European Union vote 2016

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  • SpagsSpags Leigh-on-Sea, UKPosts: 2,759
    Sadly all your points are being heavily drowned out over here by the focus on immigration - as you rightly identify. The main debate seems to be one side wanting to control the borders and stop immigration (fear of losing 'our' jobs and the potential influx of terrorism) while the other side are looking on at them wondering why they are being so racist in their views (while highlighting the positives of free movement of labour - both culturally and on our National Health Service). So its a debate very much coloured by the nations relationship with race and what it means individually to be British. IMO of course. Its certainly been fascinating understanding how completely differently people view the UK.
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  • SpagsSpags Leigh-on-Sea, UKPosts: 2,759
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  • newy777newy777 Posts: 89
    I enjoyed this video too if you care to take a look. All the best..
  • newy777newy777 Posts: 89
    Amazing speech about the demographic issue at stake.
  • newy777newy777 Posts: 89
    ^ democratic not demographic
  • dignindignin Posts: 7,500
    Close, but "leave" is ahead right now. I really didn't think exit was really a possibility.What the fuck do I know.
  • NoloadNoload Monticello, GeorgiaPosts: 1,200
    edited June 2016
    Well done! It's Immigration Baby!!
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  • SpagsSpags Leigh-on-Sea, UKPosts: 2,759
    Half the country is stunned and frankly shitting ourselves about the future...it's not like Brexit have even laid out a plan. Scotland and London went Remain, but Scotland bound to split off from us now. Such a horribly divisive result to wake up to. 16 million sad people in UK today.
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  • rw160510rw160510 Posts: 622
    Spags said:

    Half the country is stunned and frankly shitting ourselves about the future...it's not like Brexit have even laid out a plan. Scotland and London went Remain, but Scotland bound to split off from us now. Such a horribly divisive result to wake up to. 16 million sad people in UK today.

    I kinda had an awful feeling when Newcastle was announced but went to bed praying it was an outlier. Bugger!
  • nigelnigel Posts: 261
    Well done - are you for real?!? It's a complete disaster. I for one never thought this would happen - it's actually a pretty scary lurch away from common sense and into the unknown. And if you think Trump will never become POTUS - let this be a lesson!
  • SpagsSpags Leigh-on-Sea, UKPosts: 2,759
    Guess we better make most of next years Euro Tour (if I can afford it) as shit is about to go down!

    :(
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPROPosts: 136,506
    The brits dont know what the fuxk.they vote
    They thought europe was the reason of their problems..ha ha....yeah right...now when things will go worst..when all benefits ends..when pound wll go down and cost of life goes up..when all products comes from europe will have to.pay taxis..when all transfers out of island will cost more..when u have to pay more for vacations to the beaches of south europe..when the banks will shake now and the value of money u have wull worth more..maybe some will understand that "bad europe 'is the excuse for all bad happens to countries
    And the ones celebrating most of all ar the nazi parties in europe
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  • jnimhaoileoinjnimhaoileoin Baile Átha CliathPosts: 2,682
    I'm going to look on the bright side and look forward to an independent Scotland and a united Ireland, something good can come of this :smile:

    Once again the polls got it all wrong, none of us saw this coming and now I need to actually figure out what it means for Ireland...
  • newy777newy777 Posts: 89

    The brits dont know what the fuxk.they vote
    They thought europe was the reason of their problems..ha ha....yeah right...now when things will go worst..when all benefits ends..when pound wll go down and cost of life goes up..when all products comes from europe will have to.pay taxis..when all transfers out of island will cost more..when u have to pay more for vacations to the beaches of south europe..when the banks will shake now and the value of money u have wull worth more..maybe some will understand that "bad europe 'is the excuse for all bad happens to countries
    And the ones celebrating most of all ar the nazi parties in europe

    This is not a vote against European citizens. It is standing up against being dictated to by unelected cronies who have control over the population. This EU concept is fundamentally flawed in its current state and the rise of more extreme groups you refer to are just a symptom of the anti democratic EU. This vote will bring hope to an impoverished EU. No doubt there will be volatility in the short or medium term but there is a price to pay for standing up for democracy. I have studied this for years so try to forget the anti immigration issue and focus on why things are the way they are can be done to fix it. If the EU is serious about its future they must start listening to the people and certainly this unsustainable system must be dramatically reformed. I sincerely think it is a victory for good though it doesn't help being labeled anti immigrant. I now have hope for Europe which I admit was non existent before this referendum. I really hope that Dan Hannan will become PM now as he is positive, passionate about democracy and a uniting figure who rejects any negative immigration sentiment. Good luck Europe and Britain.
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  • bluegracebluegrace Posts: 2,336
    I can't believe Brexit won! I think they'll live to regret it...
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  • This is not a vote against European citizens. It is standing up against being dictated to by unelected cronies who have control over the population. This EU concept is fundamentally flawed in its current state and the rise of more extreme groups you refer to are just a symptom of the anti democratic EU. This vote will bring hope to an impoverished EU. No doubt there will be volatility in the short or medium term but there is a price to pay for standing up for democracy. I have studied this for years so try to forget the anti immigration issue and focus on why things are the way they are can be done to fix it. If the EU is serious about its future they must start listening to the people and certainly this unsustainable system must be dramatically reformed. I sincerely think it is a victory for good though it doesn't help being labeled anti immigrant. I now have hope for Europe which I admit was non existent before this referendum
    Well said!
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  • tino_11tino_11 Posts: 1,195
    Yes, we will, short term especially.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 18,138
    Spags said:

    Half the country is stunned and frankly shitting ourselves about the future...it's not like Brexit have even laid out a plan. Scotland and London went Remain, but Scotland bound to split off from us now. Such a horribly divisive result to wake up to. 16 million sad people in UK today.

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  • SpagsSpags Leigh-on-Sea, UKPosts: 2,759
    Pretty much so far today...
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 23,852
    Somebody please explain to this American....

    What were the Pros?
    What were the Cons?
    What changes will occur?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    This is some interesting shit going on

    People are starting to reject the new "global economy"
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 20,439
    Is this like Texas wanting to leave the US?

    I originally thought this was from the big market crash and PIIGS.

    This story is unbelievable as I thought this would never happen.
  • given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, ILPosts: 4,844
    edited June 2016
    Voting for change without a plan or absurb ideas is dangerous and will fuck us all.

    Leave voter on BBC: "I'm shocked & worried. I voted Leave but didn't think my vote would count - I never thought it would actually happen."


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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPROPosts: 136,506
    Scotland will have a second vote to get out of uk
    And I hope ireland become one again
    And be all free from england and all their wealth will be in their own hands
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  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast OhioPosts: 8,308
    Since this isn't a Porch thing, you might want to move this on to AMT or to an existing thread:
    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/256276/european-union-vote-2016#latest

    Thinking since it isn't PJ music related, mods may scoot it on over there. FYI.
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  • PJ_ROCKSPJ_ROCKS THE 406Posts: 6,733

    Somebody please explain to this American....

    What were the Pros?
    What were the Cons?
    What changes will occur?

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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 23,852

    Scotland will have a second vote to get out of uk
    And I hope ireland become one again
    And be all free from england and all their wealth will be in their own hands

    Scotland voted...
    They said they are going to eat gyros and go fishing.

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  • jnimhaoileoinjnimhaoileoin Baile Átha CliathPosts: 2,682

    Scotland will have a second vote to get out of uk
    And I hope ireland become one again
    And be all free from england and all their wealth will be in their own hands

    We can but hope!
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