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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Judo: Kelmendi OK to refuse France drug test - IJF

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-rio-judo-kosovo-idUSKCN10K02F

    This must be the link to said athlete and appears to be a non issue with the Judo Federation and she was in her right to refuse. I will support any person who exercise's their rights ... she tested clean the following week. I have no idea how long it takes to get PED out of the system, the article make no mention of whether she has ever tested positive ... so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. No mention of the chinese?
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725

    how lame..after the kick out russians...
    a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1
    and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1
    fuck that shit

    I seriously can't tell what side you are on.
    with justiced and common sence
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    majlinda kelmendi from kosovo...
    won gold medal.at judo .
    she REFUSE to get tested and didnt geive sample..
    and they let her go and keep the golden medal..i rest my case
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123

    how lame..after the kick out russians...
    a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1
    and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1
    fuck that shit

    I seriously can't tell what side you are on.
    with justiced and common sence
    That helped.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Dimi ... she did nothing wrong, she refused a drug test in France before the olympics that she was not required to take ... if she refused an olympic drug test please provide link ...
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited August 2016

    majlinda kelmendi from kosovo...
    won gold medal.at judo .
    she REFUSE to get tested and didnt geive sample..
    and they let her go and keep the golden medal..i rest my case

    Okay Dimitris, I don't think you are quite accurately reporting this story. I just did a quick search, and it says she refused a drug test BEFORE the Olympics when the French anti-doping agency requested one two months ago (you made it seem like she refused after she won the medal and was asked to do the test by Olympic authorities). The French consequently suspended her in France, and that ban doesn't apply outside of France. And she wasn't the only one:

    "Kelmendi was not the only athlete to decline the test after questioning the authority of the testing officer and did so only after her coach consulted with the International Judo Federation’s anti-doping officer." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2016/08/08/rio-olympics-2016-kosovas-history-making-judoka-suspended-after/

    And the International Judo Federation has said that it's okay that she refused that test: http://au.eurosport.com/judo/rio/2016/olympics-rio-2016-majlinda-kelmendi-ok-to-refuse-drug-test-says-international-judo-federation_sto5714817/story.shtml
    "Coaches from several countries were surprised by the procedures of this control and asked for advice from the IJF anti-doping specialist," the federation said.

    "She cautiously expressed that in view of the reported facts, they had no obligation to do the test in those conditions."

    "Olympics Rio 2016: Majlinda Kelmendi OK to refuse drug test says International Judo Federation
    By Reuters

    21 minutes ago

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    Judo's governing body said that athletes were not obliged to take unscheduled drug tests when training in France in June and that those who refused, including Kosovo's gold medallist Majlinda Kelmendi, subsequently tested negative the next week.

    The unannounced doping tests were organised during the training camp in Saint-Cyprien for French athletes, the International Judo Federation said in a statement on Tuesday.

    The controller was surprised to also meet foreign athletes who had been training with the French and decided to test them by asking for their judo results in order to test the world's best athletes, the IJF said.

    "Coaches from several countries were surprised by the procedures of this control and asked for advice from the IJF anti-doping specialist," the federation said.

    "She cautiously expressed that in view of the reported facts, they had no obligation to do the test in those conditions."

    Amid doubts over the testing, some athletes underwent tests while others, like Kelmendi and Martyna Trajdos of Germany, did not.

    When informed about the case, IJF President Marius Vizer decided to test those who did not submit to the testing the following week, and the results were negative, the IJF said.

    The Guardian newspaper on Monday quoted Agron Kuka, head of the Kosovo Judo Federation, as saying that Kelmendi had refused the drug test but that she was clean.

    "The team was in the training camp in France and some person came and asked to do the doping control. But the person involved, she didn't have any authorisation from WADA or anyone. And that's the end of the story."

    The IJF confirmed to Reuters that Kelmendi had taken several drug tests this year, including in Rio on Sunday, the day she became the first athlete from Kosovo to win an Olympic medal."
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123

    majlinda kelmendi from kosovo...
    won gold medal.at judo .
    she REFUSE to get tested and didnt geive sample..
    and they let her go and keep the golden medal..i rest my case

    So?
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    Just want to highlight that I edited my last post to mention that she submitted to a drug test in Rio on Sunday. This is NOT a scandal or a problem at all. Seems almost like certain reporters just want to slander the woman.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    I just read this article this morning about the Russian female swimmer - I saw the race last night with the American taunting her. It's an interesting article because it talks about both sides - the American being a little classless, but the Russian being a total doper. Read through to the end about how she'd been banned and wasn't even supposed to be at the Olympics and then she "showed up" on Saturday, 90 minutes before the race.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/olympics/la-sp-oly-doping-plaschke-20160808-snap-story.html



  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJ_Soul said:

    Just want to highlight that I edited my last post to mention that she submitted to a drug test in Rio on Sunday. This is NOT a scandal or a problem at all. Seems almost like certain reporters just want to slander the woman.

    A non issue ... my approach to the olympics is take it for what its worth, its very political ... so I just watch for the enjoyment, if a winner gets caught cheating I don't get to bothered by it anymore, just like any sport. Take it for what its worth.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Enkidu said:

    I just read this article this morning about the Russian female swimmer - I saw the race last night with the American taunting her. It's an interesting article because it talks about both sides - the American being a little classless, but the Russian being a total doper. Read through to the end about how she'd been banned and wasn't even supposed to be at the Olympics and then she "showed up" on Saturday, 90 minutes before the race.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/olympics/la-sp-oly-doping-plaschke-20160808-snap-story.html



    Nothing classless in my eyes about King's reaction to allowing a cheater to swim. And King backed it up in the pool.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    jeffbr said:

    Enkidu said:

    I just read this article this morning about the Russian female swimmer - I saw the race last night with the American taunting her. It's an interesting article because it talks about both sides - the American being a little classless, but the Russian being a total doper. Read through to the end about how she'd been banned and wasn't even supposed to be at the Olympics and then she "showed up" on Saturday, 90 minutes before the race.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/olympics/la-sp-oly-doping-plaschke-20160808-snap-story.html



    Nothing classless in my eyes about King's reaction to allowing a cheater to swim. And King backed it up in the pool.
    agreed ... thats how you respond to a cheater...and rivalries make sport better
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    lukin2006 said:

    jeffbr said:

    Enkidu said:

    I just read this article this morning about the Russian female swimmer - I saw the race last night with the American taunting her. It's an interesting article because it talks about both sides - the American being a little classless, but the Russian being a total doper. Read through to the end about how she'd been banned and wasn't even supposed to be at the Olympics and then she "showed up" on Saturday, 90 minutes before the race.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/olympics/la-sp-oly-doping-plaschke-20160808-snap-story.html



    Nothing classless in my eyes about King's reaction to allowing a cheater to swim. And King backed it up in the pool.
    agreed ... thats how you respond to a cheater...and rivalries make sport better
    +1
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    And the Canadian women did it again, bronze synchro diving. Time for the men to step up ... I kid.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    anyone refused to pass a test,,should be banned..end of story..
    if was a russian athlete,would be ban..thats all

    2004 athens,they couldnbt find 2 greek athletes for test,.they didnt refuse..thney couldnt find them and they ban them!!
    they went the next day but it was late!!!

    alot of u dont havwe a clue what politics agenda comes with kosovo,the war and whats goin oin atg balkans..

    its all politics..nothing to dom withy dopping or shit..

    u refuse test??ban..


    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited August 2016

    anyone refused to pass a test,,should be banned..end of story..
    if was a russian athlete,would be ban..thats all

    2004 athens,they couldnbt find 2 greek athletes for test,.they didnt refuse..thney couldnt find them and they ban them!!
    they went the next day but it was late!!!

    alot of u dont havwe a clue what politics agenda comes with kosovo,the war and whats goin oin atg balkans..

    its all politics..nothing to dom withy dopping or shit..

    u refuse test??ban..


    Did you read the article I posted about it? It does explain it. She was advised not to because of those particular circumstances, and has done tests since. I'm not saying it's impossible that she and others refused in France because they were worried about testing positive, but that is a real blind assumption without some evidence and without any support from any official organization besides the one that is being accused of inappropriate methods. I think you ran with this one too quickly Dimitris.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Well its really non issue, she submitted a sample after winning gold in judo in the olympics...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    Yeah, this particular story is a non-issue. Although just because someone allows themselves to be tested at the Olympics it doesn't mean they don't dope. It just means that they know how not to test positive during a particular period of time.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    edited August 2016

    how lame..after the kick out russians...
    a woman from kosovo won a medal..and ask for get tested and she refuse to give sample..and its all ok!!no pro..inocent!!1
    and u telling me russia ban,wasnt for political reason.,.but kosovo,that need to be a country for political ,reasons at balkans..is all good!1
    fuck that shit

    Your information is innacurate I'm afraid and the situations were in no way comparable.

    Also it's very presumptuous and somewhat insulting for you to say that a lot of us don't have a clue about the political situation in Europe
    Post edited by jnimhaoileoin on
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    agreed ... i don't think this athlete has ever tested positive, just refused this one test on advice she received and the judo federation back her up ... that also doesn't mean an athlete is not cheating, just not caught ... i'll give her the benefit of the doubt in this case.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon