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Lewinsky? Seriously?

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josevolution

ledvedderman said:

EdsonNascimento said:

my2hands said:

so our current president and his crew are clearly sold out to Russia and all some of you guys can come up with is old Clinton scandals?

lol what a joke

Relax. It's a side commentary. Nothing's taking away from your all focused the Russians are coming diatribe. It's our way of calming our nerves. BTW, how you feel about JFK getting those missiles pointed at us from shooting range?

You mean JFK the president who stood up to Russia and prevented WW3 without a shot being fired? I feel pretty awesome about him. He's a legend.

So now you're not just deflecting 20 years you're going back 50+ to avoid talking about the issue?

Like I said they still can't come to terms that they voted for a moron uhmm is this better than Bafoon !

EdsonNascimento

josevolution said:

ledvedderman said:

EdsonNascimento said:

my2hands said:

so our current president and his crew are clearly sold out to Russia and all some of you guys can come up with is old Clinton scandals?

lol what a joke

Relax. It's a side commentary. Nothing's taking away from your all focused the Russians are coming diatribe. It's our way of calming our nerves. BTW, how you feel about JFK getting those missiles pointed at us from shooting range?

You mean JFK the president who stood up to Russia and prevented WW3 without a shot being fired? I feel pretty awesome about him. He's a legend.

So now you're not just deflecting 20 years you're going back 50+ to avoid talking about the issue?

Like I said they still can't come to terms that they voted for a moron uhmm is this better than Bafoon !

I live in NY outside NYC. My vote doesn't matter.

But, for the record, I voted for Teddy Roosevelt.

EdsonNascimento

ledvedderman said:

EdsonNascimento said:

my2hands said:

so our current president and his crew are clearly sold out to Russia and all some of you guys can come up with is old Clinton scandals?

lol what a joke

Relax. It's a side commentary. Nothing's taking away from your all focused the Russians are coming diatribe. It's our way of calming our nerves. BTW, how you feel about JFK getting those missiles pointed at us from shooting range?

You mean JFK the president who stood up to Russia and prevented WW3 without a shot being fired? I feel pretty awesome about him. He's a legend.

So now you're not just deflecting 20 years you're going back 50+ to avoid talking about the issue?

Well, now you know Trump's plan. Get Russia to point nuclear warheads at us from close range, and the libs will only remember that he "stopped" them.

ledvedderman

EdsonNascimento said:

ledvedderman said:

EdsonNascimento said:

my2hands said:

so our current president and his crew are clearly sold out to Russia and all some of you guys can come up with is old Clinton scandals?

lol what a joke

Relax. It's a side commentary. Nothing's taking away from your all focused the Russians are coming diatribe. It's our way of calming our nerves. BTW, how you feel about JFK getting those missiles pointed at us from shooting range?

You mean JFK the president who stood up to Russia and prevented WW3 without a shot being fired? I feel pretty awesome about him. He's a legend.

So now you're not just deflecting 20 years you're going back 50+ to avoid talking about the issue?

Well, now you know Trump's plan. Get Russia to point nuclear warheads at us from close range, and the libs will only remember that he "stopped" them.

https://youtu.be/ctDhwraJRxs

mrussel1

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Sort of like Monica Lewinsky?

Oh, wait, that was only female attacking female for outing a man who committed workplace sexual abuse rather than supporting her. Faulty analogy.

Yes it's the first recorded time when a woman (or man) was angry with the person that slept with her/his spouse. In most everyday lives, the woman would side with the other woman and they would end up drinking International Coffee in Paris together. But Hillary being angry with Monica was WAY out of bounds and highly inconsistent with human behavior.

But, she's above all that. She represents all women, and how dare any of them vote against her. She's the pillar of all they stand for. And letting your husband get a blow job from an intern and attacking said intern is what that person stands for as a powerful woman.

I don't disagree with your human behavior comment. But, what kind of human?

And, if I ever got a BJ from an intern and my wife not only stayed with me, but attacked that woman publically, I think I'd have to divorce her.

Yeah sure you would.. You would certainly have the moral high ground in that situation.

mrussel1

Fox news is hyper focused on the "leaker". I guess Trump gave them the marching orders. Pathetic. Un-American.

ledvedderman

How can the fact of the leaker be anything but Trump's fault or the fault of his staff? If the leaker is an Obama holdover, guess what...that wouldn't have been the case had this administration been on the ball and staffed their White House during the transition. It's mind blowing.

BS44325

mrussel1 said:

Fox news is hyper focused on the "leaker". I guess Trump gave them the marching orders. Pathetic. Un-American.

Woah. During the Bush years it was considered "Un-American" to record the conversations of private US citizens. What changed? Does the fact you caught a fish you like make the release of these recordings all of the sudden necessary? How John Bolton of you!

tbergs

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Fox news is hyper focused on the "leaker". I guess Trump gave them the marching orders. Pathetic. Un-American.

Woah. During the Bush years it was considered "Un-American" to record the conversations of private US citizens. What changed? Does the fact you caught a fish you like make the release of these recordings all of the sudden necessary? How John Bolton of you!

I for one don't care if the government wants to record my phone calls. I don't have anything worth hiding, but maybe that changes when you are a CEO or government official because you're speaking out of your ass and mouth at the same time. We're already being monitored most of our day outside our homes by GPS in every device we own and video cameras everywhere we work, eat and drive. I take it as a given that I'm being recorded all the time. Anyone in government should already know all of what they do can easily be tracked. Flynn was an easy target if he's caught so simply.

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Sort of like Monica Lewinsky?

Oh, wait, that was only female attacking female for outing a man who committed workplace sexual abuse rather than supporting her. Faulty analogy.

Yes it's the first recorded time when a woman (or man) was angry with the person that slept with her/his spouse. In most everyday lives, the woman would side with the other woman and they would end up drinking International Coffee in Paris together. But Hillary being angry with Monica was WAY out of bounds and highly inconsistent with human behavior.

But, she's above all that. She represents all women, and how dare any of them vote against her. She's the pillar of all they stand for. And letting your husband get a blow job from an intern and attacking said intern is what that person stands for as a powerful woman.

I don't disagree with your human behavior comment. But, what kind of human?

And, if I ever got a BJ from an intern and my wife not only stayed with me, but attacked that woman publically, I think I'd have to divorce her.

Yeah sure you would.. You would certainly have the moral high ground in that situation.

utterly laughable.

HughFreakingDillon

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Fox news is hyper focused on the "leaker". I guess Trump gave them the marching orders. Pathetic. Un-American.

Woah. During the Bush years it was considered "Un-American" to record the conversations of private US citizens. What changed? Does the fact you caught a fish you like make the release of these recordings all of the sudden necessary? How John Bolton of you!

it's not as simple as him being a private citizen at the time of the conversation.

focusing on the "leaker" is the same as going to court and blaming the witness for your crime.

BS44325

tbergs said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Fox news is hyper focused on the "leaker". I guess Trump gave them the marching orders. Pathetic. Un-American.

Woah. During the Bush years it was considered "Un-American" to record the conversations of private US citizens. What changed? Does the fact you caught a fish you like make the release of these recordings all of the sudden necessary? How John Bolton of you!

I for one don't care if the government wants to record my phone calls. I don't have anything worth hiding, but maybe that changes when you are a CEO or government official because you're speaking out of your ass and mouth at the same time. We're already being monitored most of our day outside our homes by GPS in every device we own and video cameras everywhere we work, eat and drive. I take it as a given that I'm being recorded all the time. Anyone in government should already know all of what they do can easily be tracked. Flynn was an easy target if he's caught so simply.

I don't disagree with you but we should remember that it was a mix of both the left and the more libertarian right that was outrage by the recording of US citizens during the Bush years who were not the target of a FISA approved probe. It appears that rule was broken in this case.

EdsonNascimento

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Sort of like Monica Lewinsky?

Oh, wait, that was only female attacking female for outing a man who committed workplace sexual abuse rather than supporting her. Faulty analogy.

Yes it's the first recorded time when a woman (or man) was angry with the person that slept with her/his spouse. In most everyday lives, the woman would side with the other woman and they would end up drinking International Coffee in Paris together. But Hillary being angry with Monica was WAY out of bounds and highly inconsistent with human behavior.

But, she's above all that. She represents all women, and how dare any of them vote against her. She's the pillar of all they stand for. And letting your husband get a blow job from an intern and attacking said intern is what that person stands for as a powerful woman.

I don't disagree with your human behavior comment. But, what kind of human?

And, if I ever got a BJ from an intern and my wife not only stayed with me, but attacked that woman publically, I think I'd have to divorce her.

Yeah sure you would.. You would certainly have the moral high ground in that situation.

utterly laughable.

Did you guys miss the point of that last statement? Too funny. I'll try to talk slower next time.

mrussel1

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Sort of like Monica Lewinsky?

Oh, wait, that was only female attacking female for outing a man who committed workplace sexual abuse rather than supporting her. Faulty analogy.

Yes it's the first recorded time when a woman (or man) was angry with the person that slept with her/his spouse. In most everyday lives, the woman would side with the other woman and they would end up drinking International Coffee in Paris together. But Hillary being angry with Monica was WAY out of bounds and highly inconsistent with human behavior.

But, she's above all that. She represents all women, and how dare any of them vote against her. She's the pillar of all they stand for. And letting your husband get a blow job from an intern and attacking said intern is what that person stands for as a powerful woman.

I don't disagree with your human behavior comment. But, what kind of human?

And, if I ever got a BJ from an intern and my wife not only stayed with me, but attacked that woman publically, I think I'd have to divorce her.

Yeah sure you would.. You would certainly have the moral high ground in that situation.

utterly laughable.

Did you guys miss the point of that last statement? Too funny. I'll try to talk slower next time.

You can type as slow as you want. That won't make you cogent.

HughFreakingDillon

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Sort of like Monica Lewinsky?

Oh, wait, that was only female attacking female for outing a man who committed workplace sexual abuse rather than supporting her. Faulty analogy.

Yes it's the first recorded time when a woman (or man) was angry with the person that slept with her/his spouse. In most everyday lives, the woman would side with the other woman and they would end up drinking International Coffee in Paris together. But Hillary being angry with Monica was WAY out of bounds and highly inconsistent with human behavior.

But, she's above all that. She represents all women, and how dare any of them vote against her. She's the pillar of all they stand for. And letting your husband get a blow job from an intern and attacking said intern is what that person stands for as a powerful woman.

I don't disagree with your human behavior comment. But, what kind of human?

And, if I ever got a BJ from an intern and my wife not only stayed with me, but attacked that woman publically, I think I'd have to divorce her.

Yeah sure you would.. You would certainly have the moral high ground in that situation.

utterly laughable.

Did you guys miss the point of that last statement? Too funny. I'll try to talk slower next time.

please, do tell. because to this guy who apparently reads too quickly, it makes very little sense.

CM189191

Don't be corrupt, and you don't have to worry about leaks saying you're corrupt
The source of the leaks didn't matter if the content of the leaks was true
They are not leaks, it is called transparency

mrussel1

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Fox news is hyper focused on the "leaker". I guess Trump gave them the marching orders. Pathetic. Un-American.

Woah. During the Bush years it was considered "Un-American" to record the conversations of private US citizens. What changed? Does the fact you caught a fish you like make the release of these recordings all of the sudden necessary? How John Bolton of you!

Was he a citizen like everyone else or was he acting in the capacity of senior official of the transition team? Do we all have conversations with Russian ambassadors regarding sanctions. This one is truly false equivalency.

BS44325

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Fox news is hyper focused on the "leaker". I guess Trump gave them the marching orders. Pathetic. Un-American.

Woah. During the Bush years it was considered "Un-American" to record the conversations of private US citizens. What changed? Does the fact you caught a fish you like make the release of these recordings all of the sudden necessary? How John Bolton of you!

Was he a citizen like everyone else or was he acting in the capacity of senior official of the transition team? Do we all have conversations with Russian ambassadors regarding sanctions. This one is truly false equivalency.

Well this is an interesting question because democrats are stating that Flynn does not have "executive privilege" which means they are leaning towards labeling him as a private citizen. If he is a "senior official of the transition team" (which I and most people believe) then executive privilege should still apply even if Trump hadn't actually been sworn in at the time (probably a controversial point of law). Irrespective of this do the intelligence agencies have the right to ensnare a "senior official of the transition team" who was a non-target of the spying? My guess is nobody would think this is ok if the shoe was on the other foot. Would it have been ok for the CIA to release recordings of John Kerry discussing potentially illegal aspects of the Iran nuclear deal with an agent of Iran? Of course not.

HughFreakingDillon

EdsonNascimento said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

Sort of like Monica Lewinsky?

Oh, wait, that was only female attacking female for outing a man who committed workplace sexual abuse rather than supporting her. Faulty analogy.

Yes it's the first recorded time when a woman (or man) was angry with the person that slept with her/his spouse. In most everyday lives, the woman would side with the other woman and they would end up drinking International Coffee in Paris together. But Hillary being angry with Monica was WAY out of bounds and highly inconsistent with human behavior.

But, she's above all that. She represents all women, and how dare any of them vote against her. She's the pillar of all they stand for. And letting your husband get a blow job from an intern and attacking said intern is what that person stands for as a powerful woman.

I don't disagree with your human behavior comment. But, what kind of human?

And, if I ever got a BJ from an intern and my wife not only stayed with me, but attacked that woman publically, I think I'd have to divorce her.

Yeah sure you would.. You would certainly have the moral high ground in that situation.

utterly laughable.

Did you guys miss the point of that last statement? Too funny. I'll try to talk slower next time.

still waiting.