Russia's Influence On The American Election

The Juggler

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

Mueller probe is a fail

You have a minimum number of crimes threshold that is unmet?

haha

my2hands

Yeah, the only one that matters...

Honestly, what do they have with those indictments? It's all ticky-tack bs like porn star payments or completely unrelated to the campaign/Trump.... this has been built up in the public eye and so far, I'm not seeing the money shot... he will come out of this untouched and it will play right into his hand in 2020... 

Stormy payoffs? Nobody cares
Roger talked to Wikileaks? So what
What else so far?

The left leaning media like MSNBC is already saying a short report is a good report, and that it could lead to MORE investigations... hilarious, they are already preparing people for the soft landing that they have bupkus on Trump

This was built up to show direct COLLUSION between Trump campaign and Russia, and that maybe Trump was compromised and beholden to Putin.... well, if they dont produce a smoking gun showing that then this is a total fail and plays into the Trump narrative and works to his benefit in 2020

I think that is why Halifax is quiet, this is beginning to look like a flop

The Juggler

Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.

my2hands

The Juggler said:

Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.

Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?

The Juggler

Why are you under the impression that Stormy Daniels has anything to do with the Russia investigation?

mrussel1

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.

Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?

Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?

mrussel1

And the media swings back and forth on the basis of group think.  If you are swinging with them,  that's on you... not Mueller who just does his work. 

Halifax2TheMax

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.

Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?

Guess you’re all caught up in the 6 corporations that control 90% of the media and not reading the source documents, like Manafort’s sentencing memo? And social media can’t possibly sway an election.

dignin

Halifax2TheMax said:

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.

Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?

Guess you’re all caught up in the 6 corporations that control 90% of the media and not reading the source documents, like Manafort’s sentencing memo? And social media can’t possibly sway an election.

The hypocrisy is pretty funny. 

2hands, good for a laugh.

my2hands

You guys are locked in a bubble 

my2hands

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.

Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?

Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?

So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

If that's it, this is all a fail

my2hands

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.

Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?

Guess you’re all caught up in the 6 corporations that control 90% of the media and not reading the source documents, like Manafort’s sentencing memo? And social media can’t possibly sway an election.

The hypocrisy is pretty funny. 

2hands, good for a laugh.

You seem to have a beef with me Canadian...

Where is the hypocrisy?

Any comment on the fruits of the investigation, or lack thereof? Or just trolling me as usual?

Halifax2TheMax

For old times sake 

“There was no collusion.”

”I don’t know any Russians.”
”I have nothing to hide.”
”I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”
”We do everything by the book.”

“Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

“Very legal, very cool.”

Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.

mrussel1

my2hands said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.

Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?

Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?

So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

If that's it, this is all a fail

Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 

my2hands

Halifax2TheMax said:

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.

Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?

Guess you’re all caught up in the 6 corporations that control 90% of the media and not reading the source documents, like Manafort’s sentencing memo? And social media can’t possibly sway an election.

The sentencing for crimes that have nothing to do with Trump? That sentencing?

Don't even start with the GOP platform change going into the convention, nobody cares and the people that do already know about it, forgot about it, and wont be voting Trump in 2020 anyway

my2hands

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.

Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?

Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?

So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

If that's it, this is all a fail

Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 

I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day

my2hands

Halifax2TheMax said:

For old times sake 

“There was no collusion.”

”I don’t know any Russians.”
”I have nothing to hide.”
”I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”
”We do everything by the book.”

“Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

“Very legal, very cool.”

Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.

All of that means nothing... and actually, when there is no collusion, it is going to mean A LOT for Trump going into 2020

Halifax2TheMax

my2hands said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.

Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?

Guess you’re all caught up in the 6 corporations that control 90% of the media and not reading the source documents, like Manafort’s sentencing memo? And social media can’t possibly sway an election.

The sentencing for crimes that have nothing to do with Trump? That sentencing?

Don't even start with the GOP platform change going into the convention, nobody cares and the people that do already know about it, forgot about it, and wont be voting Trump in 2020 anyway

“Nothing to do with Team Trump Treason.” Pauley Manafort is just some passing schmoe? I mean, I know it’s complicated and kind of boring when the talking heads aren’t screaming about it and it is difficult to remember all the connected dots and all but this ain’t over until Team Mueller, and by extension the dem house say it’s over. Your desires mean squat in that equation.

mrussel1

my2hands said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.

Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?

Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?

So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

If that's it, this is all a fail

Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 

I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day

So if there's evidence that the campaign coordinated with wiki to time the release of the emails,  and that's a criminal conspiracy,  but... there isn't evidence that Trump personally knew,  you think it's a wasted investigation? Let's assume Don jr. Is implicated.  So same... fail? 

If so,  then any hope you had was misguided from the start. I never had any hope that he personally would be able to be indicted on campaign conspiracy.  It's his entire staff, and the political damage that would result as a consequence. 

The Juggler

my2hands said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

mrussel1 said:

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Report's not even out and people are already making declarations about what's in it. Ha.

Tell that to the mainstream media... I'm just reading between the lines 

If they had evidence of collusion or being compromised, it would have been out long ago and they would have taken him down... instead we have porn stars and whacky Roger Stone talking to Wikileaks... that's it from what I can tell, all the other indictments have nothing to do with Trump or the campaign, or am I missing something?

Well wacky Stone coordinating the release of stolen emails on behalf of the campaign is a criminal conspiracy.  The cyber theft is serious.  I don't know that Trump will be personally implicated since here doesn't use emails,  but members of his campaign would likely be,  including Stone.  You don't find that appalling and serious?

So that's your smoking gun? That's the result of a 2 year investigation? Roger f'ing Stone talking to Wikileaks is it?

If that's it, this is all a fail

Talking and coordinating are very different.  You are using verbs that deliberately downplay a criminal conspiracy.  Second,  you continue to ignore the multitude of crimes that have been prosecuted.   Third,  you are listening to talking heads that need something to discuss 24/7. How about letting it play out before you render judgment? That would be novel. 

I am not listening to any talking heads... I see headlines and I read between the lines... trust me, I dont waste my time listening to paid pundits who say anything to support their team

Ok... coordinating... if that's all you've got, it's a fail and wont effect Trump in the slightest 

I'm not ignoring the other prosecutions, they have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, collusion, or being compromised.... so yeah, they mean squat at the end of the day

If you read the actual articles instead of just the headlines, maybe you’d know more. Like how the Stormy Daniels issue is unrelated to the Russia investigation.