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Fair and that is proper introspection which appears to be lacking. The base of the democratic party seems to think you need a more progressive and/or radical candidate.rgambs said:
You are lumping me in with everyone else, understandable, but I wasn't at all confident that Clinton would win because I live in yokel territory. I also have reevaluated the progressive position and come to some serious conclusions, mostly surrounding the fact that the country is not as progressive as we thought it was and the more radical faction, which wouldn't accept a deeply flawed candidate, has seriously damaged the country by allowing a clown to become POTUS.BS44325 said:
But you clearly don't have a feel. Your analysis of how the election would play out was wrong. The same goes for 99% of the AMT. Being wrong though hasn't caused a single person to reevaluate. The echo chamber continues.rgambs said:
Again with the academic from Canada telling middle Americans how middle Americans feel and what they think lolBS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
You are welcome to come to my house in the country and I will introduce you to some Trump voters so you can get a personal feel for what's up.0 -
This is not an unbiased analysis.BS44325 said:
Not "obviously worse" and nothing has been proven. There is a psychological need on here to declare Trump a failure when nothing but job growth has even happened yet. You insisited he wouldn't be elected and he was. You insisted he would be a failure. You need him to be a failure. He must fail. Your psychological well-beings depend on it!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
And with some self proclaimed academics insisting the election results speak to a level of profoundness among the general public supporting Trump.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
BS... once again... the results speak to the fact that, among a few items, many people thought Trump was going to make America great again because he said he would.
Let's not forget that part of making America great again was to target minority groups which bigots frothed at the mouth over.
A vote for change isn't electing a billionaire and thinking things will change. Yes... Clinton was a horrible candidate, but Trump was obviously worse and he's proving so every day.
You judged Obama harshly on your perceptions of international opinions and morale and yet you give Trump a pass, so far.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
No.BS44325 said:
Not "obviously worse" and nothing has been proven. There is a psychological need on here to declare Trump a failure when nothing but job growth has even happened yet. You insisited he wouldn't be elected and he was. You insisted he would be a failure. You need him to be a failure. He must fail. Your psychological well-beings depend on it!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
And with some self proclaimed academics insisting the election results speak to a level of profoundness among the general public supporting Trump.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
BS... once again... the results speak to the fact that, among a few items, many people thought Trump was going to make America great again because he said he would.
Let's not forget that part of making America great again was to target minority groups which bigots frothed at the mouth over.
A vote for change isn't electing a billionaire and thinking things will change. Yes... Clinton was a horrible candidate, but Trump was obviously worse and he's proving so every day.
Your last three silly statements: no."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Are you a professor of psychology?BS44325 said:
Not "obviously worse" and nothing has been proven. There is a psychological need on here to declare Trump a failure when nothing but job growth has even happened yet. You insisited he wouldn't be elected and he was. You insisted he would be a failure. You need him to be a failure. He must fail. Your psychological well-beings depend on it!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
And with some self proclaimed academics insisting the election results speak to a level of profoundness among the general public supporting Trump.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
BS... once again... the results speak to the fact that, among a few items, many people thought Trump was going to make America great again because he said he would.
Let's not forget that part of making America great again was to target minority groups which bigots frothed at the mouth over.
A vote for change isn't electing a billionaire and thinking things will change. Yes... Clinton was a horrible candidate, but Trump was obviously worse and he's proving so every day.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Businesses plan ahead. The morning after election day the business environment changed due to the pending lifting of regulatory burdens which have only just begun. There will be plenty more growth to come.Halifax2TheMax said:
And 227,000 jobs were created. And Trump took credit. Two weeks in office. Funny, but what opportunity is Trump going to bring back or allow access to? What barriers are there to improving ones life? Please explain.BS44325 said:
Again incorrect. That was the Obama platform. That was hope and change. It failed. Middle and lower class voters flipped from blue to red not because Trump would improve their lives but because he will remove barriers to opportunity which prevent these voters from improving their own lives. They are not looking for a federal government issued handout. They see federal government and their agencies as the problem...not the solution. Fourth quarter growth under Obama was an anemic 1.6%...those kind of results were no longer acceptable.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
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No but I did get my Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from the University of Western Ontario.Halifax2TheMax said:
Are you a professor of psychology?BS44325 said:
Not "obviously worse" and nothing has been proven. There is a psychological need on here to declare Trump a failure when nothing but job growth has even happened yet. You insisited he wouldn't be elected and he was. You insisted he would be a failure. You need him to be a failure. He must fail. Your psychological well-beings depend on it!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
And with some self proclaimed academics insisting the election results speak to a level of profoundness among the general public supporting Trump.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
BS... once again... the results speak to the fact that, among a few items, many people thought Trump was going to make America great again because he said he would.
Let's not forget that part of making America great again was to target minority groups which bigots frothed at the mouth over.
A vote for change isn't electing a billionaire and thinking things will change. Yes... Clinton was a horrible candidate, but Trump was obviously worse and he's proving so every day.0 -
Do you factor social regression at all?BS44325 said:
Businesses plan ahead. The morning after election day the business environment changed due to the pending lifting of regulatory burdens which have only just begun. There will be plenty more growth to come.Halifax2TheMax said:
And 227,000 jobs were created. And Trump took credit. Two weeks in office. Funny, but what opportunity is Trump going to bring back or allow access to? What barriers are there to improving ones life? Please explain.BS44325 said:
Again incorrect. That was the Obama platform. That was hope and change. It failed. Middle and lower class voters flipped from blue to red not because Trump would improve their lives but because he will remove barriers to opportunity which prevent these voters from improving their own lives. They are not looking for a federal government issued handout. They see federal government and their agencies as the problem...not the solution. Fourth quarter growth under Obama was an anemic 1.6%...those kind of results were no longer acceptable.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
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Well Obama's time is done so he can be judged. I certainly did not want Obama to win in 2008 but I did not judge him out of the gate. Second I have always been open to the possibility that Trump will be a failure...in fact I believe it to be likely.rgambs said:
This is not an unbiased analysis.BS44325 said:
Not "obviously worse" and nothing has been proven. There is a psychological need on here to declare Trump a failure when nothing but job growth has even happened yet. You insisited he wouldn't be elected and he was. You insisted he would be a failure. You need him to be a failure. He must fail. Your psychological well-beings depend on it!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
And with some self proclaimed academics insisting the election results speak to a level of profoundness among the general public supporting Trump.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
BS... once again... the results speak to the fact that, among a few items, many people thought Trump was going to make America great again because he said he would.
Let's not forget that part of making America great again was to target minority groups which bigots frothed at the mouth over.
A vote for change isn't electing a billionaire and thinking things will change. Yes... Clinton was a horrible candidate, but Trump was obviously worse and he's proving so every day.
You judged Obama harshly on your perceptions of international opinions and morale and yet you give Trump a pass, so far.0 -
Nope, just one that isn't so terrible as Clinton!BS44325 said:
Fair and that is proper introspection which appears to be lacking. The base of the democratic party seems to think you need a more progressive and/or radical candidate.rgambs said:
You are lumping me in with everyone else, understandable, but I wasn't at all confident that Clinton would win because I live in yokel territory. I also have reevaluated the progressive position and come to some serious conclusions, mostly surrounding the fact that the country is not as progressive as we thought it was and the more radical faction, which wouldn't accept a deeply flawed candidate, has seriously damaged the country by allowing a clown to become POTUS.BS44325 said:
But you clearly don't have a feel. Your analysis of how the election would play out was wrong. The same goes for 99% of the AMT. Being wrong though hasn't caused a single person to reevaluate. The echo chamber continues.rgambs said:
Again with the academic from Canada telling middle Americans how middle Americans feel and what they think lolBS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
You are welcome to come to my house in the country and I will introduce you to some Trump voters so you can get a personal feel for what's up.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I am not exactly sure what you mean?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Do you factor social regression at all?BS44325 said:
Businesses plan ahead. The morning after election day the business environment changed due to the pending lifting of regulatory burdens which have only just begun. There will be plenty more growth to come.Halifax2TheMax said:
And 227,000 jobs were created. And Trump took credit. Two weeks in office. Funny, but what opportunity is Trump going to bring back or allow access to? What barriers are there to improving ones life? Please explain.BS44325 said:
Again incorrect. That was the Obama platform. That was hope and change. It failed. Middle and lower class voters flipped from blue to red not because Trump would improve their lives but because he will remove barriers to opportunity which prevent these voters from improving their own lives. They are not looking for a federal government issued handout. They see federal government and their agencies as the problem...not the solution. Fourth quarter growth under Obama was an anemic 1.6%...those kind of results were no longer acceptable.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
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How are you coming to the conclusion that hope and change failed, because trump won? And how are you saying trump voters don't want handouts? Rural counties that vote red use public assistance at a very high rate. A lot are trying to cling to a rural/small town economy that is gone and not coming back. Maybe make America great again appealed to them because they think we can go back in time when that factory was open and when you could cut trees until there weren't any left. You're referencing job data, but trump voters haven't convinced me that they were looking at any factual data.BS44325 said:
Again incorrect. That was the Obama platform. That was hope and change. It failed. Middle and lower class voters flipped from blue to red not because Trump would improve their lives but because he will remove barriers to opportunity which prevent these voters from improving their own lives. They are not looking for a federal government issued handout. They see federal government and their agencies as the problem...not the solution. Fourth quarter growth under Obama was an anemic 1.6%...those kind of results were no longer acceptable.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
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Sure. Growth followed by an incredible crash and burn. Another tanked economy to benefit the few. I know, I've seen it before.BS44325 said:
Businesses plan ahead. The morning after election day the business environment changed due to the pending lifting of regulatory burdens which have only just begun. There will be plenty more growth to come.Halifax2TheMax said:
And 227,000 jobs were created. And Trump took credit. Two weeks in office. Funny, but what opportunity is Trump going to bring back or allow access to? What barriers are there to improving ones life? Please explain.BS44325 said:
Again incorrect. That was the Obama platform. That was hope and change. It failed. Middle and lower class voters flipped from blue to red not because Trump would improve their lives but because he will remove barriers to opportunity which prevent these voters from improving their own lives. They are not looking for a federal government issued handout. They see federal government and their agencies as the problem...not the solution. Fourth quarter growth under Obama was an anemic 1.6%...those kind of results were no longer acceptable.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
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That can't be it?! What about a platform? Obama exhausted the "feel good" speech. He was great at it...I am not being sarcastic...but nobody will come along who can do what he did. It was lightning in a bottle and the party is going to need more then just being Not Trump.rgambs said:
Nope, just one that isn't so terrible as Clinton!BS44325 said:
Fair and that is proper introspection which appears to be lacking. The base of the democratic party seems to think you need a more progressive and/or radical candidate.rgambs said:
You are lumping me in with everyone else, understandable, but I wasn't at all confident that Clinton would win because I live in yokel territory. I also have reevaluated the progressive position and come to some serious conclusions, mostly surrounding the fact that the country is not as progressive as we thought it was and the more radical faction, which wouldn't accept a deeply flawed candidate, has seriously damaged the country by allowing a clown to become POTUS.BS44325 said:
But you clearly don't have a feel. Your analysis of how the election would play out was wrong. The same goes for 99% of the AMT. Being wrong though hasn't caused a single person to reevaluate. The echo chamber continues.rgambs said:
Again with the academic from Canada telling middle Americans how middle Americans feel and what they think lolBS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
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Again look to elections at the state and local level. These people are rejecting your party. This happened before Trump. It will continue after.Go Beavers said:
How are you coming to the conclusion that hope and change failed, because trump won? And how are you saying trump voters don't want handouts? Rural counties that vote red use public assistance at a very high rate. A lot are trying to cling to a rural/small town economy that is gone and not coming back. Maybe make America great again appealed to them because they think we can go back in time when that factory was open and when you could cut trees until there weren't any left. You're referencing job data, but trump voters haven't convinced me that they were looking at any factual data.BS44325 said:
Again incorrect. That was the Obama platform. That was hope and change. It failed. Middle and lower class voters flipped from blue to red not because Trump would improve their lives but because he will remove barriers to opportunity which prevent these voters from improving their own lives. They are not looking for a federal government issued handout. They see federal government and their agencies as the problem...not the solution. Fourth quarter growth under Obama was an anemic 1.6%...those kind of results were no longer acceptable.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
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Luckily, the barrier that is planned parenthood will be removed, so people will be free to improve their lives without that getting in the way.Halifax2TheMax said:
And 227,000 jobs were created. And Trump took credit. Two weeks in office. Funny, but what opportunity is Trump going to bring back or allow access to? What barriers are there to improving ones life? Please explain.BS44325 said:
Again incorrect. That was the Obama platform. That was hope and change. It failed. Middle and lower class voters flipped from blue to red not because Trump would improve their lives but because he will remove barriers to opportunity which prevent these voters from improving their own lives. They are not looking for a federal government issued handout. They see federal government and their agencies as the problem...not the solution. Fourth quarter growth under Obama was an anemic 1.6%...those kind of results were no longer acceptable.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
I'm already sick of all this winning.0 -
I agree with this theoryHalifax2TheMax said:
Sure. Growth followed by an incredible crash and burn. Another tanked economy to benefit the few. I know, I've seen it before.BS44325 said:
Businesses plan ahead. The morning after election day the business environment changed due to the pending lifting of regulatory burdens which have only just begun. There will be plenty more growth to come.Halifax2TheMax said:
And 227,000 jobs were created. And Trump took credit. Two weeks in office. Funny, but what opportunity is Trump going to bring back or allow access to? What barriers are there to improving ones life? Please explain.BS44325 said:
Again incorrect. That was the Obama platform. That was hope and change. It failed. Middle and lower class voters flipped from blue to red not because Trump would improve their lives but because he will remove barriers to opportunity which prevent these voters from improving their own lives. They are not looking for a federal government issued handout. They see federal government and their agencies as the problem...not the solution. Fourth quarter growth under Obama was an anemic 1.6%...those kind of results were no longer acceptable.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
But it seems obvious though, right?0 -
I mean to point out the fact that Trump's actions have managed to create tension among racial, gender, and religious lines- his positions overtly favouring his preferences.BS44325 said:
I am not exactly sure what you mean?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Do you factor social regression at all?BS44325 said:
Businesses plan ahead. The morning after election day the business environment changed due to the pending lifting of regulatory burdens which have only just begun. There will be plenty more growth to come.Halifax2TheMax said:
And 227,000 jobs were created. And Trump took credit. Two weeks in office. Funny, but what opportunity is Trump going to bring back or allow access to? What barriers are there to improving ones life? Please explain.BS44325 said:
Again incorrect. That was the Obama platform. That was hope and change. It failed. Middle and lower class voters flipped from blue to red not because Trump would improve their lives but because he will remove barriers to opportunity which prevent these voters from improving their own lives. They are not looking for a federal government issued handout. They see federal government and their agencies as the problem...not the solution. Fourth quarter growth under Obama was an anemic 1.6%...those kind of results were no longer acceptable.Merkin Baller said:
The lack of understanding is predominantly with the middle & lower class voters who chose Trump thinking he would somehow improve their lives.BS44325 said:
No. Incorrect. The slogan is meaningless. Trump is just a vessel. The lack of understanding continues.Merkin Baller said:
We all know this is what it was about..... a slogan. People blindly voted for a slogan without questioning who or what was behind it. (But don't worry guys, he wrote this in the last hour, so he's still making it great again for you! Oops, I mean us........ oops again, I mean us white people...... OOOPS AGAIN, I mean us white men)BS44325 said:
It displays a lack of understanding of what the election was about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?BS44325 said:
It's the wrong question.2-feign-reluctance said:I'd love to hear from the Trump supporters here. Is he doing everything you want? Honestly? Is this what you wanted?
You are giving him credit for creating jobs and sparking an economy (which is debatable), but do you acknowledge the fact that whatever social progress might have been made to this point in time has been placed in a precarious position?
Citizens in the country are openly and violently opposed to each other and it is at this point I would say you have missed what needs to be understood: this isn't about sore losers... this is about preserving social integrity."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
nah....it's clearly not a conflict of interest....
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/documents-show-trump-retains-direct-164327828.html
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Im in NYC tonight... should I head past Bafoons headquarters and see what's happening?
Anybody want one of those stupid hats?0
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