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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,619
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,496
    How great would it be if Trump was brought down by......... 

    wait for it......... 

    emails. 
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611
    so... this is pretty blatant, right?
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,496
    "If you believe Trump didn't know that his family and staff sought help from Moscow, then I have a degree from Trump University to sell you."
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    g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,122
    Merkin Baller said:
    "If you believe Trump didn't know that his family and staff sought help from Moscow, then I have a degree from Trump University to sell you."
    I was just going to say something like that. There's no way this info was not passed on to Chump.

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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    How a Pageant Led to a Trump Son’s Meeting With a Russian Lawyer - The New York Times
    https://apple.news/ATlRbp6W6Qq-mBS_7g74JOw

    So is The NY Times fake news too ? 

    its no coincidence that Trump Russia collusion and Russia election rigging was proven on Amazon prime day.
    Is The NY Times fake news ? 
    I'm not sure what fake news is but I'm certain the organization NYT,is not fake news.
    Wait until you see the email that the anonymous sources viewed! Coming soon
    Jr released the email chain! COLLUSION 101
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,619
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    How a Pageant Led to a Trump Son’s Meeting With a Russian Lawyer - The New York Times
    https://apple.news/ATlRbp6W6Qq-mBS_7g74JOw

    So is The NY Times fake news too ? 

    its no coincidence that Trump Russia collusion and Russia election rigging was proven on Amazon prime day.
    Is The NY Times fake news ? 
    I'm not sure what fake news is but I'm certain the organization NYT,is not fake news.
    Wait until you see the email that the anonymous sources viewed! Coming soon
    Jr released the email chain! COLLUSION 101
    CONSPIRACY 101
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    JC29856 said:
    josevolution said:
    How a Pageant Led to a Trump Son’s Meeting With a Russian Lawyer - The New York Times
    https://apple.news/ATlRbp6W6Qq-mBS_7g74JOw

    So is The NY Times fake news too ? 

    its no coincidence that Trump Russia collusion and Russia election rigging was proven on Amazon prime day.
    Is The NY Times fake news ? 
    I'm not sure what fake news is but I'm certain the organization NYT,is not fake news.
    Wait until you see the email that the anonymous sources viewed! Coming soon
    Jr released the email chain! COLLUSION 101

    Because he knew the NYT was about to release them...
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    Merkin Baller said:

    yeah, but have you guys heard about #pizzagate, the DNC server or this Podesta guy???

    Lol



    Everyone at the G20 was talking about John Podesta.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,496
    The Juggler said:
    Merkin Baller said:

    yeah, but have you guys heard about #pizzagate, the DNC server or this Podesta guy???

    Lol



    Everyone at the G20 was talking about John Podesta.

    Lol

    What an asshole.

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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    Hillary Clinton's former running mate, Sen. Tim Kaine, said Donald Trump Jr. may have committed treason when he agreed to meet with a Russian lawyer under the pretense of getting dirt on Clinton.

    "We are now beyond obstruction of justice," the Virginia Democrat told CNN Tuesday. "This is moving into perjury, false statements and even potentially treason."

    Tim Kaine has a law degree from Harvard!

    "moving into" perjury, false statements

    "potentially" treason

    Once Jr is convicted on all three counts, Sr will pardon him.


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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,496

    Lol


    Pizzagate

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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    JC29856 said:

    Hillary Clinton's former running mate, Sen. Tim Kaine, said Donald Trump Jr. may have committed treason when he agreed to meet with a Russian lawyer under the pretense of getting dirt on Clinton.

    "We are now beyond obstruction of justice," the Virginia Democrat told CNN Tuesday. "This is moving into perjury, false statements and even potentially treason."

    Tim Kaine has a law degree from Harvard!

    "moving into" perjury, false statements

    "potentially" treason

    Once Jr is convicted on all three counts, Sr will pardon him.



    Kushner lied on his disclosures about meeting with any Russians. I suspect Kain was talking about him since DonJ isn't in the campaign.


    And it's probably best to cite where you get your quotes from to provide some context. Thanks.

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,619
    The Juggler said:
    JC29856 said:

    Hillary Clinton's former running mate, Sen. Tim Kaine, said Donald Trump Jr. may have committed treason when he agreed to meet with a Russian lawyer under the pretense of getting dirt on Clinton.

    "We are now beyond obstruction of justice," the Virginia Democrat told CNN Tuesday. "This is moving into perjury, false statements and even potentially treason."

    Tim Kaine has a law degree from Harvard!

    "moving into" perjury, false statements

    "potentially" treason

    Once Jr is convicted on all three counts, Sr will pardon him.



    Kushner lied on his disclosures about meeting with any Russians. I suspect Kain was talking about him since DonJ isn't in the campaign.


    And it's probably best to cite where you get your quotes from to provide some context. Thanks.

    As did Flynn and Sessions. The firing of Comey looks a little more nefarious now doesn't it? And Preet Bahara's as well if you know who and what he was involved with investigating. Anyone want to connect the dot between Preet Bahara and the Russian lawyer that met with Jr., Manafort and Kushner? Connecting dots is fun.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    JC29856 said:

    Hillary Clinton's former running mate, Sen. Tim Kaine, said Donald Trump Jr. may have committed treason when he agreed to meet with a Russian lawyer under the pretense of getting dirt on Clinton.

    "We are now beyond obstruction of justice," the Virginia Democrat told CNN Tuesday. "This is moving into perjury, false statements and even potentially treason."

    Tim Kaine has a law degree from Harvard!

    "moving into" perjury, false statements

    "potentially" treason

    Once Jr is convicted on all three counts, Sr will pardon him.



    Kushner lied on his disclosures about meeting with any Russians. I suspect Kain was talking about him since DonJ isn't in the campaign.


    And it's probably best to cite where you get your quotes from to provide some context. Thanks.

    As did Flynn and Sessions. The firing of Comey looks a little more nefarious now doesn't it? And Preet Bahara's as well if you know who and what he was involved with investigating. Anyone want to connect the dot between Preet Bahara and the Russian lawyer that met with Jr., Manafort and Kushner? Connecting dots is fun.

    Bahara is a great follow on twitter.
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,113
    How does Tim Kaine get to treason based on those emails?

    This is part of the problem, always jumping to worst case for everything makes you the boy who cried wolf.

    This is bad news for trump jr and trump, but this isn't treason. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,619
    cincybearcat said:
    How does Tim Kaine get to treason based on those emails?

    This is part of the problem, always jumping to worst case for everything makes you the boy who cried wolf.

    This is bad news for trump jr and trump, but this isn't treason. 
    Depends on what the quid pro quo was. Remember that republican platform plank that was revised? 
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
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    Actively working with a foreign power to subvert and influence the US Presidential Election is pretty damn treasonous if you ask me
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
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    cincybearcat said:
    How does Tim Kaine get to treason based on those emails?

    This is part of the problem, always jumping to worst case for everything makes you the boy who cried wolf.

    This is bad news for trump jr and trump, but this isn't treason. 
    It's not even bad news for them.  Nobody cares.  The supporters see it as a deflection and "not letting him do his job."  The middle is numb.  Those who do care don't need more convincing.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    my2hands said:
    Actively working with a foreign power to subvert and influence the US Presidential Election is pretty damn treasonous if you ask me
    let's clarify what you're putting forth...
    accepting a single meeting with a Russian attorney (let's assume she is Putin's personal attorney) at the request of a friend for opposition dirt is actively working with a foreign power to subvert and influence the us presidential election?
    is Ukraine considered a "foreign power"?
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    JC29856 said:
    my2hands said:
    Actively working with a foreign power to subvert and influence the US Presidential Election is pretty damn treasonous if you ask me
    let's clarify what you're putting forth...
    accepting a single meeting with a Russian attorney (let's assume she is Putin's personal attorney) at the request of a friend for opposition dirt is actively working with a foreign power to subvert and influence the us presidential election?
    is Ukraine considered a "foreign power"?

    How do you know it is a single meeting? And it's not just "dirt." Email says Russian Gov was wanting to assist the campaign. This is probably tip of the iceberg stuff.


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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,113
    my2hands said:
    Actively working with a foreign power to subvert and influence the US Presidential Election is pretty damn treasonous if you ask me
    Perhaps....I dont think so,but I'm not a lawyer and I didnt even stay at a Holiday inn last night.

    But I really doubt it gets to that.  I've been wrong before....I thought Trump wouldn't win the GOP nomination....or the election....so my track record on this guy sucks.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,496

    Thoughts & prayers for those who are struggling to understand. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298

    "Russia and it's government's support for Mr. Trump."


    "I love it."


    haha

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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    "We're seeing money pouring in from Russia."
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    The Juggler said:
    JC29856 said:
    my2hands said:
    Actively working with a foreign power to subvert and influence the US Presidential Election is pretty damn treasonous if you ask me
    let's clarify what you're putting forth...
    accepting a single meeting with a Russian attorney (let's assume she is Putin's personal attorney) at the request of a friend for opposition dirt is actively working with a foreign power to subvert and influence the us presidential election?
    is Ukraine considered a "foreign power"?

    How do you know it is a single meeting? And it's not just "dirt." Email says Russian Gov was wanting to assist the campaign. This is probably tip of the iceberg stuff.


    are there reports of more than one meeting? I'm going off of the nyt story and those that are involved, I assumed others were too.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617


    https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2017/7/11/15953476/donald-trump-jr-russia-collusion-campaign-emails

    If Trump knew of the collusion with Russia, this scandal would be bigger than Watergate.

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,619
    JC29856 said:
    my2hands said:
    Actively working with a foreign power to subvert and influence the US Presidential Election is pretty damn treasonous if you ask me
    let's clarify what you're putting forth...
    accepting a single meeting with a Russian attorney (let's assume she is Putin's personal attorney) at the request of a friend for opposition dirt is actively working with a foreign power to subvert and influence the us presidential election?
    is Ukraine considered a "foreign power"?
    You're selectively or electively forgetting all the other threads of this tangled web. Evidence of absence is not absence of evidence. Context is everything.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    JC29856 said:
    The Juggler said:
    JC29856 said:
    my2hands said:
    Actively working with a foreign power to subvert and influence the US Presidential Election is pretty damn treasonous if you ask me
    let's clarify what you're putting forth...
    accepting a single meeting with a Russian attorney (let's assume she is Putin's personal attorney) at the request of a friend for opposition dirt is actively working with a foreign power to subvert and influence the us presidential election?
    is Ukraine considered a "foreign power"?

    How do you know it is a single meeting? And it's not just "dirt." Email says Russian Gov was wanting to assist the campaign. This is probably tip of the iceberg stuff.


    are there reports of more than one meeting? I'm going off of the nyt story and those that are involved, I assumed others were too.

    Not yet....but I would be surprised if more did not happen. None of these Trump people have any shred of credibility at this point. The "fake news" keeps diming them out....
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,619
    Session "forgot" to disclose that he met with the Russian ambassador. Can you connect the dots between the Russian ambassador and the Russian lawyer who met with Jr.? Connecting dots is fun.
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