I just read this article this morning about the Russian female swimmer - I saw the race last night with the American taunting her. It's an interesting article because it talks about both sides - the American being a little classless, but the Russian being a total doper. Read through to the end about how she'd been banned and wasn't even supposed to be at the Olympics and then she "showed up" on Saturday, 90 minutes before the race.
I just read this article this morning about the Russian female swimmer - I saw the race last night with the American taunting her. It's an interesting article because it talks about both sides - the American being a little classless, but the Russian being a total doper. Read through to the end about how she'd been banned and wasn't even supposed to be at the Olympics and then she "showed up" on Saturday, 90 minutes before the race.
I just read this article this morning about the Russian female swimmer - I saw the race last night with the American taunting her. It's an interesting article because it talks about both sides - the American being a little classless, but the Russian being a total doper. Read through to the end about how she'd been banned and wasn't even supposed to be at the Olympics and then she "showed up" on Saturday, 90 minutes before the race.
anyone refused to pass a test,,should be banned..end of story.. if was a russian athlete,would be ban..thats all
2004 athens,they couldnbt find 2 greek athletes for test,.they didnt refuse..thney couldnt find them and they ban them!! they went the next day but it was late!!!
alot of u dont havwe a clue what politics agenda comes with kosovo,the war and whats goin oin atg balkans..
its all politics..nothing to dom withy dopping or shit..
u refuse test??ban..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
anyone refused to pass a test,,should be banned..end of story.. if was a russian athlete,would be ban..thats all
2004 athens,they couldnbt find 2 greek athletes for test,.they didnt refuse..thney couldnt find them and they ban them!! they went the next day but it was late!!!
alot of u dont havwe a clue what politics agenda comes with kosovo,the war and whats goin oin atg balkans..
its all politics..nothing to dom withy dopping or shit..
u refuse test??ban..
Did you read the article I posted about it? It does explain it. She was advised not to because of those particular circumstances, and has done tests since. I'm not saying it's impossible that she and others refused in France because they were worried about testing positive, but that is a real blind assumption without some evidence and without any support from any official organization besides the one that is being accused of inappropriate methods. I think you ran with this one too quickly Dimitris.
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Yeah, this particular story is a non-issue. Although just because someone allows themselves to be tested at the Olympics it doesn't mean they don't dope. It just means that they know how not to test positive during a particular period of time.
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how lame..after the kick out russians... a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1 and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1 fuck that shit
Your information is innacurate I'm afraid and the situations were in no way comparable.
Also it's very presumptuous and somewhat insulting for you to say that a lot of us don't have a clue about the political situation in Europe
agreed ... i don't think this athlete has ever tested positive, just refused this one test on advice she received and the judo federation back her up ... that also doesn't mean an athlete is not cheating, just not caught ... i'll give her the benefit of the doubt in this case.
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agreed ... i don't think this athlete has ever tested positive, just refused this one test on advice she received and the judo federation back her up ... that also doesn't mean an athlete is not cheating, just not caught ... i'll give her the benefit of the doubt in this case.
Me too.
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Here's an intersting breakdown of Olympic costs and revenues over the decades...just take a look at the cost of the Olympics in LA 1984 I wonder why it was so cheap.....
This says 10% goes to the IOC, while the remaining is divided among the National OC and other related organizations.
The benefit to the host nation is through tourism and being in the national spotlight. Some nations seem to do this well (China, Canada) while others are less successful.
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Neither of those links seems to work. They seem to have been abbreviated (with the ....). Can you repost? I am interested in seeing what the breakdown is!
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Neither of those links seems to work. They seem to have been abbreviated (with the ....). Can you repost? I am interested in seeing what the breakdown is!
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Neither of those links seems to work. They seem to have been abbreviated (with the ....). Can you repost? I am interested in seeing what the breakdown is!
Btw, each night while I'm watching, there is one common thought: where the fuck is everybody?? There are so many empty seats! Even at events that should be packed. Officials in Rio claimed that 80% of the tickets were sold by the first day of the games. I call bullshit. There is no way 80% were sold. Not unless people who bought them just aren't showing up. Even at events where Brazil is playing they aren't full. Just skipped through ANOTHER beach volleyball match, Canada vs Brazil, and I'd guess that 25% or the seats are empty. Despite all issues, I am still a bit surprised by the turnout. And it's pretty much across the board. Few exceptions. Apparentley ticket sales aren't a big revenue stream anyway, but still, it's kind of a downer to see the venues half empty.
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The diving pool has mysteriously turned really green (happened overnight). Various theories as to why. Probably fine (officials say it's safe). It's just weird.
Btw, each night while I'm watching, there is one common thought: where the fuck is everybody?? There are so many empty seats! Even at events that should be packed. Officials in Rio claimed that 80% of the tickets were sold by the first day of the games. I call bullshit. There is no way 80% were sold. Not unless people who bought them just aren't showing up. Even at events where Brazil is playing they aren't full. Just skipped through ANOTHER beach volleyball match, Canada vs Brazil, and I'd guess that 25% or the seats are empty. Despite all issues, I am still a bit surprised by the turnout. And it's pretty much across the board. Few exceptions. Apparentley ticket sales aren't a big revenue stream anyway, but still, it's kind of a downer to see the venues half empty.
PJS.....that's exactly the reason I started looking this stuff up as to where the money goes from ticket sales. I watched water polo or any other event and seeing many seats unoccupied was so dissappointing. I wanted to see them filled because I thought most of the money went to the Brazillian government monies they seem to desparately need. For some Olympics cities do well others not so well.....in Rio's case the constant bad news may have turned tourists and fans away. Also over on the RUSH board a Rio resident has bought tickets to various events and says the prices are not expensive at all and are readily available. He's taking his 3 year old daughter to as many as possible.
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The diving pool has mysteriously turned really green (happened overnight). Various theories as to why. Probably fine (officials say it's safe). It's just weird.
Before reading when I saw the image I thought something was wrong with the computer screen or some lighting effect. Hey so far I must say the Rio Olympics has gone off better than I expected and my favorite event track and field has not started as yet.
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*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
agreed ... i don't think this athlete has ever tested positive, just refused this one test on advice she received and the judo federation back her up ... that also doesn't mean an athlete is not cheating, just not caught ... i'll give her the benefit of the doubt in this case.
same was so many russian athletes!!they didnt find them dirty..!!!
there are double standards here,,thery treat different russinaq athletes
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
how lame..after the kick out russians... a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1 and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1 fuck that shit
Your information is innacurate I'm afraid and the situations were in no way comparable.
Also it's very presumptuous and somewhat insulting for you to say that a lot of us don't have a clue about the political situation in Europe
ive been to kosovo war at peace force from greece..i have a way more clue whats going on in balkans,no need to mention i live in the area..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
how lame..after the kick out russians... a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1 and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1 fuck that shit
Your information is innacurate I'm afraid and the situations were in no way comparable.
Also it's very presumptuous and somewhat insulting for you to say that a lot of us don't have a clue about the political situation in Europe
ive been to kosovo war at peace force from greece..i have a way more clue whats going on in balkans,no need to mention i live in the area..
Saying you yourself know what's going on there is not the same as saying the rest of us are ignorant, which is what you implied. Anyway, you clearly have your position, with which I disagree, there is no point discussing it further
how lame..after the kick out russians... a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1 and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1 fuck that shit
Your information is innacurate I'm afraid and the situations were in no way comparable.
Also it's very presumptuous and somewhat insulting for you to say that a lot of us don't have a clue about the political situation in Europe
ive been to kosovo war at peace force from greece..i have a way more clue whats going on in balkans,no need to mention i live in the area..
Saying you yourself know what's going on there is not the same as saying the rest of us are ignorant, which is what you implied. Anyway, you clearly have your position, with which I disagree, there is no point discussing it further
i didnt use any of the words u assume,or use about what i said. what is a fact is that people live an area,or visit an area..or have personal experience,knows away more than people read the internet
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
how lame..after the kick out russians... a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1 and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1 fuck that shit
Your information is innacurate I'm afraid and the situations were in no way comparable.
Also it's very presumptuous and somewhat insulting for you to say that a lot of us don't have a clue about the political situation in Europe
ive been to kosovo war at peace force from greece..i have a way more clue whats going on in balkans,no need to mention i live in the area..
Saying you yourself know what's going on there is not the same as saying the rest of us are ignorant, which is what you implied. Anyway, you clearly have your position, with which I disagree, there is no point discussing it further
i didnt use any of the words u assume,or use about what i said. what is a fact is that people live an area,or visit an area..or have personal experience,knows away more than people read the internet
That isnt always true. I live 20 minutes from Fort Sumter, that doesn't make me any more of an expert on the civil war than someone in Oregon.
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will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
how lame..after the kick out russians... a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1 and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1 fuck that shit
Your information is innacurate I'm afraid and the situations were in no way comparable.
Also it's very presumptuous and somewhat insulting for you to say that a lot of us don't have a clue about the political situation in Europe
ive been to kosovo war at peace force from greece..i have a way more clue whats going on in balkans,no need to mention i live in the area..
Saying you yourself know what's going on there is not the same as saying the rest of us are ignorant, which is what you implied. Anyway, you clearly have your position, with which I disagree, there is no point discussing it further
i didnt use any of the words u assume,or use about what i said. what is a fact is that people live an area,or visit an area..or have personal experience,knows away more than people read the internet
That isnt always true. I live 20 minutes from Fort Sumter, that doesn't make me any more of an expert on the civil war than someone in Oregon.
yeah right!!!!well you didn't do your homework did ya!!!!
agreed ... i don't think this athlete has ever tested positive, just refused this one test on advice she received and the judo federation back her up ... that also doesn't mean an athlete is not cheating, just not caught ... i'll give her the benefit of the doubt in this case.
same was so many russian athletes!!they didnt find them dirty..!!!
there are double standards here,,thery treat different russinaq athletes
These are two completely separate issues. I see absolutely no relation between the Russian thing and this thing with the athlete from Kosovo. I don't think one's familiarity with Kosovo is the least bit relevant here. What's relevant is the position of the French and the International Judo Association and dope testing protocol, as well as the doping initiatives in the Russian Olympic Athletics program. I assume that probably none of us are super familiar with any of those things, and can all equally rely on the facts available and our own reasoning skills. Anyway, besides being mad about this, hope you're well Dimitris!
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if was a russian athlete,would be ban..thats all
2004 athens,they couldnbt find 2 greek athletes for test,.they didnt refuse..thney couldnt find them and they ban them!!
they went the next day but it was late!!!
alot of u dont havwe a clue what politics agenda comes with kosovo,the war and whats goin oin atg balkans..
its all politics..nothing to dom withy dopping or shit..
u refuse test??ban..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Also it's very presumptuous and somewhat insulting for you to say that a lot of us don't have a clue about the political situation in Europe
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
http://kfor.com/2016/08/04/from-broadcasting-to-tickets-how-the-olympics-make-money-in-10-charts/
And here is a breakdown from the Olympics official site... https://www.olympic.org/ioc-financing-revenue-sources-distribution
This says 10% goes to the IOC, while the remaining is divided among the National OC and other related organizations.
The benefit to the host nation is through tourism and being in the national spotlight. Some nations seem to do this well (China, Canada) while others are less successful.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
http://kfor.com/2016/08/04/from-broadcasting-to-tickets-how-the-olympics-make-money-in-10-charts/
And here is a breakdown from the Olympics official site...
https://www.olympic.org/ioc-financing-revenue-sources-distribution
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
.... WTF Sochi???? I wonder how much of that money went straight into the pockets of Putin and his cronies?
(oh, and way to go Vancouver, except for the fucking ticket prices. Jesus.)
Apparentley ticket sales aren't a big revenue stream anyway, but still, it's kind of a downer to see the venues half empty.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Once again the U.S. of A. makes an example of all you dopers and candy asses! Know your role and shut your mouth!
(sincerely, Tim Duncan)
http://www.vox.com/2016/8/9/12417804/rio-olympics-2016-pool-green
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
there are double standards here,,thery treat different russinaq athletes
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
what is a fact is that people live an area,or visit an area..or have personal experience,knows away more than people read the internet
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
we will find a way, we will find our place
Anyway, besides being mad about this, hope you're well Dimitris!
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon