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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    I was on vacation in the Canadian Rockies last week during the RNC shit storm circus. I couldn't be happier that I missed it.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,799
    Degeneratefk said:

    what dreams said:

    Just curious. Has anybody read the 20,000 emails? I know you all have read reports of the emails. But have you sat down and actually studied the original 20,000 emails so you can quote them here in your own original analysis of the situation, as opposed to what some partisan blog has told you to believe? All any of you can say is "think for yourself, you puppets!"and yet I see no evidence at all that any of you making such pleas actually do so yourself. You think if you post a video here, or a wiki blog there, that you somehow have proven you know more than anyone else. But I see nobody quoting the actual primary source under question. None of you have proven anything except that you enjoy perpetuating the shit show.

    I don't have to read 20,000 emails to be able to think for myself. I will take the word of the FBI director when he said that of the 20,000 about 100 of them may have contained some classified information.
    Wrong 20,000. Talking about the DNC emails.

    As for the FBI's findings, I dont recall Comey saying any of those sent designated as classified in some form went tothose unauthorized ro see them.

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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    I'm 10 pages deep in the WikiLeaks. So far, no evidence that the DNC rigged the election. There is plenty of evidence that the Bernie Sanders people have been major pains in the ass every step of the way. The Nevada delegates are special assholes.

    "Whiny little bitches," as Bill Maher likes to say of Trump. Apply to Sanders: "Whaaaaa, we don't like the rules . . . " Bunch of cry babies.

    If I do finally get to a point where any DNC official says anything conspiratorial or anti-Semitic, I'll link it. FYI, doing a key word search of the 20,000 emails, only 1500 of the emails have the name Bernie Sanders in them. Most of them are news round-ups, with the media repeating and ratcheting up the same whiny little bitch stuff. The only staffer insertions I've read so far are basic "fyi, we need to respond again" and approval of statements.

    So, the next time anyone says there are 20,000 emails proving the system is rigged: bullshit. There are 1500 emails with Sanders name in them, and I'm hard pressed to find anything remotely conspiratorial.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    what dreams said:

    I'm 10 pages deep in the WikiLeaks. So far, no evidence that the DNC rigged the election. There is plenty of evidence that the Bernie Sanders people have been major pains in the ass every step of the way. The Nevada delegates are special assholes.

    "Whiny little bitches," as Bill Maher likes to say of Trump. Apply to Sanders: "Whaaaaa, we don't like the rules . . . " Bunch of cry babies.

    If I do finally get to a point where any DNC official says anything conspiratorial or anti-Semitic, I'll link it. FYI, doing a key word search of the 20,000 emails, only 1500 of the emails have the name Bernie Sanders in them. Most of them are news round-ups, with the media repeating and ratcheting up the same whiny little bitch stuff. The only staffer insertions I've read so far are basic "fyi, we need to respond again" and approval of statements.

    So, the next time anyone says there are 20,000 emails proving the system is rigged: bullshit. There are 1500 emails with Sanders name in them, and I'm hard pressed to find anything remotely conspiratorial.

    Whoa! Really go the anger thing going strong today:
    "major pains in the ass"
    "special assholes"
    "Whiny little bitches"
    "Bunch of cry babies"
    "whiny little bitch stuff"
    "bullshit"

    Classy.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mickeyrat said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    what dreams said:

    Just curious. Has anybody read the 20,000 emails? I know you all have read reports of the emails. But have you sat down and actually studied the original 20,000 emails so you can quote them here in your own original analysis of the situation, as opposed to what some partisan blog has told you to believe? All any of you can say is "think for yourself, you puppets!"and yet I see no evidence at all that any of you making such pleas actually do so yourself. You think if you post a video here, or a wiki blog there, that you somehow have proven you know more than anyone else. But I see nobody quoting the actual primary source under question. None of you have proven anything except that you enjoy perpetuating the shit show.

    I don't have to read 20,000 emails to be able to think for myself. I will take the word of the FBI director when he said that of the 20,000 about 100 of them may have contained some classified information.
    Wrong 20,000. Talking about the DNC emails.

    As for the FBI's findings, I dont recall Comey saying any of those sent designated as classified in some form went tothose unauthorized ro see them.

    Yes he did. If you watched the whole day of testimony, specifically the questioning by Jason Chaffetz, Comey stated that neither the server administrator nor Hillary's lawyers had authorization to read the emails. He conceded that they all had access to classified information under Clinton's direction.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    It's official. Debbie Wasseman Schultz is resigning at the end of the week. I am not sure that's ever happened before a party's convention before. Talk about a party in disarray.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    BS44325 said:

    It's official. Debbie Wasseman Schultz is resigning at the end of the week. I am not sure that's ever happened before a party's convention before. Talk about a party in disarray.

    Lol. When most of the Republican party doesn't like their candidate you want to say that the Democratic party is in disarray. That's comical.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Degeneratefk said:

    BS44325 said:

    It's official. Debbie Wasseman Schultz is resigning at the end of the week. I am not sure that's ever happened before a party's convention before. Talk about a party in disarray.

    Lol. When most of the Republican party doesn't like their candidate you want to say that the Democratic party is in disarray. That's comical.
    Both can be true
  • EM194007
    EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    BS44325 said:

    It's official. Debbie Wasseman Schultz is resigning at the end of the week. I am not sure that's ever happened before a party's convention before. Talk about a party in disarray.

    She was outed last month, they were just going to let her save face and act like she was still in charge of the DNC.

    "DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz has turned over her duties to Brandon Davis, National Political Coordinator for the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), who was installed by the Clinton campaign. Wasserman Schultz will retain her title as DNC Chair until the Democratic Party votes on a successor."

    http://observer.com/2016/06/dnc-chair-debbie-wasserman-schultz-is-finally-kicked-to-the-curb/

    Now she needs to resign here House seat. If not, hopefully they won't put her back in office for two more years.
  • EM194007
    EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    Another Blow for Bernie: Philadelphia Denies DNC Rally Permit.

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Another-Blow-for-Bernie-DNC-Rally-Permit-Denied-by-City-of-Philadelphia-387098081.html
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Not surprising.

    Hillary Clinton is thanking her "longtime friend" Debbie Wasserman Schultz after the Florida congresswoman's decision to step down as chair of the Democratic National Committee.

    "Clinton says that Wasserman Schultz will serve as honorary chair of her campaign's 50-state program to help elect Democrats around the country."
    http://m.greensboro.com/ap/politics/the-latest-clinton-wasserman-schultz-to-have-campaign-role/article_3864d12f-50f1-568b-80d7-fe3fb5861d8a.html?mode=jqm
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    edited July 2016
    EM194007 said:

    Another Blow for Bernie: Philadelphia Denies DNC Rally Permit.

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Another-Blow-for-Bernie-DNC-Rally-Permit-Denied-by-City-of-Philadelphia-387098081.html

    This isn't probably accurate, or at least representative of the situation. If they were requesting for a rally on ashburn field, it would never be approved. That's a very nice baseball field that they would never let a protest on. Bernie folks are going to have a big protest/rally in FDR park, but not that specific location. There were already people down there yesterday

    Edit: Just to add, they already have screens set up down there for protesters to watch. Just not on that field. Non issue
    Post edited by Cliffy6745 on
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    Well, I've searched high and low for the smoking gun. Nada. One e-mail where DWS calls Jeff Weaver "a damn liar" and "scummy" for weaving his spin about what happened in Nevada. After five hours and every search term imaginable, I found not one single mention of Sanders's religion. I saw one hashtag #ImWithHer at the top of a Clinton statement condemning the deportation of refugee children back to war torn countries. I didn't find any emails suggesting the DNC needs to fix the election in Clinton's favor.

    I did read a lot of news reports forwarded to the DNC by news outlets with the Sanders camp making accusations and putting the DNC in an unfounded, defensive posture. The major allegations had to do with fundraising for the DNC and the state parties (Sanders refused to do so and called it money-laundering), Nevada convention (cripes, those delegates were totally out of line), and unfair Sanders representation at Philadelphia convention. Each time, the Sanders team chose to use the press as its bully pulpit instead of "negotiating in good faith" (Wasserman-Schultz Schiltz) and left the DNC no choice but to defend its practices and rules that have been in place since the Kerry nominee days.

    As usual, much to do about nothing. Lying Trump says she "attacks Sanders heritage," multiple talking heads calling it a conspiracy to elect Clinton, now it's the Russians. Quit watching and reading the news, people. If you have five hours to read your Twitter feed, you have five hours to read WikiLeaks. I did it, and found nothing to be alarmed by.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    what dreams said:

    Well, I've searched high and low for the smoking gun. Nada. One e-mail where DWS calls Jeff Weaver "a damn liar" and "scummy" for weaving his spin about what happened in Nevada. After five hours and every search term imaginable, I found not one single mention of Sanders's religion. I saw one hashtag #ImWithHer at the top of a Clinton statement condemning the deportation of refugee children back to war torn countries. I didn't find any emails suggesting the DNC needs to fix the election in Clinton's favor.

    I did read a lot of news reports forwarded to the DNC by news outlets with the Sanders camp making accusations and putting the DNC in an unfounded, defensive posture. The major allegations had to do with fundraising for the DNC and the state parties (Sanders refused to do so and called it money-laundering), Nevada convention (cripes, those delegates were totally out of line), and unfair Sanders representation at Philadelphia convention. Each time, the Sanders team chose to use the press as its bully pulpit instead of "negotiating in good faith" (Wasserman-Schultz Schiltz) and left the DNC no choice but to defend its practices and rules that have been in place since the Kerry nominee days.

    As usual, much to do about nothing. Lying Trump says she "attacks Sanders heritage," multiple talking heads calling it a conspiracy to elect Clinton, now it's the Russians. Quit watching and reading the news, people. If you have five hours to read your Twitter feed, you have five hours to read WikiLeaks. I did it, and found nothing to be alarmed by.

    https://youtu.be/fJS5M6irj5g
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    Well, I didn't find the email where she said "He's not going to be president" but if she said that in May, it was hardly a biased statement. That was a fact in May.

    ere was an email about a "narrative" but that was part of the Nevada debacle. They were dealing with the NV Democratic Party filing criminal charges against the campaign because of their nonsense, and they were trying to figure out how to keep the DNC out if it because the DNC was not involved in the state convention.

    I used the srarch words "religion" "faith" "Jewish"and "atheist" and got nothing. I'll go back now and try Kentucky and whatever that other state is in the video reference.

    So, my question remains, BS et. al. --Are you willing to do your due diligence? I don't expect you to take my word for anything, any more than I take the word of that guy's video on the religion thing. Fact check. It's not that hard.
  • Asterisk on the Street
    Asterisk on the Street Posts: 850
    what dreams said:

    Well, I've searched high and low for the smoking gun. Nada. One e-mail where DWS calls Jeff Weaver "a damn liar" and "scummy" for weaving his spin about what happened in Nevada. After five hours and every search term imaginable, I found not one single mention of Sanders's religion. I saw one hashtag #ImWithHer at the top of a Clinton statement condemning the deportation of refugee children back to war torn countries. I didn't find any emails suggesting the DNC needs to fix the election in Clinton's favor.

    I did read a lot of news reports forwarded to the DNC by news outlets with the Sanders camp making accusations and putting the DNC in an unfounded, defensive posture. The major allegations had to do with fundraising for the DNC and the state parties (Sanders refused to do so and called it money-laundering), Nevada convention (cripes, those delegates were totally out of line), and unfair Sanders representation at Philadelphia convention. Each time, the Sanders team chose to use the press as its bully pulpit instead of "negotiating in good faith" (Wasserman-Schultz Schiltz) and left the DNC no choice but to defend its practices and rules that have been in place since the Kerry nominee days.

    As usual, much to do about nothing. Lying Trump says she "attacks Sanders heritage," multiple talking heads calling it a conspiracy to elect Clinton, now it's the Russians. Quit watching and reading the news, people. If you have five hours to read your Twitter feed, you have five hours to read WikiLeaks. I did it, and found nothing to be alarmed by.

    Here is one email exchange to start:

    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508

    Re: No shit

    From:DaceyA@dnc.org
    To: MARSHALL@dnc.org, MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org
    Date: 2016-05-05 12:23
    Subject: Re: No shit


    AMEN
    Amy K. Dacey | Chief Executive Officer

    Democratic National Committee

    430 S. Capitol Street, SE Washington, D.C. 20003
    202-528-7492 (c) | 202-314-2263 (o)
    DaceyA@dnc.org


    On 5/5/16, 1:33 AM, "Brad Marshall" wrote:

    >It's these Jesus thing.
    >
    >> On May 5, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Brad Marshall wrote:
    >>
    >> It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to
    >>ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he
    >>has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could
    >>make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps
    >>would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.


  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Asterisk on the Street said:

    what dreams said:

    Well, I've searched high and low for the smoking gun. Nada. One e-mail where DWS calls Jeff Weaver "a damn liar" and "scummy" for weaving his spin about what happened in Nevada. After five hours and every search term imaginable, I found not one single mention of Sanders's religion. I saw one hashtag #ImWithHer at the top of a Clinton statement condemning the deportation of refugee children back to war torn countries. I didn't find any emails suggesting the DNC needs to fix the election in Clinton's favor.

    I did read a lot of news reports forwarded to the DNC by news outlets with the Sanders camp making accusations and putting the DNC in an unfounded, defensive posture. The major allegations had to do with fundraising for the DNC and the state parties (Sanders refused to do so and called it money-laundering), Nevada convention (cripes, those delegates were totally out of line), and unfair Sanders representation at Philadelphia convention. Each time, the Sanders team chose to use the press as its bully pulpit instead of "negotiating in good faith" (Wasserman-Schultz Schiltz) and left the DNC no choice but to defend its practices and rules that have been in place since the Kerry nominee days.

    As usual, much to do about nothing. Lying Trump says she "attacks Sanders heritage," multiple talking heads calling it a conspiracy to elect Clinton, now it's the Russians. Quit watching and reading the news, people. If you have five hours to read your Twitter feed, you have five hours to read WikiLeaks. I did it, and found nothing to be alarmed by.

    Here is one email exchange to start:

    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508

    Re: No shit

    From:DaceyA@dnc.org
    To: MARSHALL@dnc.org, MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org
    Date: 2016-05-05 12:23
    Subject: Re: No shit


    AMEN
    Amy K. Dacey | Chief Executive Officer

    Democratic National Committee

    430 S. Capitol Street, SE Washington, D.C. 20003
    202-528-7492 (c) | 202-314-2263 (o)
    DaceyA@dnc.org


    On 5/5/16, 1:33 AM, "Brad Marshall" wrote:

    >It's these Jesus thing.
    >
    >> On May 5, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Brad Marshall wrote:
    >>
    >> It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to
    >>ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he
    >>has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could
    >>make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps
    >>would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.


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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Degeneratefk said:

    Asterisk on the Street said:

    what dreams said:

    Well, I've searched high and low for the smoking gun. Nada. One e-mail where DWS calls Jeff Weaver "a damn liar" and "scummy" for weaving his spin about what happened in Nevada. After five hours and every search term imaginable, I found not one single mention of Sanders's religion. I saw one hashtag #ImWithHer at the top of a Clinton statement condemning the deportation of refugee children back to war torn countries. I didn't find any emails suggesting the DNC needs to fix the election in Clinton's favor.

    I did read a lot of news reports forwarded to the DNC by news outlets with the Sanders camp making accusations and putting the DNC in an unfounded, defensive posture. The major allegations had to do with fundraising for the DNC and the state parties (Sanders refused to do so and called it money-laundering), Nevada convention (cripes, those delegates were totally out of line), and unfair Sanders representation at Philadelphia convention. Each time, the Sanders team chose to use the press as its bully pulpit instead of "negotiating in good faith" (Wasserman-Schultz Schiltz) and left the DNC no choice but to defend its practices and rules that have been in place since the Kerry nominee days.

    As usual, much to do about nothing. Lying Trump says she "attacks Sanders heritage," multiple talking heads calling it a conspiracy to elect Clinton, now it's the Russians. Quit watching and reading the news, people. If you have five hours to read your Twitter feed, you have five hours to read WikiLeaks. I did it, and found nothing to be alarmed by.

    Here is one email exchange to start:

    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508

    Re: No shit

    From:DaceyA@dnc.org
    To: MARSHALL@dnc.org, MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org
    Date: 2016-05-05 12:23
    Subject: Re: No shit


    AMEN
    Amy K. Dacey | Chief Executive Officer

    Democratic National Committee

    430 S. Capitol Street, SE Washington, D.C. 20003
    202-528-7492 (c) | 202-314-2263 (o)
    DaceyA@dnc.org


    On 5/5/16, 1:33 AM, "Brad Marshall" wrote:

    >It's these Jesus thing.
    >
    >> On May 5, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Brad Marshall wrote:
    >>
    >> It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to
    >>ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he
    >>has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could
    >>make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps
    >>would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.


    Is there a point to this?
    This is the DNC, who is supposed to be neutral, trying to tilt primary elections in Hillary's favour. Worse then that it is using Bernie's religious beliefs or choice not to believe as the basis of it's attack.
  • Asterisk on the Street
    Asterisk on the Street Posts: 850
    Degeneratefk said:

    Asterisk on the Street said:

    what dreams said:

    Well, I've searched high and low for the smoking gun. Nada. One e-mail where DWS calls Jeff Weaver "a damn liar" and "scummy" for weaving his spin about what happened in Nevada. After five hours and every search term imaginable, I found not one single mention of Sanders's religion. I saw one hashtag #ImWithHer at the top of a Clinton statement condemning the deportation of refugee children back to war torn countries. I didn't find any emails suggesting the DNC needs to fix the election in Clinton's favor.

    I did read a lot of news reports forwarded to the DNC by news outlets with the Sanders camp making accusations and putting the DNC in an unfounded, defensive posture. The major allegations had to do with fundraising for the DNC and the state parties (Sanders refused to do so and called it money-laundering), Nevada convention (cripes, those delegates were totally out of line), and unfair Sanders representation at Philadelphia convention. Each time, the Sanders team chose to use the press as its bully pulpit instead of "negotiating in good faith" (Wasserman-Schultz Schiltz) and left the DNC no choice but to defend its practices and rules that have been in place since the Kerry nominee days.

    As usual, much to do about nothing. Lying Trump says she "attacks Sanders heritage," multiple talking heads calling it a conspiracy to elect Clinton, now it's the Russians. Quit watching and reading the news, people. If you have five hours to read your Twitter feed, you have five hours to read WikiLeaks. I did it, and found nothing to be alarmed by.

    Here is one email exchange to start:

    https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508

    Re: No shit

    From:DaceyA@dnc.org
    To: MARSHALL@dnc.org, MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org
    Date: 2016-05-05 12:23
    Subject: Re: No shit


    AMEN
    Amy K. Dacey | Chief Executive Officer

    Democratic National Committee

    430 S. Capitol Street, SE Washington, D.C. 20003
    202-528-7492 (c) | 202-314-2263 (o)
    DaceyA@dnc.org


    On 5/5/16, 1:33 AM, "Brad Marshall" wrote:

    >It's these Jesus thing.
    >
    >> On May 5, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Brad Marshall wrote:
    >>
    >> It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to
    >>ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he
    >>has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could
    >>make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps
    >>would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.


    Is there a point to this?
    Yes, it is a link to the email What Dreams was looking for.

    Brad Marshall, CFO for the DNC, is trying to "get someone to ask his belief," referring to Bernie Sanders's religion in hopes of the answer making "several points difference" to his peeps. That is not impartial behavior for a DNC officer.
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    edited July 2016
    I found the email with the director of finance calling Sanders obnoxious. EDIT: It was part of a chain where someone was calling in a favor to get his 6 year old on the convention floor (must be a 10C member -- hahaha). It was right after Sanders's Nebraska win, and this Baker guy says it got Sanders nothing, that he still doesn't control the convention floor, even though he may be more obnoxious. Bad paraphrase, but gets at the gist. I can't copy and paste on my phone yet. Just search for "obnoxious" and it's there. END EDIT.

    Hmmph. Wonder why when I searched for religion or atheist, I couldn't find it. Thanks though. I'm going to look back at the whole "no shit" chain. That's an odd subject line for an email.
    Post edited by what dreams on

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