Terrorist Shooting In Orlando, FL

PJ_Soul

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-gatineau-muslims-pray-raise-money-fort-mcmurray-1.3570620

http://www.chicagonow.com/midwestern-muslim/2014/01/muslims-dont-contribute-to-america-think-again/

http://xpatnation.com/10-great-american-muslims-and-their-contributions-to-the-united-states/

Godfather.

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/06/15/how-a-heroic-marines-military-training-helped-him-save-dozens-from-orlando-gunman/?tid=sm_fb

I don't think the article mentions it but I would say it is very likely this guy is Muslim...last name "Yousef" which is an arabic name meaning "Allah increases power/influence"

Godfather?

my work computer wouldn't open up the link but if he is muslim great ! I'd be glad to see it.....this young kid I work with is middle eastern and a great kid if he's muslim or not I don't know and to be honest with you I don't care the kid is respectful towards me always...all this shit is giving me a headache.

Godfather.

PJ_Soul

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/06/15/how-a-heroic-marines-military-training-helped-him-save-dozens-from-orlando-gunman/?tid=sm_fb

I don't think the article mentions it but I would say it is very likely this guy is Muslim...last name "Yousef" which is an arabic name meaning "Allah increases power/influence"

Godfather?

my work computer wouldn't open up the link but if he is muslim great ! I'd be glad to see it.....this young kid I work with is middle eastern and a great kid if he's muslim or not I don't know and to be honest with you I don't care the kid is respectful towards me always...all this shit is giving me a headache.

Godfather.

I dare you to let the kid read your posts in here. If there is nothing wrong with your views, then that shouldn't be any problem.

rgambs

PJ_Soul said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/06/15/how-a-heroic-marines-military-training-helped-him-save-dozens-from-orlando-gunman/?tid=sm_fb

I don't think the article mentions it but I would say it is very likely this guy is Muslim...last name "Yousef" which is an arabic name meaning "Allah increases power/influence"

Godfather?

my work computer wouldn't open up the link but if he is muslim great ! I'd be glad to see it.....this young kid I work with is middle eastern and a great kid if he's muslim or not I don't know and to be honest with you I don't care the kid is respectful towards me always...all this shit is giving me a headache.

Godfather.

I dare you to let the kid read your posts in here. If there is nothing wrong with your views, then that shouldn't be any problem.

Yeah!!!

josevolution

rgambs said:

PJ_Soul said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/06/15/how-a-heroic-marines-military-training-helped-him-save-dozens-from-orlando-gunman/?tid=sm_fb

I don't think the article mentions it but I would say it is very likely this guy is Muslim...last name "Yousef" which is an arabic name meaning "Allah increases power/influence"

Godfather?

my work computer wouldn't open up the link but if he is muslim great ! I'd be glad to see it.....this young kid I work with is middle eastern and a great kid if he's muslim or not I don't know and to be honest with you I don't care the kid is respectful towards me always...all this shit is giving me a headache.

Godfather.

I dare you to let the kid read your posts in here. If there is nothing wrong with your views, then that shouldn't be any problem.

Yeah!!!

Yes great idea , go ahead GF

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/06/15/how-a-heroic-marines-military-training-helped-him-save-dozens-from-orlando-gunman/?tid=sm_fb

I don't think the article mentions it but I would say it is very likely this guy is Muslim...last name "Yousef" which is an arabic name meaning "Allah increases power/influence"

Godfather?

my work computer wouldn't open up the link but if he is muslim great ! I'd be glad to see it.....this young kid I work with is middle eastern and a great kid if he's muslim or not I don't know and to be honest with you I don't care the kid is respectful towards me always...all this shit is giving me a headache.

Godfather.

I dare you to let the kid read your posts in here. If there is nothing wrong with your views, then that shouldn't be any problem.

Ledbetterman10

Shawshank said:

My question is, why does everyone appear to be so protective of islam, and going the extra mile to not offend muslims?

I've been thinking the same thing actually. Like the notion of surveillance of mosques. I'm all for it. Would there be muslims that take offense? Sure. And they should be. But sometimes a few bad apples can spoil the bunch. I told this to my dad and he's like "But it's against the law" to which I replied, "Yeah....so what?"

And let's survey catholic rectories while we're at it.

Annafalk

I can also see negative aspects of Islam, maybe it's not the religion itself that is to blame but the way some Muslims choose to interpret their religion.

HughFreakingDillon

Ledbetterman10 said:

Shawshank said:

My question is, why does everyone appear to be so protective of islam, and going the extra mile to not offend muslims?

I've been thinking the same thing actually. Like the notion of surveillance of mosques. I'm all for it. Would there be muslims that take offense? Sure. And they should be. But sometimes a few bad apples can spoil the bunch. I told this to my dad and he's like "But it's against the law" to which I replied, "Yeah....so what?"

And let's survey catholic rectories while we're at it.

it has nothing to do with Islam specifically. it's about people painting one group with one gigantic and ignorant brush. as much as I loathe any organized religion, I would defend christianity the same way. the only time I go after it is to point out the hypocrisy in christians telling others that (insert religion here) is one of violence and should be feared.

read the fucking bible. read history. christianity thrived not through door to door annoyances; it grew from oppression and mass murder.

does anyone here go around saying all priests are child molesters? NOPE. never seen it.

PJ_Soul

Annafalk said:

I can also see negative aspects of Islam, maybe it's not the religion itself that is to blame but the way some Muslims choose to interpret their religion.

Oh, the Quran definitely contains many negative aspects, especially when it comes to the position of women in Islam. Make no mistake, Islam is a religion full of a lot of bullshit.... just like Christianity and a bunch of other religions!!

HughFreakingDillon

Annafalk said:

I can also see negative aspects of Islam, maybe it's not the religion itself that is to blame but the way some Muslims choose to interpret their religion.

same as christianity, or any other religion. except maybe buddism. not sure.

Ledbetterman10

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Shawshank said:

My question is, why does everyone appear to be so protective of islam, and going the extra mile to not offend muslims?

I've been thinking the same thing actually. Like the notion of surveillance of mosques. I'm all for it. Would there be muslims that take offense? Sure. And they should be. But sometimes a few bad apples can spoil the bunch. I told this to my dad and he's like "But it's against the law" to which I replied, "Yeah....so what?"

And let's survey catholic rectories while we're at it.

it has nothing to do with Islam specifically. it's about people painting one group with one gigantic and ignorant brush. as much as I loathe any organized religion, I would defend christianity the same way. the only time I go after it is to point out the hypocrisy in christians telling others that (insert religion here) is one of violence and should be feared.

read the fucking bible. read history. christianity thrived not through door to door annoyances; it grew from oppression and mass murder.

does anyone here go around saying all priests are child molesters? NOPE. never seen it.

I don't disagree with this at all. Not sure why ya quoted me here.

HughFreakingDillon

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Shawshank said:

My question is, why does everyone appear to be so protective of islam, and going the extra mile to not offend muslims?

I've been thinking the same thing actually. Like the notion of surveillance of mosques. I'm all for it. Would there be muslims that take offense? Sure. And they should be. But sometimes a few bad apples can spoil the bunch. I told this to my dad and he's like "But it's against the law" to which I replied, "Yeah....so what?"

And let's survey catholic rectories while we're at it.

it has nothing to do with Islam specifically. it's about people painting one group with one gigantic and ignorant brush. as much as I loathe any organized religion, I would defend christianity the same way. the only time I go after it is to point out the hypocrisy in christians telling others that (insert religion here) is one of violence and should be feared.

read the fucking bible. read history. christianity thrived not through door to door annoyances; it grew from oppression and mass murder.

does anyone here go around saying all priests are child molesters? NOPE. never seen it.

I don't disagree with this at all. Not sure why ya quoted me here.

you agreed with Shawshank who asked "why is everyone so protective of Islam" and that we should be monitoring mosques.

Ledbetterman10

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Shawshank said:

My question is, why does everyone appear to be so protective of islam, and going the extra mile to not offend muslims?

I've been thinking the same thing actually. Like the notion of surveillance of mosques. I'm all for it. Would there be muslims that take offense? Sure. And they should be. But sometimes a few bad apples can spoil the bunch. I told this to my dad and he's like "But it's against the law" to which I replied, "Yeah....so what?"

And let's survey catholic rectories while we're at it.

it has nothing to do with Islam specifically. it's about people painting one group with one gigantic and ignorant brush. as much as I loathe any organized religion, I would defend christianity the same way. the only time I go after it is to point out the hypocrisy in christians telling others that (insert religion here) is one of violence and should be feared.

read the fucking bible. read history. christianity thrived not through door to door annoyances; it grew from oppression and mass murder.

does anyone here go around saying all priests are child molesters? NOPE. never seen it.

I don't disagree with this at all. Not sure why ya quoted me here.

you agreed with Shawshank who asked "why is everyone so protective of Islam" and that we should be monitoring mosques.

Well yeah but I don't think equates to me painting one group with one gigantic and ignorant brush. If mosques were surveyed, maybe all the FBI overhears is a peaceful group of people worshipping in whatever way they worship. Or maybe they hear the plotting of a terrorist attack. I say "maybe" to each of them because I really don't know. I've never been to a mosque.

Godfather.

PJ_Soul said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/06/15/how-a-heroic-marines-military-training-helped-him-save-dozens-from-orlando-gunman/?tid=sm_fb

I don't think the article mentions it but I would say it is very likely this guy is Muslim...last name "Yousef" which is an arabic name meaning "Allah increases power/influence"

Godfather?

my work computer wouldn't open up the link but if he is muslim great ! I'd be glad to see it.....this young kid I work with is middle eastern and a great kid if he's muslim or not I don't know and to be honest with you I don't care the kid is respectful towards me always...all this shit is giving me a headache.

Godfather.

I dare you to let the kid read your posts in here. If there is nothing wrong with your views, then that shouldn't be any problem.

hahaahahahaha believe me I'd have no problem with that in fact I be interested to hear what he has to say.

Godfather.

mrussel1

Sometimes my faith in the masses is somewhat restored. The public, those who pay attention, are more rational than we think:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/poll-trump-orlando-response-224367

Godfather.

question: if your mother, sister or any loved one said she was marrying a muslim and flying to Pakistan to meet the family, wouldn't you be the least bit concerned ? my friends daughter did just that and it did not go well in fact her husbands father hated the white American girl his son married then would let her leave the house or the country, if my friend didn't have friends in government she may have never come home...you don't want to ask him about muslims.

Godfather.

mrussel1

Godfather. said:

question: if your mother, sister or any loved one said she was marrying a muslim and flying to Pakistan to meet the family, wouldn't you be the least bit concerned ? my friends daughter did just that and it did not go well in fact her husbands father hated the white American girl his son married then would let her leave the house or the country, if my friend didn't have friends in government she may have never come home...you don't want to ask him about muslims.

Godfather.

I would be concerned, of course, because of the treatment of women in that country. But that has zero to do with deporting American citizens who are Muslims, which is what you floated yesterday.

Godfather.

mrussel1 said:

Godfather. said:

question: if your mother, sister or any loved one said she was marrying a muslim and flying to Pakistan to meet the family, wouldn't you be the least bit concerned ? my friends daughter did just that and it did not go well in fact her husbands father hated the white American girl his son married then would let her leave the house or the country, if my friend didn't have friends in government she may have never come home...you don't want to ask him about muslims.

Godfather.

I would be concerned, of course, because of the treatment of women in that country. But that has zero to do with deporting American citizens who are Muslims, which is what you floated yesterday.

how else would we get a handle on the terrorism committed by "home grown muslims" ?

Godfather.

PJ_Soul

mrussel1 said:

Godfather. said:

question: if your mother, sister or any loved one said she was marrying a muslim and flying to Pakistan to meet the family, wouldn't you be the least bit concerned ? my friends daughter did just that and it did not go well in fact her husbands father hated the white American girl his son married then would let her leave the house or the country, if my friend didn't have friends in government she may have never come home...you don't want to ask him about muslims.

Godfather.

I would be concerned, of course, because of the treatment of women in that country. But that has zero to do with deporting American citizens who are Muslims, which is what you floated yesterday.

Exactly. Why throw out some random scenario about a family member marrying into an incompatible family?? That has nothing to do with what we're talking about. I would also be concerned if my family member met a Mormon whose family lived in one of those Utah polygamist compounds and disapproved of that marriage ... That doesn't have anything to do with deporting citizens and treating a group like the Nazis treated the Jews in the mid- to late '30s either.