Sadly all your points are being heavily drowned out over here by the focus on immigration - as you rightly identify. The main debate seems to be one side wanting to control the borders and stop immigration (fear of losing 'our' jobs and the potential influx of terrorism) while the other side are looking on at them wondering why they are being so racist in their views (while highlighting the positives of free movement of labour - both culturally and on our National Health Service). So its a debate very much coloured by the nations relationship with race and what it means individually to be British. IMO of course. Its certainly been fascinating understanding how completely differently people view the UK.
Half the country is stunned and frankly shitting ourselves about the future...it's not like Brexit have even laid out a plan. Scotland and London went Remain, but Scotland bound to split off from us now. Such a horribly divisive result to wake up to. 16 million sad people in UK today.
Half the country is stunned and frankly shitting ourselves about the future...it's not like Brexit have even laid out a plan. Scotland and London went Remain, but Scotland bound to split off from us now. Such a horribly divisive result to wake up to. 16 million sad people in UK today.
I kinda had an awful feeling when Newcastle was announced but went to bed praying it was an outlier. Bugger!
Well done - are you for real?!? It's a complete disaster. I for one never thought this would happen - it's actually a pretty scary lurch away from common sense and into the unknown. And if you think Trump will never become POTUS - let this be a lesson!
The brits dont know what the fuxk.they vote They thought europe was the reason of their problems..ha ha....yeah right...now when things will go worst..when all benefits ends..when pound wll go down and cost of life goes up..when all products comes from europe will have to.pay taxis..when all transfers out of island will cost more..when u have to pay more for vacations to the beaches of south europe..when the banks will shake now and the value of money u have wull worth more..maybe some will understand that "bad europe 'is the excuse for all bad happens to countries And the ones celebrating most of all ar the nazi parties in europe
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The brits dont know what the fuxk.they vote They thought europe was the reason of their problems..ha ha....yeah right...now when things will go worst..when all benefits ends..when pound wll go down and cost of life goes up..when all products comes from europe will have to.pay taxis..when all transfers out of island will cost more..when u have to pay more for vacations to the beaches of south europe..when the banks will shake now and the value of money u have wull worth more..maybe some will understand that "bad europe 'is the excuse for all bad happens to countries And the ones celebrating most of all ar the nazi parties in europe
This is not a vote against European citizens. It is standing up against being dictated to by unelected cronies who have control over the population. This EU concept is fundamentally flawed in its current state and the rise of more extreme groups you refer to are just a symptom of the anti democratic EU. This vote will bring hope to an impoverished EU. No doubt there will be volatility in the short or medium term but there is a price to pay for standing up for democracy. I have studied this for years so try to forget the anti immigration issue and focus on why things are the way they are can be done to fix it. If the EU is serious about its future they must start listening to the people and certainly this unsustainable system must be dramatically reformed. I sincerely think it is a victory for good though it doesn't help being labeled anti immigrant. I now have hope for Europe which I admit was non existent before this referendum. I really hope that Dan Hannan will become PM now as he is positive, passionate about democracy and a uniting figure who rejects any negative immigration sentiment. Good luck Europe and Britain.
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This is not a vote against European citizens. It is standing up against being dictated to by unelected cronies who have control over the population. This EU concept is fundamentally flawed in its current state and the rise of more extreme groups you refer to are just a symptom of the anti democratic EU. This vote will bring hope to an impoverished EU. No doubt there will be volatility in the short or medium term but there is a price to pay for standing up for democracy. I have studied this for years so try to forget the anti immigration issue and focus on why things are the way they are can be done to fix it. If the EU is serious about its future they must start listening to the people and certainly this unsustainable system must be dramatically reformed. I sincerely think it is a victory for good though it doesn't help being labeled anti immigrant. I now have hope for Europe which I admit was non existent before this referendum
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Half the country is stunned and frankly shitting ourselves about the future...it's not like Brexit have even laid out a plan. Scotland and London went Remain, but Scotland bound to split off from us now. Such a horribly divisive result to wake up to. 16 million sad people in UK today.
Voting for change without a plan or absurb ideas is dangerous and will fuck us all. Leave voter on BBC: "I'm shocked & worried. I voted Leave but didn't think my vote would count - I never thought it would actually happen."
Scotland will have a second vote to get out of uk And I hope ireland become one again And be all free from england and all their wealth will be in their own hands
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Scotland will have a second vote to get out of uk And I hope ireland become one again And be all free from england and all their wealth will be in their own hands
Scotland voted... They said they are going to eat gyros and go fishing.
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Scotland will have a second vote to get out of uk And I hope ireland become one again And be all free from england and all their wealth will be in their own hands
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They thought europe was the reason of their problems..ha ha....yeah right...now when things will go worst..when all benefits ends..when pound wll go down and cost of life goes up..when all products comes from europe will have to.pay taxis..when all transfers out of island will cost more..when u have to pay more for vacations to the beaches of south europe..when the banks will shake now and the value of money u have wull worth more..maybe some will understand that "bad europe 'is the excuse for all bad happens to countries
And the ones celebrating most of all ar the nazi parties in europe
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Once again the polls got it all wrong, none of us saw this coming and now I need to actually figure out what it means for Ireland...
What were the Pros?
What were the Cons?
What changes will occur?
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
People are starting to reject the new "global economy"
I originally thought this was from the big market crash and PIIGS.
This story is unbelievable as I thought this would never happen.
Leave voter on BBC: "I'm shocked & worried. I voted Leave but didn't think my vote would count - I never thought it would actually happen."
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And I hope ireland become one again
And be all free from england and all their wealth will be in their own hands
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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They said they are going to eat gyros and go fishing.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....