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Go Beavers

Jason P said:

Dan Quayle must be watching this sideshow and just marvel over the amount of shit he took for spelling "potato" wrong.

I used to have a H.E.A.D. shirt, saying Hoosiers embarrassed about Dan underneath. I never thought I'd experience the exponential embarrassment I do now. I miss Dan!

my2hands

when it walks like a duck... when it looks like a duck... when it quacks like a duck...

its a duck... and its speaks Russian

CM189191

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

Love the troll reference. It's a fucking message board. You guys are achieving nothing. Don't take yourself so seriously. Enjoy the banter and don't think everyone is one way or the other.

Real conversation. Ha, ha, ha. Sarcasm and poking fun at the topic has no place in our extremely important, ultra productive on-line dialog, so I'll call you an internet name. Too funny.

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

Love the troll reference. It's a fucking message board. You guys are achieving nothing. Don't take yourself so seriously. Enjoy the banter and don't think everyone is one way or the other.

Real conversation. Ha, ha, ha. Sarcasm and poking fun at the topic has no place in our extremely important, ultra productive on-line dialog, so I'll call you an internet name. Too funny.

Not a troll, a status quo joe. Some people are trying to digest trump with false analogies about being the same as Clinton, Obama, etc. I know you've been away for awhile, but your kind is welcome here, too.

Thanks. What is my kind?

And for the record, Trump is nothing like Clinton who is nothing like Obama who is nothing like Trump who are all absolutely, positively nothing like Teddy Roosevelt.

And wtf is a false analogy. Is that like strenuously objecting? It's either an analogy or not an analogy. It can be a poor analogy, but it can't be a false analogy. No analogy is true or false. They just are or are not. Are you letting me down easy? Just glad my kind are still welcome here. Whew.

Faulty Analogy
This fallacy consists in assuming that because two things are alike in one or more respects, they are necessarily alike in some other respect.
Examples

EdsonNascimento

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

Love the troll reference. It's a fucking message board. You guys are achieving nothing. Don't take yourself so seriously. Enjoy the banter and don't think everyone is one way or the other.

Real conversation. Ha, ha, ha. Sarcasm and poking fun at the topic has no place in our extremely important, ultra productive on-line dialog, so I'll call you an internet name. Too funny.

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

Love the troll reference. It's a fucking message board. You guys are achieving nothing. Don't take yourself so seriously. Enjoy the banter and don't think everyone is one way or the other.

Real conversation. Ha, ha, ha. Sarcasm and poking fun at the topic has no place in our extremely important, ultra productive on-line dialog, so I'll call you an internet name. Too funny.

Not a troll, a status quo joe. Some people are trying to digest trump with false analogies about being the same as Clinton, Obama, etc. I know you've been away for awhile, but your kind is welcome here, too.

Thanks. What is my kind?

And for the record, Trump is nothing like Clinton who is nothing like Obama who is nothing like Trump who are all absolutely, positively nothing like Teddy Roosevelt.

And wtf is a false analogy. Is that like strenuously objecting? It's either an analogy or not an analogy. It can be a poor analogy, but it can't be a false analogy. No analogy is true or false. They just are or are not. Are you letting me down easy? Just glad my kind are still welcome here. Whew.

Fun questions! If you wanna split words, okay. Let's go with bad analogy but don't forget false equivalency. Or is that no good? And I'm generalizing you kind as people who refer to the past to ease the pain of trump and his sideshow.

What am I easing the pain of? I'm not quite sure where you got that I'm a Trump supporter, but that's neither here nor there. We'll disagree, as I think it's a perfect analogy especially considering I think his original response that I was responding to was a somewhat (proper) glib response. So, when in the theater of the absurd, you should just go with it.

I guess I must have struck a nerve on the Vince Foster. Do you know something you're not sharing?

Go Beavers

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

Love the troll reference. It's a fucking message board. You guys are achieving nothing. Don't take yourself so seriously. Enjoy the banter and don't think everyone is one way or the other.

Real conversation. Ha, ha, ha. Sarcasm and poking fun at the topic has no place in our extremely important, ultra productive on-line dialog, so I'll call you an internet name. Too funny.

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

Love the troll reference. It's a fucking message board. You guys are achieving nothing. Don't take yourself so seriously. Enjoy the banter and don't think everyone is one way or the other.

Real conversation. Ha, ha, ha. Sarcasm and poking fun at the topic has no place in our extremely important, ultra productive on-line dialog, so I'll call you an internet name. Too funny.

Not a troll, a status quo joe. Some people are trying to digest trump with false analogies about being the same as Clinton, Obama, etc. I know you've been away for awhile, but your kind is welcome here, too.

Thanks. What is my kind?

And for the record, Trump is nothing like Clinton who is nothing like Obama who is nothing like Trump who are all absolutely, positively nothing like Teddy Roosevelt.

And wtf is a false analogy. Is that like strenuously objecting? It's either an analogy or not an analogy. It can be a poor analogy, but it can't be a false analogy. No analogy is true or false. They just are or are not. Are you letting me down easy? Just glad my kind are still welcome here. Whew.

Fun questions! If you wanna split words, okay. Let's go with bad analogy but don't forget false equivalency. Or is that no good? And I'm generalizing you kind as people who refer to the past to ease the pain of trump and his sideshow.

What am I easing the pain of? I'm not quite sure where you got that I'm a Trump supporter, but that's neither here nor there. We'll disagree, as I think it's a perfect analogy especially considering I think his original response that I was responding to was a somewhat (proper) glib response. So, when in the theater of the absurd, you should just go with it.

I guess I must have struck a nerve on the Vince Foster. Do you know something you're not sharing?

Maybe I do. But I'd rather not be shanked by Ms. Clinton personally. She's a killa, ya know?

Halifax2TheMax

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

my2hands said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

I think optimism is speaking in this thread recently.

I'm not so sure Trump has one foot out the door, folks.

I hope he stays all 4 years because he is obviously a disaster and this is the best thing to ever happen to the progressive movement in North America...

The best part of this fiasco is that it is destroying their credibility and agenda...

But honestly... I want this orange bully to be proven to be a traitor in bed with the Russians and do the perp walk out of the White House.

it's all fun and games until a nuke goes off

I'm of the same thinking. I want his 4 years of nonsense to destroy the republican far right, but at the same time, how much damage is he going to do if he's in office that long.

People thought his candidacy alone would destroy the republican party and yet they are more republicans in government then ever. The Flynn resignation certainly doesn't look good but there is no evidence that Trump is doing "damage". The policies he has put in place are still in line with what his voters wanted and I don't see that changing regardless how messy it appears. His campaign was messy...he had three different campaign managers until he found success. People will be hired and fired based on results and it's quite possible the removal of Flynn will be a blessing in disguise as there has always been tension between him and the intelligence agencies. Nothing that has happened so far has made the electoral terrain any better for the Dems in 2018. The question is when/if the messiness becomes electorally significant?

lol we're not even 2months into his presidency and your already claiming nothing will come of the mess that's hounding him !

no, he's not. he's saying no one knows yet, which is true.

lol like I said there is no way president Bafoon did not know all this way back before election , you might not believe it but I bet a lot of the established people in the know totally know how deep this Bafoon is in it !!

Adam Schiff (ranking Dem on House Intelligence committee) told other Dems today that plenty more will be coming out in the next few days. Should be interesting. Saw the official name of this crisis too.. "Flynnghazi".

Why would anyone want to remind everybody about another NSA lying?

Que? I don't understand.

Well Flynnghazi comes from Benghazi which is what I think you find so cool. Don't forget that scandal begins with Susan Rice's appearance on all Sunday shows with a lie about the video.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/susan-rice-no-regrets-on-benghazi-description/

I guess the only difference is that she lied with the Obama administration's knowledge while Flynn lied without it.
At this point what difference does it make?

That was a fluid situation occurring in a different country. Rice was acting as spokesperson. Flynn lied about a conversation that he took part in personally. It's a little different. And I wasn't referring to Rice at all.. it's just more relevant today than Flynngate. Pretty soon we will have a straight up Russia-gate with Trump in the center.

Rice was given her talking points and executed them. I don't blame her for the lie even though she is the one who told it. Time will tell whether there is an actual Russia gate. So far nobody is actually declaring that Flynn or anyone else broke the law. In fact current reporting says the FBI cleared Flynn so other then the lie to Pence I am not actually sure what "gate" is coming. This is from January 23:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-reviewed-flynns-calls-with-russian-ambassador-but-found-nothing-illicit/2017/01/23/aa83879a-e1ae-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html?utm_term=.622fb466dc98

Have these details changed? Until anybody hears the tape of the phone call (which we never will) how can we know? Is the FBI now going to launch a Logan Act prosecution which I believe has only happened once or twice in the history of the country? It might but the current reporting isn't suggesting that.

The Treasury's financial crimes unit is still investigating, as are three other agencies. Follow the money. Impeachment.

my2hands

like my boy has been saying...

FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!

EdsonNascimento

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

Love the troll reference. It's a fucking message board. You guys are achieving nothing. Don't take yourself so seriously. Enjoy the banter and don't think everyone is one way or the other.

Real conversation. Ha, ha, ha. Sarcasm and poking fun at the topic has no place in our extremely important, ultra productive on-line dialog, so I'll call you an internet name. Too funny.

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

Love the troll reference. It's a fucking message board. You guys are achieving nothing. Don't take yourself so seriously. Enjoy the banter and don't think everyone is one way or the other.

Real conversation. Ha, ha, ha. Sarcasm and poking fun at the topic has no place in our extremely important, ultra productive on-line dialog, so I'll call you an internet name. Too funny.

Not a troll, a status quo joe. Some people are trying to digest trump with false analogies about being the same as Clinton, Obama, etc. I know you've been away for awhile, but your kind is welcome here, too.

Thanks. What is my kind?

And for the record, Trump is nothing like Clinton who is nothing like Obama who is nothing like Trump who are all absolutely, positively nothing like Teddy Roosevelt.

And wtf is a false analogy. Is that like strenuously objecting? It's either an analogy or not an analogy. It can be a poor analogy, but it can't be a false analogy. No analogy is true or false. They just are or are not. Are you letting me down easy? Just glad my kind are still welcome here. Whew.

Fun questions! If you wanna split words, okay. Let's go with bad analogy but don't forget false equivalency. Or is that no good? And I'm generalizing you kind as people who refer to the past to ease the pain of trump and his sideshow.

What am I easing the pain of? I'm not quite sure where you got that I'm a Trump supporter, but that's neither here nor there. We'll disagree, as I think it's a perfect analogy especially considering I think his original response that I was responding to was a somewhat (proper) glib response. So, when in the theater of the absurd, you should just go with it.

I guess I must have struck a nerve on the Vince Foster. Do you know something you're not sharing?

Maybe I do. But I'd rather not be shanked by Ms. Clinton personally. She's a killa, ya know?

Sort of like Monica Lewinsky?

Oh, wait, that was only female attacking female for outing a man who committed workplace sexual abuse rather than supporting her. Faulty analogy.

vaggar99

mfc2006 said:

vaggar99 said:

Jason P said:

If they Midwest economy is strong four years from now, he will win a second term. And there is nothing with East and West coast can do about it even if they have the popular vote.

i work for a franchised retail chain. we have 40 locations around the state of TX. our business has been down 10 to 20 percent every month since October. This is very alarming for us. We are used to 5 to 10 percent growth even in a weak economy. Lesson? Well, we are not the only ones experiencing this. The stock market does not reflect it either. But consumer confidence is way down in this region. Not sure why it's getting much attention. But it's real. We are close to entering a panic mode here.

I sincerely hope it bounces back for you all.

thanks.

mfc2006 said:

vaggar99 said:

Jason P said:

If they Midwest economy is strong four years from now, he will win a second term. And there is nothing with East and West coast can do about it even if they have the popular vote.

i work for a franchised retail chain. we have 40 locations around the state of TX. our business has been down 10 to 20 percent every month since October. This is very alarming for us. We are used to 5 to 10 percent growth even in a weak economy. Lesson? Well, we are not the only ones experiencing this. The stock market does not reflect it either. But consumer confidence is way down in this region. Not sure why it's getting much attention. But it's real. We are close to entering a panic mode here.

I sincerely hope it bounces back for you all.

thanks. like i said, there are many others in the same boat as us. I suppose my main point was that the media is not covering the impending recession that I see coming. I hope I'm wrong and all of this is just a short term lull. It's striking how quickly things have shifted though. We were doing fine until October. I think most people around the office are still trying to get their heads around the situation.

Go Beavers

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

Love the troll reference. It's a fucking message board. You guys are achieving nothing. Don't take yourself so seriously. Enjoy the banter and don't think everyone is one way or the other.

Real conversation. Ha, ha, ha. Sarcasm and poking fun at the topic has no place in our extremely important, ultra productive on-line dialog, so I'll call you an internet name. Too funny.

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

Love the troll reference. It's a fucking message board. You guys are achieving nothing. Don't take yourself so seriously. Enjoy the banter and don't think everyone is one way or the other.

Real conversation. Ha, ha, ha. Sarcasm and poking fun at the topic has no place in our extremely important, ultra productive on-line dialog, so I'll call you an internet name. Too funny.

Not a troll, a status quo joe. Some people are trying to digest trump with false analogies about being the same as Clinton, Obama, etc. I know you've been away for awhile, but your kind is welcome here, too.

Thanks. What is my kind?

And for the record, Trump is nothing like Clinton who is nothing like Obama who is nothing like Trump who are all absolutely, positively nothing like Teddy Roosevelt.

And wtf is a false analogy. Is that like strenuously objecting? It's either an analogy or not an analogy. It can be a poor analogy, but it can't be a false analogy. No analogy is true or false. They just are or are not. Are you letting me down easy? Just glad my kind are still welcome here. Whew.

Fun questions! If you wanna split words, okay. Let's go with bad analogy but don't forget false equivalency. Or is that no good? And I'm generalizing you kind as people who refer to the past to ease the pain of trump and his sideshow.

What am I easing the pain of? I'm not quite sure where you got that I'm a Trump supporter, but that's neither here nor there. We'll disagree, as I think it's a perfect analogy especially considering I think his original response that I was responding to was a somewhat (proper) glib response. So, when in the theater of the absurd, you should just go with it.

I guess I must have struck a nerve on the Vince Foster. Do you know something you're not sharing?

Maybe I do. But I'd rather not be shanked by Ms. Clinton personally. She's a killa, ya know?

Sort of like Monica Lewinsky?

Oh, wait, that was only female attacking female for outing a man who committed workplace sexual abuse rather than supporting her. Faulty analogy.

See, now you played right into my hands with your invalid false incorrect analogy equivalency. Workplace sexual harassment is not sexual assault. trump is not Clinton is the arena of sexual offending. What trump has admitted to carries penalities and tracking as a sex offender.

mrussel1

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

Love the troll reference. It's a fucking message board. You guys are achieving nothing. Don't take yourself so seriously. Enjoy the banter and don't think everyone is one way or the other.

Real conversation. Ha, ha, ha. Sarcasm and poking fun at the topic has no place in our extremely important, ultra productive on-line dialog, so I'll call you an internet name. Too funny.

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Go Beavers said:

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?

That's not the real story. The insiders have always leaked to the press. Have you never heard of Deep Throat? This is how we keep tabs on our elected leaders. God bless the whistle blowers.

A whistleblower courageously comes forward to the public. It puts a face to the accusation which is far more powerful compared to unsubstantiated leaks. It doesn't mean the leaks are not accurate but this is not the same.

so you want to see them found in a dumpster with a bullet hole in the back of their head?

Sort of like Vince Foster?

Now we're digging deep into the kooky equivalencies and it's not even noon.

Why kooky? Maybe, I didn't track the entire conversation, so what I thought I was responding to was instead of allowing whistleblowers (which I am personally fine with), would you (sarcastically) prefer the were shot?

So, I (sarcastically) threw out a perfect analogy.

Now, if I misread that particular exchange, or the reference bothered you, then good. That was my intention.

Are you vying to be the new troll? We have plenty on both sides already. We could use some real conversation instead.

Love the troll reference. It's a fucking message board. You guys are achieving nothing. Don't take yourself so seriously. Enjoy the banter and don't think everyone is one way or the other.

Real conversation. Ha, ha, ha. Sarcasm and poking fun at the topic has no place in our extremely important, ultra productive on-line dialog, so I'll call you an internet name. Too funny.

Not a troll, a status quo joe. Some people are trying to digest trump with false analogies about being the same as Clinton, Obama, etc. I know you've been away for awhile, but your kind is welcome here, too.

Thanks. What is my kind?

And for the record, Trump is nothing like Clinton who is nothing like Obama who is nothing like Trump who are all absolutely, positively nothing like Teddy Roosevelt.

And wtf is a false analogy. Is that like strenuously objecting? It's either an analogy or not an analogy. It can be a poor analogy, but it can't be a false analogy. No analogy is true or false. They just are or are not. Are you letting me down easy? Just glad my kind are still welcome here. Whew.

Fun questions! If you wanna split words, okay. Let's go with bad analogy but don't forget false equivalency. Or is that no good? And I'm generalizing you kind as people who refer to the past to ease the pain of trump and his sideshow.

What am I easing the pain of? I'm not quite sure where you got that I'm a Trump supporter, but that's neither here nor there. We'll disagree, as I think it's a perfect analogy especially considering I think his original response that I was responding to was a somewhat (proper) glib response. So, when in the theater of the absurd, you should just go with it.

I guess I must have struck a nerve on the Vince Foster. Do you know something you're not sharing?

Maybe I do. But I'd rather not be shanked by Ms. Clinton personally. She's a killa, ya know?

Sort of like Monica Lewinsky?

Oh, wait, that was only female attacking female for outing a man who committed workplace sexual abuse rather than supporting her. Faulty analogy.

Yes it's the first recorded time when a woman (or man) was angry with the person that slept with her/his spouse. In most everyday lives, the woman would side with the other woman and they would end up drinking International Coffee in Paris together. But Hillary being angry with Monica was WAY out of bounds and highly inconsistent with human behavior.

my2hands

so our current president and his crew are clearly sold out to Russia and all some of you guys can come up with is old Clinton scandals?

lol what a joke

BS44325

ledvedderman said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

josevolution said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

my2hands said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

I think optimism is speaking in this thread recently.

I'm not so sure Trump has one foot out the door, folks.

I hope he stays all 4 years because he is obviously a disaster and this is the best thing to ever happen to the progressive movement in North America...

The best part of this fiasco is that it is destroying their credibility and agenda...

But honestly... I want this orange bully to be proven to be a traitor in bed with the Russians and do the perp walk out of the White House.

it's all fun and games until a nuke goes off

I'm of the same thinking. I want his 4 years of nonsense to destroy the republican far right, but at the same time, how much damage is he going to do if he's in office that long.

People thought his candidacy alone would destroy the republican party and yet they are more republicans in government then ever. The Flynn resignation certainly doesn't look good but there is no evidence that Trump is doing "damage". The policies he has put in place are still in line with what his voters wanted and I don't see that changing regardless how messy it appears. His campaign was messy...he had three different campaign managers until he found success. People will be hired and fired based on results and it's quite possible the removal of Flynn will be a blessing in disguise as there has always been tension between him and the intelligence agencies. Nothing that has happened so far has made the electoral terrain any better for the Dems in 2018. The question is when/if the messiness becomes electorally significant?

lol we're not even 2months into his presidency and your already claiming nothing will come of the mess that's hounding him !

no, he's not. he's saying no one knows yet, which is true.

lol like I said there is no way president Bafoon did not know all this way back before election , you might not believe it but I bet a lot of the established people in the know totally know how deep this Bafoon is in it !!

Adam Schiff (ranking Dem on House Intelligence committee) told other Dems today that plenty more will be coming out in the next few days. Should be interesting. Saw the official name of this crisis too.. "Flynnghazi".

Why would anyone want to remind everybody about another NSA lying?

Que? I don't understand.

Well Flynnghazi comes from Benghazi which is what I think you find so cool. Don't forget that scandal begins with Susan Rice's appearance on all Sunday shows with a lie about the video.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/susan-rice-no-regrets-on-benghazi-description/

I guess the only difference is that she lied with the Obama administration's knowledge while Flynn lied without it.
At this point what difference does it make?

That was a fluid situation occurring in a different country. Rice was acting as spokesperson. Flynn lied about a conversation that he took part in personally. It's a little different. And I wasn't referring to Rice at all.. it's just more relevant today than Flynngate. Pretty soon we will have a straight up Russia-gate with Trump in the center.

Rice was given her talking points and executed them. I don't blame her for the lie even though she is the one who told it. Time will tell whether there is an actual Russia gate. So far nobody is actually declaring that Flynn or anyone else broke the law. In fact current reporting says the FBI cleared Flynn so other then the lie to Pence I am not actually sure what "gate" is coming. This is from January 23:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-reviewed-flynns-calls-with-russian-ambassador-but-found-nothing-illicit/2017/01/23/aa83879a-e1ae-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html?utm_term=.622fb466dc98

Have these details changed? Until anybody hears the tape of the phone call (which we never will) how can we know? Is the FBI now going to launch a Logan Act prosecution which I believe has only happened once or twice in the history of the country? It might but the current reporting isn't suggesting that.

There are transcripts. Supposedly the select intelligence committees will have them soon. I believe the situation has changed since that article.

You believe it has but current reporting doesn't confirm this. From my understanding the FBI already had this information. Therefore all we have now is the deep state spying on an American citizen and selectively releasing information that is normally shielded to the press.

Flynn was not being spied on. He was dumb enough to call a Russian ambassador, who are routinely under surveillance. This is all on Flynn. After 30 years in service and in intelligence, it is truly a boneheaded move to not think his conversation would be recorded. When the ambassadors conversations were reviewed and it turned out it was Flynn on the other end who made comments about sanctions...the gig was up. It's all on Flynn at this point but it could go much higher very easily.

Yes it was the ambassador who was under surveillance but the law states that any American ensnared in one of those conversations must have their identity shielded as they themselves are not the target of the spying. This is what many demanded during the Bush years. Flynn was not the target (as you say) and according to the FBI (so far) committed no crime so the actual disclosure of this is a violation of the law unless a FISA court ruled that this information was of national security importance. Was there a FISA court ruling? This we don't know. So what we have is people within the intelligence community selectively leaking information that as a point of law should not be public. Whether Flynn was aware he was being recorded or not this information should have been protected "unless" a court determined he committed a criminal act. Flynn knows the rules and may have wrongly assumed that his conversation would be kept private as the law requires. None of this however absolves him of not being truthful with the Vice President.

EdsonNascimento

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Sort of like Monica Lewinsky?

Oh, wait, that was only female attacking female for outing a man who committed workplace sexual abuse rather than supporting her. Faulty analogy.

Yes it's the first recorded time when a woman (or man) was angry with the person that slept with her/his spouse. In most everyday lives, the woman would side with the other woman and they would end up drinking International Coffee in Paris together. But Hillary being angry with Monica was WAY out of bounds and highly inconsistent with human behavior.

But, she's above all that. She represents all women, and how dare any of them vote against her. She's the pillar of all they stand for. And letting your husband get a blow job from an intern and attacking said intern is what that person stands for as a powerful woman.

I don't disagree with your human behavior comment. But, what kind of human?

And, if I ever got a BJ from an intern and my wife not only stayed with me, but attacked that woman publically, I think I'd have to divorce her.

EdsonNascimento

my2hands said:

so our current president and his crew are clearly sold out to Russia and all some of you guys can come up with is old Clinton scandals?

lol what a joke

Relax. It's a side commentary. Nothing's taking away from your all focused the Russians are coming diatribe. It's our way of calming our nerves. BTW, how you feel about JFK getting those missiles pointed at us from shooting range?

Abe Froman

my2hands said:

so our current president and his crew are clearly sold out to Russia and all some of you guys can come up with is old Clinton scandals?

lol what a joke

Its always the same defense. "Hillary is worse"..."what about Bill & Monica"..."why can't you all wait and give Trump a chance?"

ledvedderman

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Sort of like Monica Lewinsky?

Oh, wait, that was only female attacking female for outing a man who committed workplace sexual abuse rather than supporting her. Faulty analogy.

Yes it's the first recorded time when a woman (or man) was angry with the person that slept with her/his spouse. In most everyday lives, the woman would side with the other woman and they would end up drinking International Coffee in Paris together. But Hillary being angry with Monica was WAY out of bounds and highly inconsistent with human behavior.

But, she's above all that. She represents all women, and how dare any of them vote against her. She's the pillar of all they stand for. And letting your husband get a blow job from an intern and attacking said intern is what that person stands for as a powerful woman.

I don't disagree with your human behavior comment. But, what kind of human?

And, if I ever got a blow job from an intern and my wife not only stayed with me, but attacked that woman publically, I think I'd have to divorce her.

Why the fuck are you talking about Clinton so much? Who gives a shot about her? This thread is for the President...that isn't Secretary Clinton. There's a thread on her if you want to dig it up. If you can't defend Trump in any other way than bringing up 20+ year old scandals...then maybe you're trying to defend what's indefensible.

Go Beavers

ledvedderman said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Sort of like Monica Lewinsky?

Oh, wait, that was only female attacking female for outing a man who committed workplace sexual abuse rather than supporting her. Faulty analogy.

Yes it's the first recorded time when a woman (or man) was angry with the person that slept with her/his spouse. In most everyday lives, the woman would side with the other woman and they would end up drinking International Coffee in Paris together. But Hillary being angry with Monica was WAY out of bounds and highly inconsistent with human behavior.

But, she's above all that. She represents all women, and how dare any of them vote against her. She's the pillar of all they stand for. And letting your husband get a blow job from an intern and attacking said intern is what that person stands for as a powerful woman.

I don't disagree with your human behavior comment. But, what kind of human?

And, if I ever got a blow job from an intern and my wife not only stayed with me, but attacked that woman publically, I think I'd have to divorce her.

Why the fuck are you talking about Clinton so much? Who gives a shot about her? This thread is for the President...that isn't Secretary Clinton. There's a thread on her if you want to dig it up. If you can't defend Trump in any other way than bringing up 20+ year old scandals...then maybe you're trying to defend what's indefensible.

He's a conservative trying to needle us libs. He has low content, but high zippy factor.

josevolution

my2hands said:

so our current president and his crew are clearly sold out to Russia and all some of you guys can come up with is old Clinton scandals?

lol what a joke

No doubt even here on this forum you have posters that are still trying to justify his presidency lol they voted for a total bafoon and can't come to terms with it !!

ledvedderman

EdsonNascimento said:

my2hands said:

so our current president and his crew are clearly sold out to Russia and all some of you guys can come up with is old Clinton scandals?

lol what a joke

Relax. It's a side commentary. Nothing's taking away from your all focused the Russians are coming diatribe. It's our way of calming our nerves. BTW, how you feel about JFK getting those missiles pointed at us from shooting range?

You mean JFK the president who stood up to Russia and prevented WW3 without a shot being fired? I feel pretty awesome about him. He's a legend.

So now you're not just deflecting 20 years you're going back 50+ to avoid talking about the issue?