". Too late - the toothpaste can't be put back in the tube. We all know what the "ban" has done and is doing and will do. It doesn't fucking matter if they call it a ban or not. All that matters is the effect it's having on people and companies and schools, etc, and everyone is paying close attention to that. Bitching about semantics isn't going to work this time mofos.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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Companies and schools? What effect?PJ_Soul said:Apparently they think they can now distract people by focusing on the word "ban". Too late - the toothpaste can't be put back in the tube. We all know what the "ban" has done and is doing and will do. It doesn't fucking matter if they call it a ban or not. All that matters is the effect it's having on people and companies and schools, etc, and everyone is paying close attention to that. Bitching about semantics isn't going to work this time mofos.
We can't even get a solid number on those detained at airports.0 -
Why can't they just call it the 12%?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Before you post make sure you do your homework.Halifax2TheMax said:Why can't they just call it the 12%?
It is the 12.2%.
cmon man,0 -
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I stand corrected.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Before you post make sure you do your homework.Halifax2TheMax said:Why can't they just call it the 12%?
It is the 12.2%.
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Kissinger: Before the Freedom of Information Act, I used to say at
meetings, "The illegal we do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a
little longer." [laughter] But since the Freedom of Information Act,
I'm afraid to say things like that.0 -
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/elderly-iraqi-woman-dies-trump-travel-ban-article-1.2961110
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https://theintercept.com/2016/06/22/dramatic-house-sit-in-on-guns-is-undercut-by-focus-on-secret-racist-watchlist/
Is this "profiling"?
I wonder what happened to the innocent people that were on this no fly list when they tried to board a flight?
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-if-you-think-youre-no-fly-listPost edited by JC29856 on0 -
JC29856 said:
Companies and schools? What effect?PJ_Soul said:Apparently they think they can now distract people by focusing on the word "ban". Too late - the toothpaste can't be put back in the tube. We all know what the "ban" has done and is doing and will do. It doesn't fucking matter if they call it a ban or not. All that matters is the effect it's having on people and companies and schools, etc, and everyone is paying close attention to that. Bitching about semantics isn't going to work this time mofos.
We can't even get a solid number on those detained at airports.
Here is what the CEO of Google says about it. This kind of concern is being felt by many, many US businesses, and many business around the world. http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/28/google-chief-sundar-pichai-chides-trump-over-immigration-order-affecting-nearly-200-staffers.html
And here is an article about how it impacts universities when it comes to all their international students from those countries (I work at a university and I have already talked to two colleague who personally know someone who is (was) studying/participating in research work in the US who have been unable to reenter. The effects of Trump's ban have been serious and immediate for many people. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/universities-grappling-with-impact-of-trumps-refugee-ban/2017/01/29/a8adfcea-e639-11e6-80c2-30e57e57e05d_story.html?utm_term=.cba92295c58b
At the university I work at alone, 450 students plus many faculty, researchers and staff who have been directly affected by the ban, and we're just a medium sized university with 20,000 students or so. The ban is disrupting international studies, work placements, competitions, field visits, research partnerships, conference participation, and family relationships. Universities have global relationships, so yeah, the impact is definitely being felt.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I read the following on the ACLU Nationwide Facebook feed:
50 ACLU affiliates filed 18 coordinated Freedom of Information Act requests today with local U.S. Customs and Border Protection offices to expose how Trump administration officials are interpreting and executing the president’s Muslim ban at over 55 international airports across the country, acting in violation of federal courts that ordered a stay on the ban’s implementation.
“It is imperative that the public learn if federal immigration officials are blatantly defying nationwide federal court orders that block President Trump’s unconstitutional Muslim ban,” said Mitra Ebadolahi, Border Litigation Project Staff Attorney with the ACLU of San Diego and Imperial Counties. “To shed light on this critical issue of pressing public concern, 50 ACLU affiliates are using the Freedom of Information Act to expose Customs and Border Protection’s abuse of power.”
Media reports indicate that CBP officials detained and deported individuals, even after federal courts ordered officials to stop enforcing the executive order following a court challenge from the ACLU and other organizations.
The Trump administration has yet to inform the public of how many refugees, visa holders, and legal permanent residents have been affected by this action.
The following ACLU affiliates participated in this coordinated FOIA filing:
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Northern California, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, San Diego, California, South Carolina, Southern California, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Washington, D.C., West Virginia, WisconsinPost edited by Ms. Haiku onThere is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird0 -
Federal judge temporarily halts Trump travel ban nationwide
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/federal-judge-temporarily-halts-trump-travel-ban-nationwide-ag-says/index.html0 -
Best news all week! Thank you, US Constitutiondignin said:Federal judge temporarily halts Trump travel ban nationwide
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/federal-judge-temporarily-halts-trump-travel-ban-nationwide-ag-says/index.html0 -
Shhhh! You'll disturb the Don's beauty sleep. He's had a fascist last two weeks and is trying to rest at the "winter" WH.Go Beavers said:
Best news all week! Thank you, US Constitutiondignin said:Federal judge temporarily halts Trump travel ban nationwide
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/federal-judge-temporarily-halts-trump-travel-ban-nationwide-ag-says/index.htmlIt's a hopeless situation...0 -
Andy Borowitz.....Go Beavers said:
Best news all week! Thank you, US Constitutiondignin said:Federal judge temporarily halts Trump travel ban nationwide
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/federal-judge-temporarily-halts-trump-travel-ban-nationwide-ag-says/index.html
BREAKING: Trump Asks What This 'Constitution' Thing Is That People Keep Bringing Up0 -
He's been pretty on point with the satire.Bentleyspop said:
Andy Borowitz.....Go Beavers said:
Best news all week! Thank you, US Constitutiondignin said:Federal judge temporarily halts Trump travel ban nationwide
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/federal-judge-temporarily-halts-trump-travel-ban-nationwide-ag-says/index.html
BREAKING: Trump Asks What This 'Constitution' Thing Is That People Keep Bringing UpIt's a hopeless situation...0 -
Yay!dignin said:Federal judge temporarily halts Trump travel ban nationwide
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/federal-judge-temporarily-halts-trump-travel-ban-nationwide-ag-says/index.htmlThere is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird0
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