Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    Weird for sure......

     his purpose isn’t clear and there’s no indication he asked for or received any coordination with them

    #fakenewstrumpapproved

    #smokescreen

    #gullibledistraction

    #Putinsays

    #CometPizzaMarsGroupon

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited July 2017
    Weird for sure......

     his purpose isn’t clear and there’s no indication he asked for or received any coordination with them

    #fakenewstrumpapproved

    #smokescreen

    #gullibledistraction

    #Putinsays

    #CometPizzaMarsGroupon


    Weird for sure......

     his purpose isn’t clear and there’s no indication he asked for or received any coordination with them

    #fakenewstrumpapproved

    #smokescreen

    #gullibledistraction

    #Putinsays

    #CometPizzaMarsGroupon


    CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    The Russians hacked and the trumpsters are ok with it but you can bet your bottom $ that if Russia hacked into our electricity grids they would be the 1st Americans crying how could this happen ! The Elections were just a trial run for Russia ! 

    Truth or Propaganda?
    Hey what has this administration done to make sure this kind of hacking doesn't happen again look it up and come back and show us thanks ..
    Same as other administrations.  Aren't you tired yet?
    So we should just let it continue rather than learn from the consequences of previous inaction?  That's all the pro-Truimpy's can ever say.  "What about when...." 

    To that, I say "What about NOW?"

    It's great logic, isn't it?

    "Obama didn't do anything, so why should Trump?"


    The stupidity is breathtaking.

    did we look investigate the dnc servers that were hacked?

    Yes we did. Show me we didn't. 
    Chuck
    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/national-security/313555-comey-fbi-did-request-access-to-hacked-dnc-servers

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/01/05/politics/fbi-russia-hacking-dnc-crowdstrike/index.html
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Weird for sure......

     his purpose isn’t clear and there’s no indication he asked for or received any coordination with them

    #fakenewstrumpapproved

    #smokescreen

    #gullibledistraction

    #Putinsays

    #CometPizzaMarsGroupon

    #littletoomuchtodrink
    #whydrunkpost?
    #hashtag
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    JC29856 said:
    Weird for sure......

     his purpose isn’t clear and there’s no indication he asked for or received any coordination with them

    #fakenewstrumpapproved

    #smokescreen

    #gullibledistraction

    #Putinsays

    #CometPizzaMarsGroupon

    #littletoomuchtodrink
    #whydrunkpost?
    #hashtag
    #notnearlyenough
    #itsfun
    #triggering
    #hashtagsquared#
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    When you meet with President Putin next week, you can count on him asking you why the U.S. is encircling Russia with antiballistic missile systems.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/03/what-trump-can-expect-from-putin/

    This Friday Trump and Putin meet face to face, BRACE! BRACE! BRACE!


  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    it is going to be a battle of wits, like ric flair vs dusty rhodes....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    JC29856 said:
    Weird for sure......

     his purpose isn’t clear and there’s no indication he asked for or received any coordination with them

    #fakenewstrumpapproved

    #smokescreen

    #gullibledistraction

    #Putinsays

    #CometPizzaMarsGroupon


    Weird for sure......

     his purpose isn’t clear and there’s no indication he asked for or received any coordination with them

    #fakenewstrumpapproved

    #smokescreen

    #gullibledistraction

    #Putinsays

    #CometPizzaMarsGroupon


    CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    The Russians hacked and the trumpsters are ok with it but you can bet your bottom $ that if Russia hacked into our electricity grids they would be the 1st Americans crying how could this happen ! The Elections were just a trial run for Russia ! 

    Truth or Propaganda?
    Hey what has this administration done to make sure this kind of hacking doesn't happen again look it up and come back and show us thanks ..
    Same as other administrations.  Aren't you tired yet?
    So we should just let it continue rather than learn from the consequences of previous inaction?  That's all the pro-Truimpy's can ever say.  "What about when...." 

    To that, I say "What about NOW?"

    It's great logic, isn't it?

    "Obama didn't do anything, so why should Trump?"


    The stupidity is breathtaking.

    did we look investigate the dnc servers that were hacked?

    Yes we did. Show me we didn't. 
    Chuck
    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/national-security/313555-comey-fbi-did-request-access-to-hacked-dnc-servers

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/01/05/politics/fbi-russia-hacking-dnc-crowdstrike/index.html

    "The DNC had several meetings with representatives of the FBI's Cyber Division and its Washington (DC) Field Office, the Department of Justice's National Security Division, and U.S. Attorney's Offices, and it responded to a variety of requests for cooperation, but the FBI never requested access to the DNC's computer servers," said Eric Walker, the DNC's deputy communications director, according to the report. Instead, Director James Comey's agency has relied on third-party tech security company Crowdstrike to confirm the DNC's servers were hacked, a U.S. official said. "Beginning at the time the intrusion was discovered by the DNC, the DNC cooperated fully with the FBI and its investigation, providing access to all of the information uncovered by CrowdStrike - without any limits," said Walker.

    Seems to me the DNC servers were investigated.  And the DNC shared information to the FBI that they had no obligation to provide.  What were you expecting?  The FBI would dust the server for signs of forced entry and Russian fingerprints?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    Putin is about to get what he wants.

    #PTAPE
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Trump team met with lawyer linked to Kremlin during campaign.

    Story. Still. Going. Away.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    dignin said:
    Trump team met with lawyer linked to Kremlin during campaign.

    Story. Still. Going. Away.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html
    Brilliant brilliance brilliantly on display.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    Follow the money, from Russia with love and demand to see the PTAPE, all the way to impeachment.

    Oh no, it's totally outside the realm of possibilities that a Trump PTAPE exists, said no one ever.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    What disappearing headlines look like 


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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    "1. We never met with the Russians, it's all hoax

    2. We met but we forgot about it 

    3. We met but it was about adoption

    4. IT WAS A SET UP"
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    edited July 2017
    There's absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing or attempted cover up you guys. 

    "Flynn: Met w/Russians; lied
    Page: Met w/Russians; lied
    Sessions: Met w/Russians; lied
    Kushner: Met w/Russians; lied
    Donald Trump Jr: Met w/Russians; lied"

    This story is totally going away soon you guys. 

    Edit: yup..... the Russia story is officially over, Cory Lewandoski sez so:  

    https://twitter.com/saletan/status/884050465608130561
    Post edited by Merkin Baller on
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    "cut it out"
    "that's behind us"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    There's absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing or attempted cover up you guys. 

    "Flynn: Met w/Russians; lied
    Page: Met w/Russians; lied
    Sessions: Met w/Russians; lied
    Kushner: Met w/Russians; lied
    Donald Trump Jr: Met w/Russians; lied"

    This story is totally going away soon you guys. 

    Edit: yup..... the Russia story is officially over, Cory Lewandoski sez so:  

    https://twitter.com/saletan/status/884050465608130561
    Donald Trump "believes" Putin as it relates to his statements about the Russian hacking.  They are moving past it...  

    The whole Putin meeting was pathetic.  No demands were made on them regarding Ukraine.  Trump went in without any demands or strategy so far as we can tell.  Worse, the Russians beat the Americans to the press releases, allowing them to shape the story.  Fucking amateur hour yet again.  Lindsey Graham's quote is funny.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/fmr-cia-director-brennan-says-trump-ceded-ground-putin-meeting-n781086
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    "cut it out"
    "that's behind us"
    "The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because…the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,033
    How often do we hear:

    "It's Obama's fault."
    "It's Russia's fault."

    compared to how often we ask ourselves how much of the problem is "we the people"?

    It's so much easier to have a scapegoat.  I don't think that's helping.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    brianlux said:
    How often do we hear:

    "It's Obama's fault."
    "It's Russia's fault."

    compared to how often we ask ourselves how much of the problem is "we the people"?

    It's so much easier to have a scapegoat.  I don't think that's helping.
    Yup, the problem is 100% with the people. We don't hold our politicians or media accountable, apathy has become the American way. 

    That doesnt mean this current admin admin isn't a bunch of treasonous bastards. 

  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,033
    brianlux said:
    How often do we hear:

    "It's Obama's fault."
    "It's Russia's fault."

    compared to how often we ask ourselves how much of the problem is "we the people"?

    It's so much easier to have a scapegoat.  I don't think that's helping.
    Yup, the problem is 100% with the people. We don't hold our politicians or media accountable, apathy has become the American way. 

    That doesnt mean this current admin admin isn't a bunch of treasonous bastards. 

    Exactly, Merkin!
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    the problem lies with those that hold governmental positions and are careless with online security or those that fall victim to phishing scams or those that have passwords as "Password1"
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    JC29856 said:
    the problem lies with those that hold governmental positions and are careless with online security or those that fall victim to phishing scams or those that have passwords as "Password1"
    Exactly. It's totally the girl's fault she got raped. When you're wearing a skirt like that, you're practically begging for it. 
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited July 2017
    JC29856 said:
    the problem lies with those that hold governmental positions and are careless with online security or those that fall victim to phishing scams or those that have passwords as "Password1"
    Exactly. It's totally the girl's fault she got raped. When you're wearing a skirt like that, you're practically begging for it. 
    really? serious?
    you're actually comparing rape to online phishing scams and silly passwords.
    you may want to reconsider your post. please...
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Nope. I stand by my comment 100%. You're doing a form of blaming the victim for what happened to them- and I'm pointing out that your point is ridiculous. 
    Hacking political opponents and state election databases isn't your run of the mill phishing and hacking. Especially when done by a known enemy of our country. 
  • There was nothing then and there is nothing now folks, especially after the last G20.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-putin-russian-hacking-election-tillerson-2017-7
    Asked by NBC's Hallie Jackson if he could "definitively say that Russia interfered" in the 2016 presidential election, which multiple US intelligence agencies have concluded, Trump said "I've said it very simply," Trump said. "I think it could very well have been Russia. But I think it could well have been other countries. I won't be specific. But I think a lot of people interfere. I think it's been happening for a long time. It's been happening for many, many years."

  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    The problem is that what he says there is directly opposite of what his intelligence community has concluded and told him multiple times. It's not, "it could be Russia". The answer is, "It was Russia". 
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    The problem is that what he says there is directly opposite of what his intelligence community has concluded and told him multiple times. It's not, "it could be Russia". The answer is, "It was Russia". 
    you can argue victim blaming but it's very very insensitive to label it rape victim blaming...ok let's move on. any explanation why the 3 intelligence agency's don't hold the same level of confidence in pinning it on Russia Russia Russia?
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    The problem is that what he says there is directly opposite of what his intelligence community has concluded and told him multiple times. It's not, "it could be Russia". The answer is, "It was Russia". 
    Even the Trump appointed UN ambassador Nikki Haley says "Everybody knows" Russia meddled in our election (http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/un-ambassador-haley-everybody-knows-russia-meddled-in-election )

    Today we had Trump Jr admit to taking a meeting w/ a Russian attorney last summer  because she supposedly had damaging info on Clinton. He bailed on the meeting when he realized she had no info on the DNC. 

    Wow. 

    This story is DEFINITELY going away soon.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited July 2017
    Crowdstrikes(s)
    1. sony hack - wrong and retracked
    2. Ukraine hack - wrong and retracted
    3. DNC servers - partially retracted

    Nikki Haley? she can't wait to send your kids to war, any war!
    Russia Russia Russia, North Korea or any of the 8 countries we've bombed 100,000 times over the last 8.5 years.
    Here's free advice for progressives:
    1. never quote Nikki Haley
    2. pay more attention Tulsi Gabbard
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