Olympics in Rio

rgambs

Americans bastardize the names of foreign places so much that the people from those places don't even recognize the names.
I keep hearing about Ree-O Day Janairo on the news lol
It's Hee-O Dja-nayo.
I experienced this one and Cal-Cut-Uh (actually Cal-cuttuh) when I was young, I learned a bit about foreign languages to spare myself more "typical American" embarassment lol

hedonist

Hi, gambo!

I'd never know there was a proper way of saying Rio's name. But we learn!

Kind of like Ibiza / Ibitha...Barcelona / Barthelona...Zaragoza / Tharagotha (last one's my favorite ). Again, we learn!

Given my heritage, I've always pronounced Iran "E-Rahn", but my husband usually says "I-Ran". It's OK by me, just a matter of dialect and exposure. No disrespect intended, of that I'm sure.

Bentleyspop

muskydan said:

Bentleyspop said:

muskydan said:

Jason P said:

Chicago is lucky Obama's bid failed for this Olympics.

King Obummer had nothing to do w/ Chicago's failed effort in getting that $ drain known as the Olympics. It was That crook Democrat Mayor Daley that wanted this to end his legacy and make his friends even more Rich with all the city contracts that would have been delt out in the city that works...pay to play baby, pay to play. Daley spent a couple 100 mil trying to get the Olympics so some of his cronies made some dough, but not the mother load thank God.

The facts nothing but the facts...

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20100517/NEWS02/200038265/chicago-2016s-final-tally-70-6m-spent-on-olympics-effort

May 17, 2010
Chicago 2016's final tally: $70.6M spent on Olympics effort

(Crain's) -- Chicago's unsuccessful bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics cost a total of $70.6 million, according to its final income tax return, released Monday.

Chicago 2016, the bid committee, had $6.8 million left over, which was donated to World Sport Chicago, a not-for-profit that promotes youth sports programs, as a legacy of the effort.

Down the 2009 home stretch of its three-year bid, Chicago 2016 spent $1.2 million on public relations with Hill & Knowlton and $1.2 million on its Web site online efforts with Ogilvy & Mather, according to bid documents.

Rounding out its top five contractors, were Freeman, paid $641,000 for event planning; DeMarsh Construction, paid $452,000 for construction consulting services, and RSA Films, paid $407,000 for film production.

Chicago also spent $736,025 to lobby European sports federations and International Olympic Committee members. It was the first city eliminated in the final voting on Oct. 2. The games went to Rio de Janeiro.

The Chicago bid committee spent about $3.8 million on payroll in 2009, including more than a half-million dollars in retention bonuses to top officers that were undisclosed in previous financial reports. The payments, intended to be equal to six months' salary, were awarded to senior executives to ensure they stayed through the bid process and were paid out after the bid concluded, according to the filing.

David Bolger, a former Aon Corp. executive who was chief operating officer of Chicago 2016, received a $200,000 retention bonus on top of his $283,713 salary, according to the filing. Mr. Bolger took a salary cut from his original $300,000 base salary as the economy worsened.

Doug Arnot, a longtime amateur sports executive who served as director of sport, received a $125,000 bonus in addition to his $248,013 salary. John Murray, a former McKinsey consultant who served as chief bid officer, received a $125,000 bonus on top of his $239,482 salary.

Valerie Waller, a marketing executive, received a $25,000 bonus on top of her $185,894 salary. Patricia Rios, who handled administration, received a $13,000 bonus in addition to her $126,613 salary.

Richard Ludwig, chief financial officer, received a $100,000 bonus on top of his $242,158 salary.

Aon founder Patrick Ryan, who was chairman and CEO of the bid committee, opted not to receive payment.

That's some funny shit right there. Thanks 4 the laugh. You really don't and can't understand how the most corrupt city in our Nation works....

Considering it has one of, if not the most, corrupt police force in the country

eddiec

rgambs said:

Americans bastardize the names of foreign places so much that the people from those places don't even recognize the names.
I keep hearing about Ree-O Day Janairo on the news lol
It's Hee-O Dja-nayo.
I experienced this one and Cal-Cut-Uh (actually Cal-cuttuh) when I was young, I learned a bit about foreign languages to spare myself more "typical American" embarassment lol

What do you expect? Most Americans can't say New Orleans correctly. lol

Degeneratefk

rgambs said:

Americans bastardize the names of foreign places so much that the people from those places don't even recognize the names.
I keep hearing about Ree-O Day Janairo on the news lol
It's Hee-O Dja-nayo.
I experienced this one and Cal-Cut-Uh (actually Cal-cuttuh) when I was young, I learned a bit about foreign languages to spare myself more "typical American" embarassment lol

A bit over dramiatic. Rio is rio.

I'm not by any means an expert of pronunciations, but it really looks like cal-cut-ah is pronounced the same as cal-cuttuh. I understand emphasis, but one must account for accent and dialect.

rgambs

hedonist said:

Hi, gambo!

I'd never know there was a proper way of saying Rio's name. But we learn!

Kind of like Ibiza / Ibitha...Barcelona / Barthelona...Zaragoza / Tharagotha (last one's my favorite ). Again, we learn!

Given my heritage, I've always pronounced Iran "E-Rahn", but my husband usually says "I-Ran". It's OK by me, just a matter of dialect and exposure. No disrespect intended, of that I'm sure.

I-Ran is another one that bothers me, along with I-Rack.
Pet peeves lol

rustneversleeps

Degeneratefk said:

rgambs said:

Americans bastardize the names of foreign places so much that the people from those places don't even recognize the names.
I keep hearing about Ree-O Day Janairo on the news lol
It's Hee-O Dja-nayo.
I experienced this one and Cal-Cut-Uh (actually Cal-cuttuh) when I was young, I learned a bit about foreign languages to spare myself more "typical American" embarassment lol

A bit over dramiatic. Rio is rio.

I'm not by any means an expert of pronunciations, but it really looks like cal-cut-ah is pronounced the same as cal-cuttuh. I understand emphasis, but one must account for accent and dialect.

a bit?

Godfather.

lukin2006 said:

^^^agreed ... To address the OP, isn't this like every olympics ...

yes, Olympic games locations are given to the highest bid I believe so it's all about money, the USAC also choses it's location according to bid and it really sucks.

Godfather.

rgambs

Degeneratefk said:

rgambs said:

Americans bastardize the names of foreign places so much that the people from those places don't even recognize the names.
I keep hearing about Ree-O Day Janairo on the news lol
It's Hee-O Dja-nayo.
I experienced this one and Cal-Cut-Uh (actually Cal-cuttuh) when I was young, I learned a bit about foreign languages to spare myself more "typical American" embarassment lol

A bit over dramiatic. Rio is rio.

I'm not by any means an expert of pronunciations, but it really looks like cal-cut-ah is pronounced the same as cal-cuttuh. I understand emphasis, but one must account for accent and dialect.

Calcutta is harder to differentiate with writing, but verbally it is a big difference.

Rio is not Rio.
Rio is He-O.

It may not be a big deal to you, but if you travel abroad much, or have international friends, people will be embarrassed for you even if you aren't yourself.

When my brother from a Brazilian mother introduces himself to Americans he says "Hi, I am Hee-cardo", and Americans (I think most feel self conscious using accents) say "nice to meet you Ree-cardo", it irks me to no end. It's one thing to get emphasis wrong, that can be difficult, but to change the opening consonant?

Godfather.

Degeneratefk said:

rgambs said:

Americans bastardize the names of foreign places so much that the people from those places don't even recognize the names.
I keep hearing about Ree-O Day Janairo on the news lol
It's Hee-O Dja-nayo.
I experienced this one and Cal-Cut-Uh (actually Cal-cuttuh) when I was young, I learned a bit about foreign languages to spare myself more "typical American" embarassment lol

A bit over dramiatic. Rio is rio.

I'm not by any means an expert of pronunciations, but it really looks like cal-cut-ah is pronounced the same as cal-cuttuh. I understand emphasis, but one must account for accent and dialect.

ummmmmm.

Godfather.

Godfather.

rgambs said:

Godfather. said:

I have friends competing in the Olympics in Rio.....what a nasty shit hole to hold the Olympics in ! I've been talking to friends who are concerned about their safety in Rio and news stories like this say why.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/australian-paralympic-olympians-robbed-gunpoint-rio/

with all the tourist and athletes there it must be a hay-day for the criminals.

Godfather.

Rio is not that bad, and neither is Sao Paulo.
Didn't you used to live in LA? There are dangers and drawbacks to every large metropolis, that's why I avoid them all lol

yes I did and so do I LOL !!!!

Godfather.

rustneversleeps

rgambs said:

Degeneratefk said:

rgambs said:

Americans bastardize the names of foreign places so much that the people from those places don't even recognize the names.
I keep hearing about Ree-O Day Janairo on the news lol
It's Hee-O Dja-nayo.
I experienced this one and Cal-Cut-Uh (actually Cal-cuttuh) when I was young, I learned a bit about foreign languages to spare myself more "typical American" embarassment lol

A bit over dramiatic. Rio is rio.

I'm not by any means an expert of pronunciations, but it really looks like cal-cut-ah is pronounced the same as cal-cuttuh. I understand emphasis, but one must account for accent and dialect.

Calcutta is harder to differentiate with writing, but verbally it is a big difference.

Rio is not Rio.
Rio is He-O.

It may not be a big deal to you, but if you travel abroad much, or have international friends, people will be embarrassed for you even if you aren't yourself.

When my brother from a Brazilian mother introduces himself to Americans he says "Hi, I am Hee-cardo", and Americans (I think most feel self conscious using accents) say "nice to meet you Ree-cardo", it irks me to no end. It's one thing to get emphasis wrong, that can be difficult, but to change the opening consonant?

im embarrassed reading this... now could you please pass the Grey Poupon?

PJ_Soul

rgambs said:

Americans bastardize the names of foreign places so much that the people from those places don't even recognize the names.
I keep hearing about Ree-O Day Janairo on the news lol
It's Hee-O Dja-nayo.
I experienced this one and Cal-Cut-Uh (actually Cal-cuttuh) when I was young, I learned a bit about foreign languages to spare myself more "typical American" embarassment lol

I guess, although really it's just people saying place names in their own languages/accents, no? Most other countries in the world have their own why of saying "United States of America" too. I.e. the French call it Etats-Unis d'Amerique. And they don't pronounce "Canada" the same way I do either. Neither does anyone with an accent, usually.

AS242348

g under p said:

PJ_Soul said:

^^^ That is disgusting.
Well, we'll see..... we've seen some pretty impressive last minute fixes for past Olympics... maybe Rio will pull it out of their asses yet... I doubt it, but maybe.

I doubt it as well, I think they've accepted the fact that they will not live up to an 80% clean up for the Olympics. It's just not going to happen, just think if they couldn't clean up their city for the FIRST Olympics in the Southern Hemisphere they will NEVER clean this city up.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jan/23/rio-pledge-cut-pollution-official

Peace

While I agree with your general point, the pedant in me needs to point out this will be the third Olympics in the Southern Hemisphere after Melbourne (1956) and Sydney (2000).

jnimhaoileoin

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

Americans bastardize the names of foreign places so much that the people from those places don't even recognize the names.
I keep hearing about Ree-O Day Janairo on the news lol
It's Hee-O Dja-nayo.
I experienced this one and Cal-Cut-Uh (actually Cal-cuttuh) when I was young, I learned a bit about foreign languages to spare myself more "typical American" embarassment lol

I guess, although really it's just people saying place names in their own languages/accents, no? Most other countries in the world have their own why of saying "United States of America" too. I.e. the French call it Etats-Unis d'Amerique. And they don't pronounce "Canada" the same way I do either. Neither does anyone with an accent, usually.

Exactly, I don't see a problem with us pronouncing things as they would be pronounced in our own language using our phonetics. People's names are different, I think it's disrespectful or at least lazy not to make the effort to pronounce someone's name the way they have told you it should be pronounced.

As far as placenames go, though, I don't think Rio is going to be offended by the fact that everyone who speaks English as their first language pronounces it Ree-o...

g under p

AS242348 said:

g under p said:

PJ_Soul said:

^^^ That is disgusting.
Well, we'll see..... we've seen some pretty impressive last minute fixes for past Olympics... maybe Rio will pull it out of their asses yet... I doubt it, but maybe.

I doubt it as well, I think they've accepted the fact that they will not live up to an 80% clean up for the Olympics. It's just not going to happen, just think if they couldn't clean up their city for the FIRST Olympics in the Southern Hemisphere they will NEVER clean this city up.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jan/23/rio-pledge-cut-pollution-official

Peace

While I agree with your general point, the pedant in me needs to point out this will be the third Olympics in the Southern Hemisphere after Melbourne (1956) and Sydney (2000).

I stand corrected I wrote that slightly incorrect. What I should have written is.....this is the FIRST Olympics in South America. I hope no one gets sick and that Brazil can pull this off without any negative incidents.

Peace

eddiec

Rory Mcilroy pulled out.

PJ_Soul

I completely forgot that golf is an Olympic sport.

Jason P

I think a lot of golfers will opt out. The format is dumb because it's just like a typical tournament. The Ryder Cup means more in my opinion.

Degeneratefk

jnimhaoileoin said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

Americans bastardize the names of foreign places so much that the people from those places don't even recognize the names.
I keep hearing about Ree-O Day Janairo on the news lol
It's Hee-O Dja-nayo.
I experienced this one and Cal-Cut-Uh (actually Cal-cuttuh) when I was young, I learned a bit about foreign languages to spare myself more "typical American" embarassment lol

I guess, although really it's just people saying place names in their own languages/accents, no? Most other countries in the world have their own why of saying "United States of America" too. I.e. the French call it Etats-Unis d'Amerique. And they don't pronounce "Canada" the same way I do either. Neither does anyone with an accent, usually.

Exactly, I don't see a problem with us pronouncing things as they would be pronounced in our own language using our phonetics. People's names are different, I think it's disrespectful or at least lazy not to make the effort to pronounce someone's name the way they have told you it should be pronounced.

As far as placenames go, though, I don't think Rio is going to be offended by the fact that everyone who speaks English as their first language pronounces it Ree-o...

Unless Rio is a millennial.