DNC Philadelphia 2016

rgambs

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

With all the talk of the Republican party nominating an authoritarian in waiting it is amazing which party actually behaved with a more authoritarian bent throughout the primaries.

Oh come on, you are not actually saying that political maneuvers within a party are comparable to "they are rapists, build a wall, nuke Europe, start trade war with China, ban and register a religion" rhetoric, are you? That's ridiculous.

Up until this point one party has behaved with an authoritarian bent while another party hasn't. If a campaign is really supposed to reflect how one might govern then the concerns of authoritarianism are clearly being pointed in the wrong direction. #demexit is trending for a reason.

You don't see an authoritarian bent in Trump's rhetoric?

InHiding80

BS44325 said:

Booooooorrrrrrrriiiiiiing.

Yes, your posts are boring.

InHiding80

CH156378 said:

First time I ever had spinach on pizza was in Philly. True story.

Not as bad as broccoli. Anger from Inside Out would agree.

I love artichoke as a topping, though.

rgambs

The DNC's behavior is reprehensible and clearly conspiratorial, but authoritarian seems quite a stretch.

benjs

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

With all the talk of the Republican party nominating an authoritarian in waiting it is amazing which party actually behaved with a more authoritarian bent throughout the primaries.

Oh come on, you are not actually saying that political maneuvers within a party are comparable to "they are rapists, build a wall, nuke Europe, start trade war with China, ban and register a religion" rhetoric, are you? That's ridiculous.

BS can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was comparing exaggerated rhetoric from the Republican party with the political maneuvering of the Democrat party at all. Rather, for all the Democratic rhetoric criticizing Trump and alluding to the fact that he would run the country like an authoritarian regime, it's fairly hypocritical given the way the Democratic party have attempted to stack cards in ways that benefit the continuity of the lucrative status quo they've formed over the years (i.e. the ideals that Clinton represents over the ideals that Sanders represents) which if not classified as authoritarian - are certainly deceptively and sneakily manipulative tactics. And if that's what BS is saying - I don't disagree in the slightest.

This is just my opinion, but from my perspective, both parties have acted in pretty infantile ways this election.

InHiding80

Free said:

All Debbie Wasserman Schultz appearances scrapped from DNC

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/politics/dnc-wikileaks-emails/index.html

Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz will not speak at or preside over the party's convention this week, a decision reached by party officials Saturday after emails surfaced that raised questions about the committee's impartiality during the Democratic primary...

Bye Felicia.

Cliffy6745

BS44325 said:

The protests have begun

https://youtu.be/k28KgDukHPY

They lost that vote

brianlux

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

With all the talk of the Republican party nominating an authoritarian in waiting it is amazing which party actually behaved with a more authoritarian bent throughout the primaries.

Oh come on, you are not actually saying that political maneuvers within a party are comparable to "they are rapists, build a wall, nuke Europe, start trade war with China, ban and register a religion" rhetoric, are you? That's ridiculous.

Up until this point one party has behaved with an authoritarian bent while another party hasn't. If a campaign is really supposed to reflect how one might govern then the concerns of authoritarianism are clearly being pointed in the wrong direction. #demexit is trending for a reason.

You don't see an authoritarian bent in Trump's rhetoric?

I wouldn't go so far as to say their is zero authoritarian flavor to the Dem's platform but the Republican/Trump rhetoric goes beyond that to something worse than awful.

BS44325

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

With all the talk of the Republican party nominating an authoritarian in waiting it is amazing which party actually behaved with a more authoritarian bent throughout the primaries.

Oh come on, you are not actually saying that political maneuvers within a party are comparable to "they are rapists, build a wall, nuke Europe, start trade war with China, ban and register a religion" rhetoric, are you? That's ridiculous.

Up until this point one party has behaved with an authoritarian bent while another party hasn't. If a campaign is really supposed to reflect how one might govern then the concerns of authoritarianism are clearly being pointed in the wrong direction. #demexit is trending for a reason.

You don't see an authoritarian bent in Trump's rhetoric?

Like Obama I see a man who sees no problem with governing through executive order. This concerns me. The Obama administration and his supporters normalized this type of governance by eroding the concept of checks and balances under the guise of "obstructionism". My thoughts however is that Clinton would be far more likely to abuse this system compared to Trump. Clinton's behaviour to date speaks far louder then any of Trump's "rhetoric".

BS44325

benjs said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

With all the talk of the Republican party nominating an authoritarian in waiting it is amazing which party actually behaved with a more authoritarian bent throughout the primaries.

Oh come on, you are not actually saying that political maneuvers within a party are comparable to "they are rapists, build a wall, nuke Europe, start trade war with China, ban and register a religion" rhetoric, are you? That's ridiculous.

BS can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was comparing exaggerated rhetoric from the Republican party with the political maneuvering of the Democrat party at all. Rather, for all the Democratic rhetoric criticizing Trump and alluding to the fact that he would run the country like an authoritarian regime, it's fairly hypocritical given the way the Democratic party have attempted to stack cards in ways that benefit the continuity of the lucrative status quo they've formed over the years (i.e. the ideals that Clinton represents over the ideals that Sanders represents) which if not classified as authoritarian - are certainly deceptively and sneakily manipulative tactics. And if that's what BS is saying - I don't disagree in the slightest.

This is just my opinion, but from my perspective, both parties have acted in pretty infantile ways this election.

This exactly. Thank you.

rgambs

benjs said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

With all the talk of the Republican party nominating an authoritarian in waiting it is amazing which party actually behaved with a more authoritarian bent throughout the primaries.

Oh come on, you are not actually saying that political maneuvers within a party are comparable to "they are rapists, build a wall, nuke Europe, start trade war with China, ban and register a religion" rhetoric, are you? That's ridiculous.

BS can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was comparing exaggerated rhetoric from the Republican party with the political maneuvering of the Democrat party at all. Rather, for all the Democratic rhetoric criticizing Trump and alluding to the fact that he would run the country like an authoritarian regime, it's fairly hypocritical given the way the Democratic party have attempted to stack cards in ways that benefit the continuity of the lucrative status quo they've formed over the years (i.e. the ideals that Clinton represents over the ideals that Sanders represents) which if not classified as authoritarian - are certainly deceptively and sneakily manipulative tactics. And if that's what BS is saying - I don't disagree in the slightest.

This is just my opinion, but from my perspective, both parties have acted in pretty infantile ways this election.

Certainly sneaky and manipulative, conspiratorial and shady...
Even if it is authoritarian, the GOP had all the same happening, the party bucked and rolled and jigged behind the scenes and in the open to try to stop Trump, so to say the DNC was more authoritarian is inaccurate at the least.

BS44325

rgambs said:

benjs said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

With all the talk of the Republican party nominating an authoritarian in waiting it is amazing which party actually behaved with a more authoritarian bent throughout the primaries.

Oh come on, you are not actually saying that political maneuvers within a party are comparable to "they are rapists, build a wall, nuke Europe, start trade war with China, ban and register a religion" rhetoric, are you? That's ridiculous.

BS can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was comparing exaggerated rhetoric from the Republican party with the political maneuvering of the Democrat party at all. Rather, for all the Democratic rhetoric criticizing Trump and alluding to the fact that he would run the country like an authoritarian regime, it's fairly hypocritical given the way the Democratic party have attempted to stack cards in ways that benefit the continuity of the lucrative status quo they've formed over the years (i.e. the ideals that Clinton represents over the ideals that Sanders represents) which if not classified as authoritarian - are certainly deceptively and sneakily manipulative tactics. And if that's what BS is saying - I don't disagree in the slightest.

This is just my opinion, but from my perspective, both parties have acted in pretty infantile ways this election.

Certainly sneaky and manipulative, conspiratorial and shady...
Even if it is authoritarian, the GOP had all the same happening, the party bucked and rolled and jigged behind the scenes and in the open to try to stop Trump, so to say the DNC was more authoritarian is inaccurate at the least.

It's not the same. The RNC was messy as hell but it gave all factions an opportunity to express themselves. Every candidate was given a chance to speak and appear if they wanted to. That is democracy and while not everybody left happy nobody can really argue that the Republican primary contest was "rigged".

CH156378

InHiding80 said:

CH156378 said:

First time I ever had spinach on pizza was in Philly. True story.

Not as bad as broccoli. Anger from Inside Out would agree.

I love artichoke as a topping, though.

I like artichoke as a topping with maybe some bacon, olive oil or Alfredo for the sauce. I don't like broccoli on traditional baked pizza though. My wife makes this cold veggie pizza thing with cream cheese in place of sauce. She puts broccoli cauliflower peppers and all sorts of other veggies on it. Amazing.

rgambs

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

benjs said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

With all the talk of the Republican party nominating an authoritarian in waiting it is amazing which party actually behaved with a more authoritarian bent throughout the primaries.

Oh come on, you are not actually saying that political maneuvers within a party are comparable to "they are rapists, build a wall, nuke Europe, start trade war with China, ban and register a religion" rhetoric, are you? That's ridiculous.

BS can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was comparing exaggerated rhetoric from the Republican party with the political maneuvering of the Democrat party at all. Rather, for all the Democratic rhetoric criticizing Trump and alluding to the fact that he would run the country like an authoritarian regime, it's fairly hypocritical given the way the Democratic party have attempted to stack cards in ways that benefit the continuity of the lucrative status quo they've formed over the years (i.e. the ideals that Clinton represents over the ideals that Sanders represents) which if not classified as authoritarian - are certainly deceptively and sneakily manipulative tactics. And if that's what BS is saying - I don't disagree in the slightest.

This is just my opinion, but from my perspective, both parties have acted in pretty infantile ways this election.

Certainly sneaky and manipulative, conspiratorial and shady...
Even if it is authoritarian, the GOP had all the same happening, the party bucked and rolled and jigged behind the scenes and in the open to try to stop Trump, so to say the DNC was more authoritarian is inaccurate at the least.

It's not the same. The RNC was messy as hell but it gave all factions an opportunity to express themselves. Every candidate was given a chance to speak and appear if they wanted to. That is democracy and while not everybody left happy nobody can really argue that the Republican primary contest was "rigged".

And Sanders didn't get his chance? Of course he did, and his delegates were counted. The only reason the den contest was more rigged is because they were more successful than the gops failed attempts to stage their coup.

hedonist

benjs said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

With all the talk of the Republican party nominating an authoritarian in waiting it is amazing which party actually behaved with a more authoritarian bent throughout the primaries.

Oh come on, you are not actually saying that political maneuvers within a party are comparable to "they are rapists, build a wall, nuke Europe, start trade war with China, ban and register a religion" rhetoric, are you? That's ridiculous.

BS can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was comparing exaggerated rhetoric from the Republican party with the political maneuvering of the Democrat party at all. Rather, for all the Democratic rhetoric criticizing Trump and alluding to the fact that he would run the country like an authoritarian regime, it's fairly hypocritical given the way the Democratic party have attempted to stack cards in ways that benefit the continuity of the lucrative status quo they've formed over the years (i.e. the ideals that Clinton represents over the ideals that Sanders represents) which if not classified as authoritarian - are certainly deceptively and sneakily manipulative tactics. And if that's what BS is saying - I don't disagree in the slightest.

This is just my opinion, but from my perspective, both parties have acted in pretty infantile ways this election.

Agreed, though I wouldn't limit it to just this election.

what dreams

Just curious. Has anybody read the 20,000 emails? I know you all have read reports of the emails. But have you sat down and actually studied the original 20,000 emails so you can quote them here in your own original analysis of the situation, as opposed to what some partisan blog has told you to believe? All any of you can say is "think for yourself, you puppets!"and yet I see no evidence at all that any of you making such pleas actually do so yourself. You think if you post a video here, or a wiki blog there, that you somehow have proven you know more than anyone else. But I see nobody quoting the actual primary source under question. None of you have proven anything except that you enjoy perpetuating the shit show.

Cliffy6745

Some pretty good protesting from the Bernie folks going down at City Hall as we speak.

brianlux

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

With all the talk of the Republican party nominating an authoritarian in waiting it is amazing which party actually behaved with a more authoritarian bent throughout the primaries.

Oh come on, you are not actually saying that political maneuvers within a party are comparable to "they are rapists, build a wall, nuke Europe, start trade war with China, ban and register a religion" rhetoric, are you? That's ridiculous.

Up until this point one party has behaved with an authoritarian bent while another party hasn't. If a campaign is really supposed to reflect how one might govern then the concerns of authoritarianism are clearly being pointed in the wrong direction. #demexit is trending for a reason.

You don't see an authoritarian bent in Trump's rhetoric?

Like Obama I see a man who sees no problem with governing through executive order. This concerns me. The Obama administration and his supporters normalized this type of governance by eroding the concept of checks and balances under the guise of "obstructionism". My thoughts however is that Clinton would be far more likely to abuse this system compared to Trump. Clinton's behaviour to date speaks far louder then any of Trump's "rhetoric".

Really. That Trump would abuse the system less is hard to imagine. He would throw the whole works out and run things off the hip. But moot point. He won't get there. He doesn't want the job.

Free

benjs said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

With all the talk of the Republican party nominating an authoritarian in waiting it is amazing which party actually behaved with a more authoritarian bent throughout the primaries.

Oh come on, you are not actually saying that political maneuvers within a party are comparable to "they are rapists, build a wall, nuke Europe, start trade war with China, ban and register a religion" rhetoric, are you? That's ridiculous.

BS can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he was comparing exaggerated rhetoric from the Republican party with the political maneuvering of the Democrat party at all. Rather, for all the Democratic rhetoric criticizing Trump and alluding to the fact that he would run the country like an authoritarian regime, it's fairly hypocritical given the way the Democratic party have attempted to stack cards in ways that benefit the continuity of the lucrative status quo they've formed over the years (i.e. the ideals that Clinton represents over the ideals that Sanders represents) which if not classified as authoritarian - are certainly deceptively and sneakily manipulative tactics. And if that's what BS is saying - I don't disagree in the slightest.

This is just my opinion, but from my perspective, both parties have acted in pretty infantile ways this election.

This is by far, the most embarrassing election I've lived to see, for sure. This is what the U.S. has come to.

On the other hand, having a candidate in the race representing a true progressive agenda for the people of this country, and the millions in support of him and his message, makes me still hopeful for the future.

I hope this disaster destroys the 2 party system for what it is. I really do.

Degeneratefk

what dreams said:

Just curious. Has anybody read the 20,000 emails? I know you all have read reports of the emails. But have you sat down and actually studied the original 20,000 emails so you can quote them here in your own original analysis of the situation, as opposed to what some partisan blog has told you to believe? All any of you can say is "think for yourself, you puppets!"and yet I see no evidence at all that any of you making such pleas actually do so yourself. You think if you post a video here, or a wiki blog there, that you somehow have proven you know more than anyone else. But I see nobody quoting the actual primary source under question. None of you have proven anything except that you enjoy perpetuating the shit show.

I don't have to read 20,000 emails to be able to think for myself. I will take the word of the FBI director when he said that of the 20,000 about 100 of them may have contained some classified information.