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  • After the speech last night it is clear what kind of Democratic nutcases President Trump is dealing with. I mean those three clowns waving their thumbs down, wtf? It is so nice seeing the visceral hate from the dem libs televised it only amplifies their vile temperament. It was all over their faces how much hate was in their soul because they are being led by someone who does not think or act like them. It was comical to watch and will be for the next eight years.
    From the article below.
    Donald Trump has filed paperwork to ensure he is ready to run for President in 2020. Gary Nordlinger, professional in residence for global advocacy at George Washington University said, Mr. Trump’s early paperwork "sends a clear message" that he intends to run again.
    "I can’t say its never been done before but I can’t recall a candidate doing it quite so soon," he told The Independent.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-2020-second-term-president-federal-elections-commission-filing-a7558236.html

    visceral hate? laughable. they are allowed to vocalize their disapproval with his policies. you think they should just fall in line and all of a sudden agree and support him because he is the president? he isn't THEIR leader, their constituents are. I have respect for anyone who is vocal about their opinion, no matter how unpopular. I'd be incredibly disappointed if they all stood up like the dogs waiting for their treats that the republicans looked like at every goddamn thing he said.

    that shows how cowardly THE RIGHT are.

    if you have a new boss that sucks balls, do you just say "yes sir" and grovel? if you do, grow a backbone. I don't. I haven't. I tell them what's what. And I am easily replaceable at my job. But I cannot look myself in the mirror and take shit.
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  • Question from someone who wasn't here when it happened:

    When Bush and the Republicans stole the election from Gore... what was the back and forth like around here between republicans and democrats?

    Did the republicans gloat as they do know? Did they defend the scam citing various stupid excuses like they do with Trump now?

    Bush was a tool and has set the world back for many decades. Trump is a bigger tool. When people say, "You're from ___ why do you care?"... people care because rogue presidents of the USA have a really shitty way of f**king up a lot of things for a lot of people- and not just the ones in their own country (see the Middle East and Europe for what I mean by that).

    I've said something similar recently, and I think I'm going to put it in my signature, just so any time an american has lost the argument and resorts to the last gasp "aren't you canadian...?" argument, I'll just point down.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,659

    Question from someone who wasn't here when it happened:

    When Bush and the Republicans stole the election from Gore... what was the back and forth like around here between republicans and democrats?

    Did the republicans gloat as they do know? Did they defend the scam citing various stupid excuses like they do with Trump now?

    Bush was a tool and has set the world back for many decades. Trump is a bigger tool. When people say, "You're from ___ why do you care?"... people care because rogue presidents of the USA have a really shitty way of f**king up a lot of things for a lot of people- and not just the ones in their own country (see the Middle East and Europe for what I mean by that).

    I lived in Tampa at the time so we were ground zero. In fact, I had a 'butterfly' ballot and it was a bit confusing for sure.
    And I worked for a large bank at the time and there were plenty of Dems and Republicans at work. I can say that everyone was respectful to each other. But this was in 2000 when there was no social media so you could not hide behind an avatar and be a total dick. So it was different.
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299

    dignin said:

    As Seth points out, we've all been here before.

    Media Fawns Over Trump's New Tone.

    This guy is becoming as washed out as Stewart.
    Jon looks more like Wolf eryday. #seperatedatbirth

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    This is going to get ugly folks. Any tweets from Trump? I'll bet the White House, Bannon and Trump are scrambling to determine how much is out there and what exactly did the Obama Administration "save."

    Follow the money like Issa, Bush, Ryan, McCain and Schumer, from Russia with love, impeach Trump.

    Oh how the caged bird will sing. Who will be star witness? Manafort? Flynn? A bench player to be named later?


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  • mrussel1 said:

    Question from someone who wasn't here when it happened:

    When Bush and the Republicans stole the election from Gore... what was the back and forth like around here between republicans and democrats?

    Did the republicans gloat as they do know? Did they defend the scam citing various stupid excuses like they do with Trump now?

    Bush was a tool and has set the world back for many decades. Trump is a bigger tool. When people say, "You're from ___ why do you care?"... people care because rogue presidents of the USA have a really shitty way of f**king up a lot of things for a lot of people- and not just the ones in their own country (see the Middle East and Europe for what I mean by that).

    I lived in Tampa at the time so we were ground zero. In fact, I had a 'butterfly' ballot and it was a bit confusing for sure.
    And I worked for a large bank at the time and there were plenty of Dems and Republicans at work. I can say that everyone was respectful to each other. But this was in 2000 when there was no social media so you could not hide behind an avatar and be a total dick. So it was different.
    I think your last point is very important in today's climate. I think the collective outrage is so much higher because people go on social media, or watch the 24 hour news cycle, and the hysteria is EVERYWHERE, and it's difficult to not let that effect you. Like I stated before, I have followed some people on twitter and have had to unfollow because of their outrage at everything and hysteria about nothing. even some of my friends on facebook I've had to unfollow/unfriend. you have to step back and think "would this bother me if this was my candidate doing this?". if the honest answer is no, move on.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,474

    After the speech last night it is clear what kind of Democratic nutcases President Trump is dealing with. I mean those three clowns waving their thumbs down, wtf? It is so nice seeing the visceral hate from the dem libs televised it only amplifies their vile temperament. It was all over their faces how much hate was in their soul because they are being led by someone who does not think or act like them. It was comical to watch and will be for the next eight years.
    From the article below.
    Donald Trump has filed paperwork to ensure he is ready to run for President in 2020. Gary Nordlinger, professional in residence for global advocacy at George Washington University said, Mr. Trump’s early paperwork "sends a clear message" that he intends to run again.
    "I can’t say its never been done before but I can’t recall a candidate doing it quite so soon," he told The Independent.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-2020-second-term-president-federal-elections-commission-filing-a7558236.html

    visceral hate? laughable. they are allowed to vocalize their disapproval with his policies. you think they should just fall in line and all of a sudden agree and support him because he is the president? he isn't THEIR leader, their constituents are. I have respect for anyone who is vocal about their opinion, no matter how unpopular. I'd be incredibly disappointed if they all stood up like the dogs waiting for their treats that the republicans looked like at every goddamn thing he said.

    that shows how cowardly THE RIGHT are.

    if you have a new boss that sucks balls, do you just say "yes sir" and grovel? if you do, grow a backbone. I don't. I haven't. I tell them what's what. And I am easily replaceable at my job. But I cannot look myself in the mirror and take shit.
    Exactly and the biggest cowards are Ryan & McConnell followed by every other senators that will sit by and watch this administration tear down the ethical process of balance & checks , they are all guilty of it !! Democrats & republican alike ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • one thing I was actually impressed with was his plan for family leave. that is not something I expected from this admin.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    The only conservative on here that can actually articulate a solid position is a Canadian. I welcome all of my canadIan friends into the conversation!
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,145

    one thing I was actually impressed with was his plan for family leave. that is not something I expected from this admin.

    That's Ivanka's touch
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969

    one thing I was actually impressed with was his plan for family leave. that is not something I expected from this admin.

    That's Ivanka's touch
    And it doesn't stand a chance of being passed as a law and signed by Trump.

    The republicans fabricated and are the creators of the faux outrage. Remember the pasty white preppies in khakhi shorts, loafers and polo shirts with popped collars banging on the glass as the city hall election workers tried to count ballots and determine who votes had been for in 2000? Rush Limbaugh has been bloviating outrage since he took to the airwaves. The Dems still haven't even come close.
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055

    one thing I was actually impressed with was his plan for family leave. that is not something I expected from this admin.

    That's Ivanka's touch
    you mean interesting on the surface but super pricy with no actual way to pay for it...not that it's a bad idea.
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    Not typed by Trump

    “Since November 8th, Election Day, the Stock Market has posted $3.2 trillion in GAINS and consumer confidence is at a 15 year high. Jobs!”
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,071

    one thing I was actually impressed with was his plan for family leave. that is not something I expected from this admin.

    That's Ivanka's touch
    And it doesn't stand a chance of being passed as a law and signed by Trump.

    The republicans fabricated and are the creators of the faux outrage. Remember the pasty white preppies in khakhi shorts, loafers and polo shirts with popped collars banging on the glass as the city hall election workers tried to count ballots and determine who votes had been for in 2000? Rush Limbaugh has been bloviating outrage since he took to the airwaves. The Dems still haven't even come close.
    Repubs pushed back on 12 weeks of unpaid parental leave. Family values for sure.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,659
    Tiki said:

    Not typed by Trump

    “Since November 8th, Election Day, the Stock Market has posted $3.2 trillion in GAINS and consumer confidence is at a 15 year high. Jobs!”

    Trump should know better than anyone that wealth does not equal jobs. The market reflects expectations, not results. As they say.."buy the rumor, sell the news".
  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    not just jobs. Jobs!




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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    Ethics? What are they? Who needs those?

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/02/politics/white-house-ethics-training/index.html

    Follow the money like Issa, Bush, Ryan, McCain, Graham, Schumer, Franken and Pelosi, from Russia with love, impeach Trump.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Sessions recuses himself from Russian probes

    They knew they had to get that out on the airwaves by 5pm eastern for the evening news cycle

    As my boy Walter Sobchak would say, what a bunch of fucking amateurs lol
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    Where are the Trump tweets about the wall?
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    Did you see Recusin' Jeffy run out of that news conference RIGHT AT 4:20?

    WTeffingF?
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  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    my2hands said:

    Sessions recuses himself from Russian probes

    They knew they had to get that out on the airwaves by 5pm eastern for the evening news cycle

    As my boy Walter Sobchak would say, what a bunch of fucking amateurs lol

    "If you will it, it is no dream." lol

  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    rssesq said:

    my2hands said:

    Sessions recuses himself from Russian probes

    They knew they had to get that out on the airwaves by 5pm eastern for the evening news cycle

    As my boy Walter Sobchak would say, what a bunch of fucking amateurs lol

    "If you will it, it is no dream." lol

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  • my2hands said:

    Sessions recuses himself from Russian probes

    They knew they had to get that out on the airwaves by 5pm eastern for the evening news cycle

    As my boy Walter Sobchak would say, what a bunch of fucking amateurs lol

    isn't that pretty much like admitting that he lied?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    PJfan... what does bafoon's twitter feed look like today? All quiet on the orange front?
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,750
    But but but what about the emails????

    Mike Pence used private email for state business and was HACKED
    http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/02/pence-used-personal-email-state-business----and-hacked/98604904/
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Did anyone catch the interview with Carter Page that Chris Hayes had tonight?

    https://youtu.be/QjfuTn6d1ZU
  • my2hands said:

    PJfan... what does bafoon's twitter feed look like today? All quiet on the orange front?

    Jeff Sessions is an honest man. He did not say anything wrong. He could have stated his response more accurately, but it was clearly not intentional. This whole narrative is a way of saving face for Democrats losing an election that everyone thought they were supposed to win. The Democrats are overplaying their hand. They lost the election, and now they have lost their grip on reality. The real story is all of the illegal leaks of classified and other information. It is a total "witch hunt!"
  • my2hands said:

    PJfan... what does bafoon's twitter feed look like today? All quiet on the orange front?

    Jeff Sessions is an honest man. He did not say anything wrong. He could have stated his response more accurately, but it was clearly not intentional. This whole narrative is a way of saving face for Democrats losing an election that everyone thought they were supposed to win. The Democrats are overplaying their hand. They lost the election, and now they have lost their grip on reality. The real story is all of the illegal leaks of classified and other information. It is a total "witch hunt!"
    yet he says nothing about the allegations, which are totally with merit. sessions lied under oath. as did many of trump's folks. sessions is the next domino to fall. trump will be in that line eventually.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969

    my2hands said:

    PJfan... what does bafoon's twitter feed look like today? All quiet on the orange front?

    Jeff Sessions is an honest man. He did not say anything wrong. He could have stated his response more accurately, but it was clearly not intentional. This whole narrative is a way of saving face for Democrats losing an election that everyone thought they were supposed to win. The Democrats are overplaying their hand. They lost the election, and now they have lost their grip on reality. The real story is all of the illegal leaks of classified and other information. It is a total "witch hunt!"
    Yea, hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, sure.

    Hey Donald? You like connecting dots? And about those tax returns?
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