pipe bomb explodes at military race in new jersey and now a bomb explodes in nyc

unsung

Just as long as you guys agree to do that at the next shooting and don't immediately call for ar15 bans.

bootlegger10

unsung said:

Just as long as you guys agree to do that at the next shooting and don't immediately call for ar15 bans.

What purpose does an AR15 serve in the hands of the public?

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Degeneratefk said:

It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.

Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Degeneratefk said:

It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.

Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....

Do you think it's probably some other group/individual? Why don't you throw a reasonable alternative so that people making assumptions should pause before they do?

HughFreakingDillon

Godfather. said:

muslim radicals' ? I'd bet on it....probably just the that "small percentage" of immigrants. I have to call it like I see it and this is just
too common to be called a "coincidence" everybody thinks it but are afraid to say it.

Godfather.

A few bad gun owners? Dont take away my rights!
A few bad muslims? Take away all their rights!

mcgruff10

unsung said:

josevolution said:

Godfather. said:

muslim radicals' ? I'd bet on it....probably just the that "small percentage" of immigrants. I have to call it like I see it and this is just
too common to be called a "coincidence" everybody thinks it but are afraid to say it.

Godfather.

Damn it took you longer than usual to blame the Muslims I thought you would of called it last night , you're loosing a step GF !!

Reports from Minnesota stabbing was that they were yelling Allah akbar.

fuck. two bombings and a really bad stabbing while yelling "allah" all during the same night; I don't believe in coincidences!

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Degeneratefk said:

It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.

Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....

Do you think it's probably some other group/individual? Why don't you throw a reasonable alternative so that people making assumptions should pause before they do?

I have no idea. TBH, when I first read about the explosion my first thought was "jilted lover" because I have seen stories about this being a somewhat common thing, where some nut job whose girlfriend or wife kicked him out tries to burn down their apartment building, and I know this because that exact thing happened in an apartment building where I lived back in the 90s.
But after reading about another reason bomb... I still have no idea. I think domestic terrorism is just as likely. I have to honestly say that while of course it's one of the main options, and perhaps what's happened in NYC, my mind doesn't just automatically jump to Islamic terrorism when these kinds of events occur, as though that is by far the most likely culprit.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

They're running away with the scoring title right now, PJSoul.

Jilted lover? Blowing randoms up versus killing his ex? Not near as likely as some brainwashed idiot following suit.

mcgruff10

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Degeneratefk said:

It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.

Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....

Do you think it's probably some other group/individual? Why don't you throw a reasonable alternative so that people making assumptions should pause before they do?

I have no idea. TBH, when I first read about the explosion my first thought was "jilted lover" because I have seen stories about this being a somewhat common thing, where some nut job whose girlfriend or wife kicked him out tries to burn down their apartment building, and I know this because that exact thing happened in an apartment building where I lived back in the 90s.
But after reading about another reason bomb... I still have no idea. I think domestic terrorism is just as likely. I have to honestly say that while of course it's one of the main options, and perhaps what's happened in NYC, my mind doesn't just automatically jump to Islamic terrorism when these kinds of events occur, as though that is by far the most likely culprit.

jilted lover using pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs? I've never heard of that happening before.

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

They're running away with the scoring title right now, PJSoul.

Jilted lover? Blowing randoms up versus killing his ex? Not near as likely as some brainwashed idiot following suit.

No, I'm not saying I think that with more info, nor that that is a likely scenario in general. I meant when I first heard about it, like minutes after, it crossed my mind because it sounded like the target was an apartment building, and when it's a residential target, the chances are higher that it's a personal thing.

PJ_Soul

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Degeneratefk said:

It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.

Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....

Do you think it's probably some other group/individual? Why don't you throw a reasonable alternative so that people making assumptions should pause before they do?

I have no idea. TBH, when I first read about the explosion my first thought was "jilted lover" because I have seen stories about this being a somewhat common thing, where some nut job whose girlfriend or wife kicked him out tries to burn down their apartment building, and I know this because that exact thing happened in an apartment building where I lived back in the 90s.
But after reading about another reason bomb... I still have no idea. I think domestic terrorism is just as likely. I have to honestly say that while of course it's one of the main options, and perhaps what's happened in NYC, my mind doesn't just automatically jump to Islamic terrorism when these kinds of events occur, as though that is by far the most likely culprit.

jilted lover using pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs? I've never heard of that happening before.

I didn't say that's ever happened, and didn't suggest that might be the case here.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Degeneratefk said:

It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.

Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....

Do you think it's probably some other group/individual? Why don't you throw a reasonable alternative so that people making assumptions should pause before they do?

I have no idea. TBH, when I first read about the explosion my first thought was "jilted lover" because I have seen stories about this being a somewhat common thing, where some nut job whose girlfriend or wife kicked him out tries to burn down their apartment building, and I know this because that exact thing happened in an apartment building where I lived back in the 90s.
But after reading about another reason bomb... I still have no idea. I think domestic terrorism is just as likely. I have to honestly say that while of course it's one of the main options, and perhaps what's happened in NYC, my mind doesn't just automatically jump to Islamic terrorism when these kinds of events occur, as though that is by far the most likely culprit.

jilted lover using pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs? I've never heard of that happening before.

I didn't say that's ever happened, and didn't suggest that might be the case here.

Well come on, man.

You're confusing scruffy and I. With scruffy... that's not hard to do, but when you factor in genius here... you might want to think about what you said.

Degeneratefk

unsung said:

Just as long as you guys agree to do that at the next shooting and don't immediately call for ar15 bans.

That has nothing to do with waiting g for an investigation.

Degeneratefk

http://nypost.com/2016/09/18/there-will-be-more-chilling-911-call-after-the-chelsea-explosion/


Let's all keep,jumping to conclusions.

Degeneratefk

Degeneratefk said:

http://nypost.com/2016/09/18/there-will-be-more-chilling-911-call-after-the-chelsea-explosion/


Let's all keep,jumping to conclusions.

Meanwhile, sources said investigators were “vetting” an online Tumblr page on which someone claiming to be “the NY Bomber” took responsibility for the blast and said the motive was a response to anti-gay “violence and oppression.”

“I did it because I cannot stand society. I cannot live in a world where homosexuals like myself as well as the rest of the LGBTQ+ community are looked down upon by society,” one post says.

Cliffy6745

Degeneratefk said:

Degeneratefk said:

http://nypost.com/2016/09/18/there-will-be-more-chilling-911-call-after-the-chelsea-explosion/


Let's all keep,jumping to conclusions.

Meanwhile, sources said investigators were “vetting” an online Tumblr page on which someone claiming to be “the NY Bomber” took responsibility for the blast and said the motive was a response to anti-gay “violence and oppression.”

“I did it because I cannot stand society. I cannot live in a world where homosexuals like myself as well as the rest of the LGBTQ+ community are looked down upon by society,” one post says.

So they attack a pretty gay area of New York. That doesn't make a ton of sense

hedonist

Is that kind of like what happened in Orlando?

mcgruff10

Degeneratefk said:

Degeneratefk said:

http://nypost.com/2016/09/18/there-will-be-more-chilling-911-call-after-the-chelsea-explosion/


Let's all keep,jumping to conclusions.

Meanwhile, sources said investigators were “vetting” an online Tumblr page on which someone claiming to be “the NY Bomber” took responsibility for the blast and said the motive was a response to anti-gay “violence and oppression.”

“I did it because I cannot stand society. I cannot live in a world where homosexuals like myself as well as the rest of the LGBTQ+ community are looked down upon by society,” one post says.

did you purposely leave out this part of the article?:
In another new wrinkle, a hand-written letter, a portion of which is in Arabic, was found inside a plastic bag that held the second device, sources said.

Cops were interviewing two men who claim to have spotted a potential person of interest in the case, sources said.

The witnesses were dining at the Krush bar and grill on 32nd Street about a half-hour before the 8:30 p.m. Saturday explosion when they saw an Arab-looking man who was carrying a suitcase and appeared out of place, sources said.

mcgruff10

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Degeneratefk said:

It would be nice if we could all just wait and see what an investigation yields.

At the risk of being wrong, it's a pretty safe assumption these days.

Oh? How do you figure? Not looking to minimize terrorist attacks or anything, but I am always interested in the real risk vs the assumed risk....

Do you think it's probably some other group/individual? Why don't you throw a reasonable alternative so that people making assumptions should pause before they do?

I have no idea. TBH, when I first read about the explosion my first thought was "jilted lover" because I have seen stories about this being a somewhat common thing, where some nut job whose girlfriend or wife kicked him out tries to burn down their apartment building, and I know this because that exact thing happened in an apartment building where I lived back in the 90s.
But after reading about another reason bomb... I still have no idea. I think domestic terrorism is just as likely. I have to honestly say that while of course it's one of the main options, and perhaps what's happened in NYC, my mind doesn't just automatically jump to Islamic terrorism when these kinds of events occur, as though that is by far the most likely culprit.

jilted lover using pipe bombs and pressure cooker bombs? I've never heard of that happening before.

I didn't say that's ever happened, and didn't suggest that might be the case here.

then what the heck does this mean?
"I have no idea. TBH, when I first read about the explosion my first thought was "jilted lover" because I have seen stories about this being a somewhat common thing, where some nut job whose girlfriend or wife kicked him out tries to burn down their apartment building, and I know this because that exact thing happened in an apartment building where I lived back in the 90s."

Cliffy6745

hedonist said:

Is that kind of like what happened in Orlando?

Yeah, I guess you're right. Though that dude seemed to be angry at being gay though