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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,656
    lukin2006 said:

    agreed ... i don't think this athlete has ever tested positive, just refused this one test on advice she received and the judo federation back her up ... that also doesn't mean an athlete is not cheating, just not caught ... i'll give her the benefit of the doubt in this case.

    Me too.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,230
    edited August 2016
    Here's an intersting breakdown of Olympic costs and revenues over the decades...just take a look at the cost of the Olympics in LA 1984 I wonder why it was so cheap.....

    http://kfor.com/2016/08/04/from-broadcasting-to-tickets-how-the-olympics-make-money-in-10-charts/

    And here is a breakdown from the Olympics official site... https://www.olympic.org/ioc-financing-revenue-sources-distribution


    This says 10% goes to the IOC, while the remaining is divided among the National OC and other related organizations.


    The benefit to the host nation is through tourism and being in the national spotlight. Some nations seem to do this well (China, Canada) while others are less successful.

    Peace
    Post edited by g under p on
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,656
    Neither of those links seems to work. They seem to have been abbreviated (with the ....). Can you repost? I am interested in seeing what the breakdown is! :)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,230
    edited August 2016
    PJ_Soul said:

    Neither of those links seems to work. They seem to have been abbreviated (with the ....). Can you repost? I am interested in seeing what the breakdown is! :)

    I hope this works....

    http://kfor.com/2016/08/04/from-broadcasting-to-tickets-how-the-olympics-make-money-in-10-charts/

    And here is a breakdown from the Olympics official site...

    https://www.olympic.org/ioc-financing-revenue-sources-distribution

    Peace


    Post edited by g under p on
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,656
    edited August 2016
    g under p said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Neither of those links seems to work. They seem to have been abbreviated (with the ....). Can you repost? I am interested in seeing what the breakdown is! :)

    I hope this works....

    http://kfor.com/2016/08/04/from-broadcasting-to-tickets-how-the-olympics-make-money-in-10-charts/

    And here is a breakdown from the Olympics official site...

    https://www.olympic.org/ioc-financing-revenue-sources-distribution

    Peace


    Thanks!

    .... WTF Sochi???? I wonder how much of that money went straight into the pockets of Putin and his cronies?

    (oh, and way to go Vancouver, except for the fucking ticket prices. Jesus.)
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,656
    edited August 2016
    Btw, each night while I'm watching, there is one common thought: where the fuck is everybody?? There are so many empty seats! Even at events that should be packed. Officials in Rio claimed that 80% of the tickets were sold by the first day of the games. I call bullshit. There is no way 80% were sold. Not unless people who bought them just aren't showing up. Even at events where Brazil is playing they aren't full. Just skipped through ANOTHER beach volleyball match, Canada vs Brazil, and I'd guess that 25% or the seats are empty. Despite all issues, I am still a bit surprised by the turnout. And it's pretty much across the board. Few exceptions.
    Apparentley ticket sales aren't a big revenue stream anyway, but still, it's kind of a downer to see the venues half empty.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    edited August 2016
    Now I see why Montreal is still paying 40 years later ... 6 Billion in 76
    Post edited by lukin2006 on
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
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    Once again the U.S. of A. makes an example of all you dopers and candy asses! Know your role and shut your mouth!

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    Party On, Dudes!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,656
    edited August 2016
    The diving pool has mysteriously turned really green (happened overnight). Various theories as to why. Probably fine (officials say it's safe). It's just weird.

    http://www.vox.com/2016/8/9/12417804/rio-olympics-2016-pool-green

    image
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,230
    PJ_Soul said:

    Btw, each night while I'm watching, there is one common thought: where the fuck is everybody?? There are so many empty seats! Even at events that should be packed. Officials in Rio claimed that 80% of the tickets were sold by the first day of the games. I call bullshit. There is no way 80% were sold. Not unless people who bought them just aren't showing up. Even at events where Brazil is playing they aren't full. Just skipped through ANOTHER beach volleyball match, Canada vs Brazil, and I'd guess that 25% or the seats are empty. Despite all issues, I am still a bit surprised by the turnout. And it's pretty much across the board. Few exceptions.
    Apparentley ticket sales aren't a big revenue stream anyway, but still, it's kind of a downer to see the venues half empty.

    PJS.....that's exactly the reason I started looking this stuff up as to where the money goes from ticket sales. I watched water polo or any other event and seeing many seats unoccupied was so dissappointing. I wanted to see them filled because I thought most of the money went to the Brazillian government monies they seem to desparately need. For some Olympics cities do well others not so well.....in Rio's case the constant bad news may have turned tourists and fans away. Also over on the RUSH board a Rio resident has bought tickets to various events and says the prices are not expensive at all and are readily available. He's taking his 3 year old daughter to as many as possible.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,230
    PJ_Soul said:

    The diving pool has mysteriously turned really green (happened overnight). Various theories as to why. Probably fine (officials say it's safe). It's just weird.

    http://www.vox.com/2016/8/9/12417804/rio-olympics-2016-pool-green

    image

    Before reading when I saw the image I thought something was wrong with the computer screen or some lighting effect. Hey so far I must say the Rio Olympics has gone off better than I expected and my favorite event track and field has not started as yet.

    Peace

    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    lukin2006 said:

    agreed ... i don't think this athlete has ever tested positive, just refused this one test on advice she received and the judo federation back her up ... that also doesn't mean an athlete is not cheating, just not caught ... i'll give her the benefit of the doubt in this case.

    same was so many russian athletes!!they didnt find them dirty..!!!

    there are double standards here,,thery treat different russinaq athletes
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724

    how lame..after the kick out russians...
    a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1
    and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1
    fuck that shit

    Your information is innacurate I'm afraid and the situations were in no way comparable.

    Also it's very presumptuous and somewhat insulting for you to say that a lot of us don't have a clue about the political situation in Europe
    ive been to kosovo war at peace force from greece..i have a way more clue whats going on in balkans,no need to mention i live in the area..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    edited August 2016

    how lame..after the kick out russians...
    a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1
    and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1
    fuck that shit

    Your information is innacurate I'm afraid and the situations were in no way comparable.

    Also it's very presumptuous and somewhat insulting for you to say that a lot of us don't have a clue about the political situation in Europe
    ive been to kosovo war at peace force from greece..i have a way more clue whats going on in balkans,no need to mention i live in the area..
    Saying you yourself know what's going on there is not the same as saying the rest of us are ignorant, which is what you implied. Anyway, you clearly have your position, with which I disagree, there is no point discussing it further
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724

    how lame..after the kick out russians...
    a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1
    and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1
    fuck that shit

    Your information is innacurate I'm afraid and the situations were in no way comparable.

    Also it's very presumptuous and somewhat insulting for you to say that a lot of us don't have a clue about the political situation in Europe
    ive been to kosovo war at peace force from greece..i have a way more clue whats going on in balkans,no need to mention i live in the area..
    Saying you yourself know what's going on there is not the same as saying the rest of us are ignorant, which is what you implied. Anyway, you clearly have your position, with which I disagree, there is no point discussing it further
    i didnt use any of the words u assume,or use about what i said.
    what is a fact is that people live an area,or visit an area..or have personal experience,knows away more than people read the internet
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    edited August 2016

    how lame..after the kick out russians...
    a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1
    and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1
    fuck that shit

    Your information is innacurate I'm afraid and the situations were in no way comparable.

    Also it's very presumptuous and somewhat insulting for you to say that a lot of us don't have a clue about the political situation in Europe
    ive been to kosovo war at peace force from greece..i have a way more clue whats going on in balkans,no need to mention i live in the area..
    Saying you yourself know what's going on there is not the same as saying the rest of us are ignorant, which is what you implied. Anyway, you clearly have your position, with which I disagree, there is no point discussing it further
    i didnt use any of the words u assume,or use about what i said.
    what is a fact is that people live an area,or visit an area..or have personal experience,knows away more than people read the internet
    That isnt always true. I live 20 minutes from Fort Sumter, that doesn't make me any more of an expert on the civil war than someone in Oregon.
    Post edited by Degeneratefk on
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  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893

    how lame..after the kick out russians...
    a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1
    and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1
    fuck that shit

    Your information is innacurate I'm afraid and the situations were in no way comparable.

    Also it's very presumptuous and somewhat insulting for you to say that a lot of us don't have a clue about the political situation in Europe
    ive been to kosovo war at peace force from greece..i have a way more clue whats going on in balkans,no need to mention i live in the area..
    Saying you yourself know what's going on there is not the same as saying the rest of us are ignorant, which is what you implied. Anyway, you clearly have your position, with which I disagree, there is no point discussing it further
    i didnt use any of the words u assume,or use about what i said.
    what is a fact is that people live an area,or visit an area..or have personal experience,knows away more than people read the internet
    That isnt always true. I live 20 minutes from Fort Sumter, that doesn't make me any more of an expert on the civil war than someone in Oregon.
    yeah right!!!!well you didn't do your homework did ya!!!!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,656
    edited August 2016

    lukin2006 said:

    agreed ... i don't think this athlete has ever tested positive, just refused this one test on advice she received and the judo federation back her up ... that also doesn't mean an athlete is not cheating, just not caught ... i'll give her the benefit of the doubt in this case.

    same was so many russian athletes!!they didnt find them dirty..!!!

    there are double standards here,,thery treat different russinaq athletes
    These are two completely separate issues. I see absolutely no relation between the Russian thing and this thing with the athlete from Kosovo. I don't think one's familiarity with Kosovo is the least bit relevant here. What's relevant is the position of the French and the International Judo Association and dope testing protocol, as well as the doping initiatives in the Russian Olympic Athletics program. I assume that probably none of us are super familiar with any of those things, and can all equally rely on the facts available and our own reasoning skills.
    Anyway, besides being mad about this, hope you're well Dimitris! ;)
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    The pool is probably algae ... We get algae blooms in the lake Erie every summer...if it is algae, this should be an embarrassment.
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