Him resigining was predicted if the vote was to leave
Honestly, this story has barely been on the radar for me until 2 days ago. I don't live under a rock, so I am pretty sure there has just been very little news coverage about it here until a day or two before the vote happened, so while i know some about the wider implications to Britain and the EU (and Canada), i know basically nothing about the internal politics surrounding the whole thing. I only learned yesterday that Cameron lead the charge to stay in fact. I can only assume that the Canadian media decided that there wasn't a big story to report until an decision was made, I don't know.
I'm no expert but we already have a trade agreement with the EU, so getting a trade agreement with the U.K. should happen, but who cares if we get a free trade agreement with the U.K., not like these trade agreements have benefited the little guy ... To me democracy won the day, the world needs less politicians, less governmemrnt and less bureacrats...
I am not in favour of these trade agreements. None of them seem to benefit Canada.
International trade agreements are not designed or intended to benefit the working class... they are 100% purely for the benefit of the ruling elite business class
That's not conspiracy, that's not a stretch, that's just obvious
I've never heard of this guy before watching this. He makes several good points. I'm interested in hearing anyone opposed to the UK leaving the EU, argue against this.
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TIME Magazine These Brexit Voters Think They Have Made a Horrible Mistake Tara John @tarajohn 10:16 AM ET
"I didn’t think my vote was going to matter too much"
Some Brexit voters are regretting their choice after U.K.’s momentous decision to leave the E.U. on Thursday, which caused the British pound to hit a 30-year low.
On the BBC, a Brexit voter introduced as Adam said that he was “shocked” that Britain voted to Leave. “I did not think that was going to happen, I didn’t think my vote was going to matter too much because I thought we were just going to remain,” he said, adding that the resignation of U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron has “blown me away,” resulting in a magnified “period of uncertainty.”
From Manchester Airport, another voter, Mandy, told ITV news that she is disappointed with her choice. “This morning I woke up and the reality did actually hit me, if I had the opportunity to vote again it would be to stay,” she told ITV.
Others took to Twitter to air their grievances
The Boy El Pablo @ELIJAH_XVII Lol starting to regret my vote #EURefResults 6:43 AM - 24 Jun 2016 9 9 Retweets 1 1 like
Tom Walker @thomaswalker93 Urm I think I kinda regret my vote, I had no real reason to pick what I did!! 12:06 AM - 24 Jun 2016 15 15 Retweets 6 6 likes
khembe @rambogiblet I personally voted leave believing these lies and I regret it more than anything, I feel genuinely robbed of my vote
It is super frustrating to hear about these people who regret their leave vote. Why don't people take voting more seriously? It's like they aren't quite connected to reality or something.
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As someone who voted to remain I find it quite difficult to explain how saddened I am by the vote to leave. I believe it to be a short sighted and isolationist move which was fueled by a storm of xenophobic lies disseminated by the leave side and the genuine pressures that lots of our public services are feeling after several years of austerity. Couple that with the apparent inability to make a positive case for remain and you were left with the perfect storm. Everybody always needs a scapegoat and ours was the people coming to Britain to work and make a better life for themselves. As a friend put it earlier: Fuck off all the young fit healthy working age people who want to come here, welcome back the old, sick, sit on a sun lounger all day expats who are going to piss and moan about the fucking weather. I don't begin to pretend that I think the EU is a perfect institution as it really does need some over-arching reform but surely it is better to be a strong advocate for that change and remain within the EU instead of sitting on the sidelines pretending that Britannia still rules the waves and insisting that we have some kind of God given right to access the single market whilst not contributing to it at all. Yes people will still trade with us but with much more hinderence. Yes we can still travel but probably not with the same ease we have enjoyed for the past 15-20 years and in all likely hood the UK will now dissolve into it's constituent parts. Scotland is already beginning to push for a second independence referendum. Again though this is just my one take on it. Sure as shit going to make buying pearl jam vinyl a hell of a lot more expensive over the next few months/years.
From Sadiq Khan: "I want to send a clear message to every European resident living in London - you are very welcome here. As a city, we are grateful for the enormous contribution you make, and that will not change as a result of this referendum. There are nearly one million European citizens living in London today, and they bring huge benefits to our city - working hard, paying taxes, working in our public services and contributing to our civic and cultural life. We all have a responsibility to now seek to heal the divisions that have emerged throughout this campaign - and to focus on what unites us, rather than that which divides us".
I am not too familiar with the UK's economic and social statuses. Here in the USA the middle class is shrinking significantly and I suspect in the UK it may be the same way. When I hear that London doesn't like the Brexit I think about the wealthy people living in one of the most expensive cities in the world who get rich off the current structure being inconvenienced, and that the hardworking bus driver or police officer making the minimum are probably going to keep making the minimum because you can't pay them much lower. The French and Germans will still want UK to buy their stuff so they can't squeeze the UK too much on trade, so at the end of the day I am not sure how major this Brexit will be in the long-term, except for providing more autonomy on political/social decisions to the UK than they held previously.
At the end of the day I won't cry for any wealthy people from London who get rich at the expense of the working man, and am surprised that more on this board aren't taking the same view. But, I don't pretend to know a lot about the situation but just know that the global elite wanted them to stay and the global elite at the end of the day cause most of the world's problems and setup the financial system to be the way it is currently.
I can dig it
The world has survived this long... what's all the doom & gloom? Something tells me everything will be just fine
Americans would NEVER agree to a North American Union... so honestly we shouldn't judge one way or another
Good ... This Canadian never wants to see a North American Union idea ever presented ... No thank you, we have enough politicians and bureaucrats fucking things up, we do not need another level of bureaucracy.
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From Sadiq Khan: "I want to send a clear message to every European resident living in London - you are very welcome here. As a city, we are grateful for the enormous contribution you make, and that will not change as a result of this referendum. There are nearly one million European citizens living in London today, and they bring huge benefits to our city - working hard, paying taxes, working in our public services and contributing to our civic and cultural life. We all have a responsibility to now seek to heal the divisions that have emerged throughout this campaign - and to focus on what unites us, rather than that which divides us".
I am not too familiar with the UK's economic and social statuses. Here in the USA the middle class is shrinking significantly and I suspect in the UK it may be the same way. When I hear that London doesn't like the Brexit I think about the wealthy people living in one of the most expensive cities in the world who get rich off the current structure being inconvenienced, and that the hardworking bus driver or police officer making the minimum are probably going to keep making the minimum because you can't pay them much lower. The French and Germans will still want UK to buy their stuff so they can't squeeze the UK too much on trade, so at the end of the day I am not sure how major this Brexit will be in the long-term, except for providing more autonomy on political/social decisions to the UK than they held previously.
At the end of the day I won't cry for any wealthy people from London who get rich at the expense of the working man, and am surprised that more on this board aren't taking the same view. But, I don't pretend to know a lot about the situation but just know that the global elite wanted them to stay and the global elite at the end of the day cause most of the world's problems and setup the financial system to be the way it is currently.
I can dig it
The world has survived this long... what's all the doom & gloom? Something tells me everything will be just fine
Americans would NEVER agree to a North American Union... so honestly we shouldn't judge one way or another
Good ... This Canadian never wants to see a North American Union idea ever presented ... No thank you, we have enough politicians and bureaucrats fucking things up, we do not need another level of bureaucracy.
I've never even heard of this idea before. Is it a real idea??
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Could MPs block an EU exit? Could the necessary legislation pass the Commons, given that a lot of MPs - all SNP and Lib Dems, nearly all Labour and many Conservatives - were in favour of staying? The referendum result is not legally binding - Parliament still has to pass the laws that will get Britain out of the 28 nation bloc, starting with the repeal of the 1972 European Communities Act. The withdrawal agreement also has to be ratified by Parliament - the House of Lords and/or the Commons could vote against ratification, according to a House of Commons library report. In practice, Conservative MPs who voted to remain in the EU would be whipped to vote with the government. Any who defied the whip would have to face the wrath of voters at the next general election. One scenario that could see the referendum result overturned, is if MPs forced a general election and a party campaigned on a promise to keep Britain in the EU, got elected and then claimed that the election mandate topped the referendum one. Two-thirds of MPs would have to vote for a general election to be held before the next scheduled one in 2020.
Yeah, I read that the government can still stop it... although given Cameron's announcement, I'm assuming that's unlikely. But who knows. This whole thing seems pretty fucking weird to me, if people who voted are regretting their votes the morning after, lol. It's like they all got drunk and did something they shouldn't have, and are now waking up with their hangovers and their regrets.... which is, actually, pretty British of them.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
When all of the political, financial, and media elites are opposed to something and say this is a bad thing while spewing fear and gloom.... it tells me the people of Britain made the right choice
It seems like mostly everybody is upset about this. And I'm like. Did you vote?
Apparently the turnout was 70%. The other 30% should be ashamed of themselves.
Not only do people have the right to vote, but that also means they have the right NOT to vote. An uneducated vote is far worse than someone choosing not to vote.
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It seems like mostly everybody is upset about this. And I'm like. Did you vote?
Apparently the turnout was 70%. The other 30% should be ashamed of themselves.
Not only do people have the right to vote, but that also means they have the right NOT to vote. An uneducated vote is far worse than someone choosing not to vote.
I would agree for normal elections, but for a vote of this magnitude, I agree with PJ.
It seems like mostly everybody is upset about this. And I'm like. Did you vote?
Apparently the turnout was 70%. The other 30% should be ashamed of themselves.
Not only do people have the right to vote, but that also means they have the right NOT to vote. An uneducated vote is far worse than someone choosing not to vote.
I didn't say I thought they should vote without being informed. That is a stupid thing to do and would also be shameful. Shame on them for not voting if they are informed, and shame on them for not voting and being uninformed as well.
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That's not conspiracy, that's not a stretch, that's just obvious
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TIME Magazine
These Brexit Voters Think They Have Made a Horrible Mistake
Tara John @tarajohn 10:16 AM ET
"I didn’t think my vote was going to matter too much"
Some Brexit voters are regretting their choice after U.K.’s momentous decision to leave the E.U. on Thursday, which caused the British pound to hit a 30-year low.
On the BBC, a Brexit voter introduced as Adam said that he was “shocked” that Britain voted to Leave. “I did not think that was going to happen, I didn’t think my vote was going to matter too much because I thought we were just going to remain,” he said, adding that the resignation of U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron has “blown me away,” resulting in a magnified “period of uncertainty.”
From Manchester Airport, another voter, Mandy, told ITV news that she is disappointed with her choice. “This morning I woke up and the reality did actually hit me, if I had the opportunity to vote again it would be to stay,” she told ITV.
Others took to Twitter to air their grievances
The Boy El Pablo @ELIJAH_XVII
Lol starting to regret my vote #EURefResults
6:43 AM - 24 Jun 2016
9 9 Retweets 1 1 like
Tom Walker @thomaswalker93
Urm I think I kinda regret my vote, I had no real reason to pick what I did!!
12:06 AM - 24 Jun 2016
15 15 Retweets 6 6 likes
khembe @rambogiblet
I personally voted leave believing these lies and I regret it more than anything, I feel genuinely robbed of my vote
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(love the one prefaced with "lol"...really not so funny)
i have a feeling that some of the pro brexit people might have a change of heart in the not too distant future.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
It is super frustrating to hear about these people who regret their leave vote. Why don't people take voting more seriously? It's like they aren't quite connected to reality or something.
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Baby boomers at it again.
http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/heres-what-weve-learned-about-the-brexit-vote-a-penis-on-the-ballot-paper-counts-5964945/
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887
Could MPs block an EU exit?
Could the necessary legislation pass the Commons, given that a lot of MPs - all SNP and Lib Dems, nearly all Labour and many Conservatives - were in favour of staying?
The referendum result is not legally binding - Parliament still has to pass the laws that will get Britain out of the 28 nation bloc, starting with the repeal of the 1972 European Communities Act.
The withdrawal agreement also has to be ratified by Parliament - the House of Lords and/or the Commons could vote against ratification, according to a House of Commons library report.
In practice, Conservative MPs who voted to remain in the EU would be whipped to vote with the government. Any who defied the whip would have to face the wrath of voters at the next general election.
One scenario that could see the referendum result overturned, is if MPs forced a general election and a party campaigned on a promise to keep Britain in the EU, got elected and then claimed that the election mandate topped the referendum one.
Two-thirds of MPs would have to vote for a general election to be held before the next scheduled one in 2020.
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When all of the political, financial, and media elites are opposed to something and say this is a bad thing while spewing fear and gloom.... it tells me the people of Britain made the right choice
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I'm kidding. Byrnzie always had an interesting take on these things.
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