Text of Muslim Ban Executive Order in a few posts
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From Global Citizen:unsung said:
Based on country, not religion.Halifax2TheMax said:
According to JC, 12% of muslims are banned.unsung said:
Fake news. Muslims are not banned.Halifax2TheMax said:Ms. Haiku said:Heather Richardson, Professor of History, Boston College wrote in a Twitter thread that this Executive Order is a "shock event." That it causes chaos to ultimately get what Trump wants which is Sessions elected. She has a long Twitter thread for this, but this following tweet is part of it.
https://twitter.com/womanistpsych
Jefferson Sessions being received as the acceptable one, as head of DOJ, to restore order to Bannon's generated chaos is one of the setups.
Do you think this is a shock event, and that Sessions as AG could be the goal?
I'm not completely convinced that this is a "shock event." It looks like Trump is doing what he said he would do. I think the Executive Order for the wall could be considered a shock event as well, but putting a wall up was part of his presidential campaign.
So was banning Muslims.
Countries that Obama picked.
None of you protested when he froze visas.
This policy orders the:
• Complete suspension of travel from seven predominantly Muslim nationalities — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen. This includes dual-nationals, green card holders, and most visa-holders.
• Full suspension of US refugee program for 120 days as new “extreme vetting” rules are developed, even though America already has the toughest vetting program for refugees in the world.
• Halving America’s refugee intake to a maximum of 50,000 annually, with a complete ban on admitting refugees from war-torn Syria.
• Exemption for those of a “minority religion” in each of these countries — a phrase that can only be interpreted to exclude Muslims on the basis of their religion.
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Donald J. Trump Statement on Preventing Muslim Immigration
(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing "25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad" and 51% of those polled, "agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah." Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won't convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.
Mr. Trump stated, "Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again." - Donald J. Trump
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration0 -
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Oh no!Halifax2TheMax said:
From Global Citizen:unsung said:
Based on country, not religion.Halifax2TheMax said:
According to JC, 12% of muslims are banned.unsung said:
Fake news. Muslims are not banned.Halifax2TheMax said:Ms. Haiku said:Heather Richardson, Professor of History, Boston College wrote in a Twitter thread that this Executive Order is a "shock event." That it causes chaos to ultimately get what Trump wants which is Sessions elected. She has a long Twitter thread for this, but this following tweet is part of it.
https://twitter.com/womanistpsych
Jefferson Sessions being received as the acceptable one, as head of DOJ, to restore order to Bannon's generated chaos is one of the setups.
Do you think this is a shock event, and that Sessions as AG could be the goal?
I'm not completely convinced that this is a "shock event." It looks like Trump is doing what he said he would do. I think the Executive Order for the wall could be considered a shock event as well, but putting a wall up was part of his presidential campaign.
So was banning Muslims.
Countries that Obama picked.
None of you protested when he froze visas.
This policy orders the:
• Complete suspension of travel from seven predominantly Muslim nationalities — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen. This includes dual-nationals, green card holders, and most visa-holders.
• Full suspension of US refugee program for 120 days as new “extreme vetting” rules are developed, even though America already has the toughest vetting program for refugees in the world.
• Halving America’s refugee intake to a maximum of 50,000 annually, with a complete ban on admitting refugees from war-torn Syria.
• Exemption for those of a “minority religion” in each of these countries — a phrase that can only be interpreted to exclude Muslims on the basis of their religion.
There is an exemption for that Iranian filmaker too!
Oh the humanity!Post edited by unsung on0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Double post0
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So you're defending misguided government policy? Oh the irony!unsung said:
Oh no!Halifax2TheMax said:
From Global Citizen:unsung said:
Based on country, not religion.Halifax2TheMax said:
According to JC, 12% of muslims are banned.unsung said:
Fake news. Muslims are not banned.Halifax2TheMax said:Ms. Haiku said:Heather Richardson, Professor of History, Boston College wrote in a Twitter thread that this Executive Order is a "shock event." That it causes chaos to ultimately get what Trump wants which is Sessions elected. She has a long Twitter thread for this, but this following tweet is part of it.
https://twitter.com/womanistpsych
Jefferson Sessions being received as the acceptable one, as head of DOJ, to restore order to Bannon's generated chaos is one of the setups.
Do you think this is a shock event, and that Sessions as AG could be the goal?
I'm not completely convinced that this is a "shock event." It looks like Trump is doing what he said he would do. I think the Executive Order for the wall could be considered a shock event as well, but putting a wall up was part of his presidential campaign.
So was banning Muslims.
Countries that Obama picked.
None of you protested when he froze visas.
This policy orders the:
• Complete suspension of travel from seven predominantly Muslim nationalities — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen. This includes dual-nationals, green card holders, and most visa-holders.
• Full suspension of US refugee program for 120 days as new “extreme vetting” rules are developed, even though America already has the toughest vetting program for refugees in the world.
• Halving America’s refugee intake to a maximum of 50,000 annually, with a complete ban on admitting refugees from war-torn Syria.
• Exemption for those of a “minority religion” in each of these countries — a phrase that can only be interpreted to exclude Muslims on the basis of their religion.
There is an exemption for that Iranian filmaker too!
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Sean Spicer is right. That five-year-old refugee has diabolical plans.JC29856 said:
maybe he has priors, was he was previously detained by Israel for throwing stones at IDFs?dignin said:White House claims five-year-old boy detained in US airport for hours 'could have posed a security threat'
The little boy is reportedly a US citizen who lives with his mother in Maryland
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/white-house-five-year-old-boy-detained-dulles-international-airport-hours-sean-spicer-pose-security-a7554521.html?cmpid=facebook-post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2017/01/30/sean-spicer-is-right-that-five-year-old-refugee-has-diabolical-plans/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.26d0894772140 -
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=10793dignin said:
Sean Spicer is right. That five-year-old refugee has diabolical plans.JC29856 said:
maybe he has priors, was he was previously detained by Israel for throwing stones at IDFs?dignin said:White House claims five-year-old boy detained in US airport for hours 'could have posed a security threat'
The little boy is reportedly a US citizen who lives with his mother in Maryland
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/white-house-five-year-old-boy-detained-dulles-international-airport-hours-sean-spicer-pose-security-a7554521.html?cmpid=facebook-post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2017/01/30/sean-spicer-is-right-that-five-year-old-refugee-has-diabolical-plans/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.26d089477214
Just watch this video...5 year old boy jumps up and down and cries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxL-RIH2OQQ
Spicer:
“That’s why we slow it down and make sure that if they are a five year old that maybe they’re with their parents and they don’t pose a threat. . . . To assume that just because of someone’s age or gender or whatever that they don’t pose a threat would be wrong”Post edited by JC29856 on0 -
obama singled out those countries for higher scrutiny. he didn't ban anyone. trump's all-encompassing ban took it 100 steps further. and he kept it at obama's countries so he could have an easy out, like all republicans of the last 8 years, "obama did it!".unsung said:
Actually Obama picked the countries.HughFreakingDillon said:
probably because Bannon was in the room when he wrote it. trump was afraid of the big bad nazi.tbergs said:
I'm unsure about the tweet wording controversy. They have admitted it was left out intentionally, but I question if it was done to be more inclusive as they say, since they have taken a divisive approach on every other topic. The problem with this administration is that they lie so much it's hard to know what's really going on.bootlegger10 said:
Yeah, I think this particular issue (Holocaust tweet) is a phony media/left attack job only. Certainly, the immigrant ban is something that you can strongly disagree with.Go Beavers said:
It was an intentional omission. Now as to why, that's left up to the individual.bootlegger10 said:
I think the outrage to the tweet is a stretch. I think when you bring up the Holocaust it implies the victims were the Jews. Trump wants to move the embassy to Jerusalem so I don't think the administration is anti-Israel.tbergs said:
Kind of like how they left "Jews" out of the post paying respect to the "innocents" of the Holocaust. In Trump's world, if you don't utter the phrases then you have plausible deniability that you supported a certain stance with your base supporters while making those who read between the line sound like they are the one's being irrational and insensitive.Release Mii said:
Its right here:JC29856 said:Funny...I don't see the word Muslim anywhere in the text, nor do I see any country listed other than Syria.
If that is a Muslim ban, Trump excluded countries that comprise about 90% of worldwide Muslims.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country
(c) To temporarily reduce investigative burdens on relevant agencies during the review period described in subsection (a) of this section, to ensure the proper review and maximum utilization of available resources for the screening of foreign nationals, and to ensure that adequate standards are established to prevent infiltration by foreign terrorists or criminals, pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f)
And this isn't a Muslim ban, otherwise the country with the largest Muslim population (Indonesia) would be included.
oh wait, it wasn't all-encompassing. it exempts "people who are being persecuted for their religion, but only if that religion is a minority religion in that region". guess what that means? "come on, Christians! you're allowed in! Muslims? fuck you!"
these idiots like trump and spicer also claiming if they had given the agencies notice, "bad dudes" would have flooded in". the vetting system is currently 18-24 months. they are liars and fucking idiots.they couldn't have just bought a plane ticket on friday and blown up the WH on sunday.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
so the green card holders who LIVE and have JOBS and SCHOOL in the US and are now stranded in foreign countries for MONTHS "don't matter"? only the people that were detained at the airports? how fucking backwards is that?JC29856 said:
Thanks for the info, but I was looking for the actual number of people detained due to the illegal and unconstitutional Muslim ban, not affected.dignin said:
Fact check: White House claims 109 affected by travel ban - it's more like 90,000JC29856 said:What's the number of travelers that were actually detained at airports? WH says 109.
(1 is too many but I'm trying to get a solid number of those detained at US airports)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-fact-check-people-affected-by-travel-ban-20170130-story.html
Since the AG and federal judges blocked the order, Im curious to know how many slam dunk law suits will be won against Trump and the justice department for the illegal and unconstitutional detainment and/or deportation of Muslims.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
did you happen to see Guiliani's interview? he stated precisely that Trump asked him how to legally construct a muslim ban. he said it more than once, that yes, this is indeed a muslim ban. and it was guiliani's making.unsung said:
Based on country, not religion.Halifax2TheMax said:
According to JC, 12% of muslims are banned.unsung said:
Fake news. Muslims are not banned.Halifax2TheMax said:Ms. Haiku said:Heather Richardson, Professor of History, Boston College wrote in a Twitter thread that this Executive Order is a "shock event." That it causes chaos to ultimately get what Trump wants which is Sessions elected. She has a long Twitter thread for this, but this following tweet is part of it.
https://twitter.com/womanistpsych
Jefferson Sessions being received as the acceptable one, as head of DOJ, to restore order to Bannon's generated chaos is one of the setups.
Do you think this is a shock event, and that Sessions as AG could be the goal?
I'm not completely convinced that this is a "shock event." It looks like Trump is doing what he said he would do. I think the Executive Order for the wall could be considered a shock event as well, but putting a wall up was part of his presidential campaign.
So was banning Muslims.
Countries that Obama picked.
None of you protested when he froze visas.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
If you believe in online polling, this one indicates that americans on split on the immigration ban. This one does account for those unaffiliated with D or R.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/january_2017/most_support_temporary_ban_on_newcomers_from_terrorist_havens0 -
the last elections shows us that polls are worthless. although, when they favour trump, he seems to believe them all of a sudden.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
No, but I really don't care about what Rudy 9/11 has to say.HughFreakingDillon said:
did you happen to see Guiliani's interview? he stated precisely that Trump asked him how to legally construct a muslim ban. he said it more than once, that yes, this is indeed a muslim ban. and it was guiliani's making.unsung said:
Based on country, not religion.Halifax2TheMax said:
According to JC, 12% of muslims are banned.unsung said:
Fake news. Muslims are not banned.Halifax2TheMax said:Ms. Haiku said:Heather Richardson, Professor of History, Boston College wrote in a Twitter thread that this Executive Order is a "shock event." That it causes chaos to ultimately get what Trump wants which is Sessions elected. She has a long Twitter thread for this, but this following tweet is part of it.
https://twitter.com/womanistpsych
Jefferson Sessions being received as the acceptable one, as head of DOJ, to restore order to Bannon's generated chaos is one of the setups.
Do you think this is a shock event, and that Sessions as AG could be the goal?
I'm not completely convinced that this is a "shock event." It looks like Trump is doing what he said he would do. I think the Executive Order for the wall could be considered a shock event as well, but putting a wall up was part of his presidential campaign.
So was banning Muslims.
Countries that Obama picked.
None of you protested when he froze visas.0 -
then you aren't informed. he's the one who came up with the plan, and he stated on the record that trump asked him to implement a muslim ban.unsung said:
No, but I really don't care about what Rudy 9/11 has to say.HughFreakingDillon said:
did you happen to see Guiliani's interview? he stated precisely that Trump asked him how to legally construct a muslim ban. he said it more than once, that yes, this is indeed a muslim ban. and it was guiliani's making.unsung said:
Based on country, not religion.Halifax2TheMax said:
According to JC, 12% of muslims are banned.unsung said:
Fake news. Muslims are not banned.Halifax2TheMax said:Ms. Haiku said:Heather Richardson, Professor of History, Boston College wrote in a Twitter thread that this Executive Order is a "shock event." That it causes chaos to ultimately get what Trump wants which is Sessions elected. She has a long Twitter thread for this, but this following tweet is part of it.
https://twitter.com/womanistpsych
Jefferson Sessions being received as the acceptable one, as head of DOJ, to restore order to Bannon's generated chaos is one of the setups.
Do you think this is a shock event, and that Sessions as AG could be the goal?
I'm not completely convinced that this is a "shock event." It looks like Trump is doing what he said he would do. I think the Executive Order for the wall could be considered a shock event as well, but putting a wall up was part of his presidential campaign.
So was banning Muslims.
Countries that Obama picked.
None of you protested when he froze visas.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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Misguided? No, clearly that is one function that the federal government is authorized to do. It doesn't go far enough.Go Beavers said:
So you're defending misguided government policy? Oh the irony!unsung said:
Oh no!Halifax2TheMax said:
From Global Citizen:unsung said:
Based on country, not religion.Halifax2TheMax said:
According to JC, 12% of muslims are banned.unsung said:
Fake news. Muslims are not banned.Halifax2TheMax said:Ms. Haiku said:Heather Richardson, Professor of History, Boston College wrote in a Twitter thread that this Executive Order is a "shock event." That it causes chaos to ultimately get what Trump wants which is Sessions elected. She has a long Twitter thread for this, but this following tweet is part of it.
https://twitter.com/womanistpsych
Jefferson Sessions being received as the acceptable one, as head of DOJ, to restore order to Bannon's generated chaos is one of the setups.
Do you think this is a shock event, and that Sessions as AG could be the goal?
I'm not completely convinced that this is a "shock event." It looks like Trump is doing what he said he would do. I think the Executive Order for the wall could be considered a shock event as well, but putting a wall up was part of his presidential campaign.
So was banning Muslims.
Countries that Obama picked.
None of you protested when he froze visas.
This policy orders the:
• Complete suspension of travel from seven predominantly Muslim nationalities — Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen. This includes dual-nationals, green card holders, and most visa-holders.
• Full suspension of US refugee program for 120 days as new “extreme vetting” rules are developed, even though America already has the toughest vetting program for refugees in the world.
• Halving America’s refugee intake to a maximum of 50,000 annually, with a complete ban on admitting refugees from war-torn Syria.
• Exemption for those of a “minority religion” in each of these countries — a phrase that can only be interpreted to exclude Muslims on the basis of their religion.
There is an exemption for that Iranian filmaker too!
Oh the humanity!
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Rasmussen almost always leans right, and the question they asked suggested there's no vetting process currently, so that makes this poll invalid.JC29856 said:If you believe in online polling, this one indicates that americans on split on the immigration ban. This one does account for those unaffiliated with D or R.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/january_2017/most_support_temporary_ban_on_newcomers_from_terrorist_havens0 -
Thanks you for a great example of critical thinking. Always look at the question being asked in a poll.Go Beavers said:
Rasmussen almost always leans right, and the question they asked suggested there's no vetting process currently, so that makes this poll invalid.JC29856 said:If you believe in online polling, this one indicates that americans on split on the immigration ban. This one does account for those unaffiliated with D or R.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/january_2017/most_support_temporary_ban_on_newcomers_from_terrorist_havens0 -
Trump using the "vetting lapse" excuse to ban Muslims.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-syria-refugees-vetting-gap-20170125-story.html0 -
Could have serious potential
900 state department employees issue dissent to immigration ban
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15F2KP0
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