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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    unsung said:

    So are you telling me when a person tries to board a flight or go through customs they are not asked for a passport but instead what religion they are?

    the intent behind it is clear, and has been stated by the person who constructed the ban. FACT.
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  • unsung
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    edited February 2017
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    unsung said:

    So are you telling me when a person tries to board a flight or go through customs they are not asked for a passport but instead what religion they are?

    the intent behind it is clear, and has been stated by the person who constructed the ban. FACT.
    You didn't answer the question.

    If the people are being asked their religion it is an issue. But if their passports are the deciding document then there is not.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    unsung said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    unsung said:

    So are you telling me when a person tries to board a flight or go through customs they are not asked for a passport but instead what religion they are?

    the intent behind it is clear, and has been stated by the person who constructed the ban. FACT.
    You didn't answer the question.

    If the people are being asked their religion it is an issue. But if their passports are the deciding document then there is not.

    it's the wrong question. during the ban, NO ONE was being permitted to board a flight from any of those countries. the people being detained who were already en route were asked their religion, and their thoughts on Trump as president.

    and, the ban document reads that exceptions will be made for those being persecuted for their religion, but ONLY IF THEIR RELIGION IS A MINORITY IN THEIR REGION. what do you think that means? that means no exceptions will be made for muslims, only christians.

    come on, man, you can't seriously believe this shit the right is feeding you?
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Right is feeding me? Sorry bud, I don't watch TV.

    I fully support a ban, based on home country. It is long overdue and hasn't gone far enough.

    But I am also the guy that would eliminate all foreign aid and bring our troops home. All of them.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    unsung said:

    Right is feeding me? Sorry bud, I don't watch TV.

    I fully support a ban, based on home country. It is long overdue and hasn't gone far enough.

    But I am also the guy that would eliminate all foreign aid and bring our troops home. All of them.

    I see you didn't address any of the other content that proved you were incorrect.
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  • unsung
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    edited February 2017
    We've been down this path. I don't care what Rudy 9/11 says or thinks. It won't matter in court.

  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    unsung said:

    We've been down this path. I don't care what Rudy 9/11 says or thinks. It won't matter in court.

    What trump has said will absolutely be a factor in court.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    We've been down this path. I don't care what Rudy 9/11 says or thinks. It won't matter in court.

    What trump has said will absolutely be a factor in court.
    fact.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    We will see.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    unsung said:

    We will see.

    we can agree on that much at least. time will tell. no one person is above the law.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Last weeks episode of This American Life is pretty heartbreaking.

    This week we document what happened when the President’s executive order went into effect temporarily banning travel from seven countries, and we talk about the way it was implemented. A major policy change thrown into the world like a fastball with no warning. It’s hard not to ask: “What just happened? What was that all about?”

    https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/609/it’s-working-out-very-nicely
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    unsung said:

    We've been down this path. I don't care what Rudy 9/11 says or thinks. It won't matter in court.

    I know the facts are inconvenient to your opinion.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    unsung said:

    We will see.

    If/when they argue as to whether the EO is constitutional or not, an AG will argue that discriminating based on religion is unconstitutional.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    We will see.

    If/when they argue as to whether the EO is constitutional or not, an AG will argue that discriminating based on religion is unconstitutional.
    Bingo.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Was this already posted here? Covering the same material.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/02/07/words-matter-trumps-loose-talk-about-muslims-gets-weaponized-in-court-against-travel-ban/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw14&wpmm=1
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  • unsung
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    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    We will see.

    If/when they argue as to whether the EO is constitutional or not, an AG will argue that discriminating based on religion is unconstitutional.
    Well maybe they can revise it to include SA and other terrorist breeding grounds. Up the count to 40 or so.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Great news

    9th Circuit rules against reinstating travel ban

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/09/politics/travel-ban-9th-circuit-ruling/index.html?adkey=bn
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    dignin said:

    Great news

    9th Circuit rules against reinstating travel ban

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/09/politics/travel-ban-9th-circuit-ruling/index.html?adkey=bn

    awesome news
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  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    On the ACLU WA (@ACLU_WA) Twitter feed one post (6:28 pm (EST), 09 Feb 17) includes the write-up of the decision. Its an interesting read. I skimmed it because of all the previous case listings.
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Ms. Haiku said:

    On the ACLU WA (@ACLU_WA) Twitter feed one post (6:28 pm (EST), 09 Feb 17) includes the write-up of the decision. Its an interesting read. I skimmed it because of all the previous case listings.

    thanks for the heads-up! reading it now
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