most corporations are fairly benign ... the big ones are brutal and are the primary causes of poverty, environmental degradation and trampling of human rights ...
in any case - it's unfortunate to see bernie endorse hilary ... it's almost like all that rhetoric was a marketing pitch ... that tweet from trump that likens his support to that of occupy supporting goldman sachs is spot on ...
Some of those are pretty brutal. Some are pretty funny, too.
Anyone who didn't see this coming were either neophytes or fooling themselves. Bernie and his supporters should be happy. They got some important changes to the platform. This country's 'change model' is incrementalism. The system is set up to prevent wholesale, radical change. Our checks and balances prevent it. On balance, that's a really good thing.
Oh and I like the one extolling anarcho-communism/socialism whatever the fuck that is. What a complete jack ass. He can go fuck himself in his communist state.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/bernie-is-now-officially-part-of-a-rigged-system Today, Bernie Sanders will be endorsing one of the most pro-war, pro-wall street, and pro-off shoring candidates in the history of the Democratic Party. The candidate who ran against special interests is endorsing the candidate who embodies special interests. The candidate who ran against TPP is endorsing the candidate who helped draft the TPP. The candidate who ran in opposition to globalization is running against the candidate who has led the push for globalization. The candidate who warned that open borders destroy the working class is endorsing the candidate with the most open borders policy in our history. The candidate who wants to reform H1-B visas is endorsing the candidate who supported lifting the caps on H1-B visas. The candidate who wants less war is endorsing the candidate who launched wars in Iraq and Libya and would lead us to a new war in Syria. The candidate who wants to get money out of politics is voting for the candidate who has made a career out of making money from politics.
Bernie's endorsement becomes Exhibit A in our rigged system - the Democrat Party is disenfranchising its voters to benefit the select and privileged few
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most corporations are fairly benign ... the big ones are brutal and are the primary causes of poverty, environmental degradation and trampling of human rights ...
in any case - it's unfortunate to see bernie endorse hilary ... it's almost like all that rhetoric was a marketing pitch ... that tweet from trump that likens his support to that of occupy supporting goldman sachs is spot on ...
Only a short break to chime in here but this is exactly one of the reasons why I can't support either major party any longer. Bernie was the Democrats last hope and Trump is the Republicans last breath. They will both go down in flames along with the rest of us if we don't start pushing for leaders who will lead us away from extinction (or, if you really want to be cynical, push us there much quicker and give some of the other large fauna a fighting chance.)
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
most corporations are fairly benign ... the big ones are brutal and are the primary causes of poverty, environmental degradation and trampling of human rights ...
in any case - it's unfortunate to see bernie endorse hilary ... it's almost like all that rhetoric was a marketing pitch ... that tweet from trump that likens his support to that of occupy supporting goldman sachs is spot on ...
Only a short break to chime in here but this is exactly one of the reasons why I can't support either major party any longer. Bernie was the Democrats last hope and Trump is the Republicans last breath. They will both go down in flames along with the rest of us if we don't start pushing for leaders who will lead us away from extinction (or, if you really want to be cynical, push us there much quicker and give some of the other large fauna a fighting chance.)
Agreed!
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most corporations are fairly benign ... the big ones are brutal and are the primary causes of poverty, environmental degradation and trampling of human rights ...
in any case - it's unfortunate to see bernie endorse hilary ... it's almost like all that rhetoric was a marketing pitch ... that tweet from trump that likens his support to that of occupy supporting goldman sachs is spot on ...
Only a short break to chime in here but this is exactly one of the reasons why I can't support either major party any longer. Bernie was the Democrats last hope and Trump is the Republicans last breath. They will both go down in flames along with the rest of us if we don't start pushing for leaders who will lead us away from extinction (or, if you really want to be cynical, push us there much quicker and give some of the other large fauna a fighting chance.)
Agreed!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
most corporations are fairly benign ... the big ones are brutal and are the primary causes of poverty, environmental degradation and trampling of human rights ...
in any case - it's unfortunate to see bernie endorse hilary ... it's almost like all that rhetoric was a marketing pitch ... that tweet from trump that likens his support to that of occupy supporting goldman sachs is spot on ...
Only a short break to chime in here but this is exactly one of the reasons why I can't support either major party any longer. Bernie was the Democrats last hope and Trump is the Republicans last breath. They will both go down in flames along with the rest of us if we don't start pushing for leaders who will lead us away from extinction (or, if you really want to be cynical, push us there much quicker and give some of the other large fauna a fighting chance.)
Some of those are pretty brutal. Some are pretty funny, too.
I like this one. I wonder if a little birdie has recently told them the Sanders sold them out and to vote Hillary instead! http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/12/
Brian, I also agree with you that if we do elect Drumpf, we get what we deserve. But, I still don't think he wants it enough to win, then govern for 4 years.
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Brian, I also agree with you that if we do elect Drumpf, we get what we deserve. But, I still don't think he wants it enough to win, then govern for 4 years.
I'm sure he's rather be off somewhere tanning or bleaching his hair, LOL!
most corporations are fairly benign ... the big ones are brutal and are the primary causes of poverty, environmental degradation and trampling of human rights ...
in any case - it's unfortunate to see bernie endorse hilary ... it's almost like all that rhetoric was a marketing pitch ... that tweet from trump that likens his support to that of occupy supporting goldman sachs is spot on ...
Only a short break to chime in here but this is exactly one of the reasons why I can't support either major party any longer. Bernie was the Democrats last hope and Trump is the Republicans last breath. They will both go down in flames along with the rest of us if we don't start pushing for leaders who will lead us away from extinction (or, if you really want to be cynical, push us there much quicker and give some of the other large fauna a fighting chance.)
Agreed!
So you two are not voting this year then?
Oh, I am, for sure!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Brian, I also agree with you that if we do elect Drumpf, we get what we deserve. But, I still don't think he wants it enough to win, then govern for 4 years.
I'm sure he's rather be off somewhere tanning or bleaching his hair, LOL!
most corporations are fairly benign ... the big ones are brutal and are the primary causes of poverty, environmental degradation and trampling of human rights ...
in any case - it's unfortunate to see bernie endorse hilary ... it's almost like all that rhetoric was a marketing pitch ... that tweet from trump that likens his support to that of occupy supporting goldman sachs is spot on ...
Only a short break to chime in here but this is exactly one of the reasons why I can't support either major party any longer. Bernie was the Democrats last hope and Trump is the Republicans last breath. They will both go down in flames along with the rest of us if we don't start pushing for leaders who will lead us away from extinction (or, if you really want to be cynical, push us there much quicker and give some of the other large fauna a fighting chance.)
Agreed!
So you two are not voting this year then?
Oh, I am, for sure!
Ha, ha
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Brian, I also agree with you that if we do elect Drumpf, we get what we deserve. But, I still don't think he wants it enough to win, then govern for 4 years.
I'm sure he's rather be off somewhere tanning or bleaching his hair, LOL!
most corporations are fairly benign ... the big ones are brutal and are the primary causes of poverty, environmental degradation and trampling of human rights ...
in any case - it's unfortunate to see bernie endorse hilary ... it's almost like all that rhetoric was a marketing pitch ... that tweet from trump that likens his support to that of occupy supporting goldman sachs is spot on ...
Only a short break to chime in here but this is exactly one of the reasons why I can't support either major party any longer. Bernie was the Democrats last hope and Trump is the Republicans last breath. They will both go down in flames along with the rest of us if we don't start pushing for leaders who will lead us away from extinction (or, if you really want to be cynical, push us there much quicker and give some of the other large fauna a fighting chance.)
Agreed!
So you two are not voting this year then?
Oh, I am, for sure!
Ha, ha
Haha! Yep.
But what can a poor boy do 'cept to play in a rock and roll band?
Well only this: Another horse goes lame in the middle of the stream? New horse! Bernie had his chance and now cast his lot with HRC. No use crying. Move on.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I didn't agree that the mindless TV people will just mute and eat cheezy-poofs. Are you kidding? Trump's antics are exactly what those people live for! It's the ultimate reality TV show, featuring everyone's favorite reality TV celebrity. The uninformed voters are exactly who will eat this shit up and Trump knows it. That is why he is 100% playing to the lowest common denominator. He has a rapt audience in these people. And they love to vote for their favorite reality TV stars. You should see all the votes that they send into American Idol.
That's why trump is going to lose in record breaking fashion.
Yes... as long as the left doesn't split too much.
It's scary, the left is eager for revolution (in a totally pie-eyed an naive way IMO) and it is setting the stage for Trump to come way too close. People are "not worried about Trump" as though the Bush years never happened.
Trump will not be president. You watch.
I hope you are right, but I'm not sitting back and leaving the dirty work for someone else to do, I am wading into the mire and voting for Clinton. You can thank me in November for saving your ass and doing your dirty work for you lol
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Wow. 80k. That will get her a couple 30 second spots.
I think you missed the point. Besides, since when did the most money mean the best person? If most money wins, I'm down fairly low in the standings cellar. Fine by me.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Wow. 80k. That will get her a couple 30 second spots.
I think you missed the point. Besides, since when did the most money mean the best person? If most money wins, I'm down fairly low in the standings cellar. Fine by me.
It means if you want to compete in a general election, which takes people, phone banks, get out the vote operations, travel, advertising spots, then you need money.
When Jill Stein ran for Gov of MA in 2010, she got like 1.5% of the vote. It's about the bluest state in the union. Her message does not resonate with most people. Sorry.
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Wow. 80k. That will get her a couple 30 second spots.
I think you missed the point. Besides, since when did the most money mean the best person? If most money wins, I'm down fairly low in the standings cellar. Fine by me.
It means if you want to compete in a general election, which takes people, phone banks, get out the vote operations, travel, advertising spots, then you need money.
Yep, that's how it works. Can we have some campaign finacne reform, please?
When Jill Stein ran for Gov of MA in 2010, she got like 1.5% of the vote. It's about the bluest state in the union. Her message does not resonate with most people. Sorry.
Well, sorry but the average American (at least) is rather uninformed and reckless are they not? (I'm restraining myself while thinking of a classic George Carlin routine.) What say we work to build a better educated America and encourage people to make better, more informed choice, eh?
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Wow. 80k. That will get her a couple 30 second spots.
I think you missed the point. Besides, since when did the most money mean the best person? If most money wins, I'm down fairly low in the standings cellar. Fine by me.
It means if you want to compete in a general election, which takes people, phone banks, get out the vote operations, travel, advertising spots, then you need money.
Yep, that's how it works. Can we have some campaign finacne reform, please?
When Jill Stein ran for Gov of MA in 2010, she got like 1.5% of the vote. It's about the bluest state in the union. Her message does not resonate with most people. Sorry.
Well, sorry but the average American (at least) is rather uninformed and reckless are they not? (I'm restraining myself while thinking of a classic George Carlin routine.) What say we work to build a better educated America and encourage people to make better, more informed choice, eh?
Because Jill Stein has zero history of accomplishing anything, let alone winning an election.
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Wow. 80k. That will get her a couple 30 second spots.
I think you missed the point. Besides, since when did the most money mean the best person? If most money wins, I'm down fairly low in the standings cellar. Fine by me.
It means if you want to compete in a general election, which takes people, phone banks, get out the vote operations, travel, advertising spots, then you need money.
Yep, that's how it works. Can we have some campaign finacne reform, please?
When Jill Stein ran for Gov of MA in 2010, she got like 1.5% of the vote. It's about the bluest state in the union. Her message does not resonate with most people. Sorry.
Well, sorry but the average American (at least) is rather uninformed and reckless are they not? (I'm restraining myself while thinking of a classic George Carlin routine.) What say we work to build a better educated America and encourage people to make better, more informed choice, eh?
Because Jill Stein has zero history of accomplishing anything, let alone winning an election.
You really are afraid of change, aren't you? Go ahead, play it safe but let me ask you, has the status quo made life for us and the rest of life on earth better? In my nearly 65 years of walking around on this planet I totally believe things in general are definitely not getting better (more and more frequent wars, more disease, continued population explosion, more international strife, more religious fanaticism on all sides, more acceleration of species die off, more radioactivity, shall I go on?) and if we don't make some changes quick, we are all fucked.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Wow. 80k. That will get her a couple 30 second spots.
I think you missed the point. Besides, since when did the most money mean the best person? If most money wins, I'm down fairly low in the standings cellar. Fine by me.
It means if you want to compete in a general election, which takes people, phone banks, get out the vote operations, travel, advertising spots, then you need money.
Yep, that's how it works. Can we have some campaign finacne reform, please?
When Jill Stein ran for Gov of MA in 2010, she got like 1.5% of the vote. It's about the bluest state in the union. Her message does not resonate with most people. Sorry.
Well, sorry but the average American (at least) is rather uninformed and reckless are they not? (I'm restraining myself while thinking of a classic George Carlin routine.) What say we work to build a better educated America and encourage people to make better, more informed choice, eh?
Because Jill Stein has zero history of accomplishing anything, let alone winning an election.
You really are afraid of change, aren't you? Go ahead, play it safe but let me ask you, has the status quo made life for us and the rest of life on earth better? In my nearly 65 years of walking around on this planet I totally believe things in general are definitely not getting better (more and more frequent wars, more disease, continued population explosion, more international strife, more religious fanaticism on all sides, more acceleration of species die off, more radioactivity, shall I go on?) and if we don't make some changes quick, we are all fucked.
I fear incompetence, not change.
And you seriously think things are not better today? 100 years ago we were embroiled in a world war, the first of two that devastated the planet. The influenza epidemic just killed millions world wide. Polio devastated children. Blacks were under the yoke of Jim Crow. You call that a draw with today?
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Wow. 80k. That will get her a couple 30 second spots.
I think you missed the point. Besides, since when did the most money mean the best person? If most money wins, I'm down fairly low in the standings cellar. Fine by me.
It means if you want to compete in a general election, which takes people, phone banks, get out the vote operations, travel, advertising spots, then you need money.
Yep, that's how it works. Can we have some campaign finacne reform, please?
When Jill Stein ran for Gov of MA in 2010, she got like 1.5% of the vote. It's about the bluest state in the union. Her message does not resonate with most people. Sorry.
Well, sorry but the average American (at least) is rather uninformed and reckless are they not? (I'm restraining myself while thinking of a classic George Carlin routine.) What say we work to build a better educated America and encourage people to make better, more informed choice, eh?
Because Jill Stein has zero history of accomplishing anything, let alone winning an election.
You really are afraid of change, aren't you? Go ahead, play it safe but let me ask you, has the status quo made life for us and the rest of life on earth better? In my nearly 65 years of walking around on this planet I totally believe things in general are definitely not getting better (more and more frequent wars, more disease, continued population explosion, more international strife, more religious fanaticism on all sides, more acceleration of species die off, more radioactivity, shall I go on?) and if we don't make some changes quick, we are all fucked.
I fear incompetence, not change.
And you seriously think things are not better today? 100 years ago we were embroiled in a world war, the first of two that devastated the planet. The influenza epidemic just killed millions world wide. Polio devastated children. Blacks were under the yoke of Jim Crow. You call that a draw with today?
Yes, I believe we are in worse shape today.
100 years ago we were not changing the climate (although the wheels were set in motion that way with the beginning of the industrial revolution).
Yes, some social issues have improved but others have degraded.
Epidemics occurred throughout history but today a massive pandemic looms on the horizon due to our over-use of antibiotics.
Though I do not cherish the thought, epidemics and infant mortality helped limit our population. Today we continue to breed like rabbits. The projected human population by 2050 is 9.7 billion the end of the century is 11.2 billion. It was a little less than 2.6 billion when I was born.
As far as I know and reasonably can assume, 100 years ago we did not consume more than the earth provided for us by August of each year (AKA earth overshoot day) as we do now.
100 years ago we could not annihilate all of the large animal life on earth (including people) with our bombs.
Etc...
But on a positive note, we did not have rock and roll in 1916.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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in any case - it's unfortunate to see bernie endorse hilary ... it's almost like all that rhetoric was a marketing pitch ... that tweet from trump that likens his support to that of occupy supporting goldman sachs is spot on ...
Today, Bernie Sanders will be endorsing one of the most pro-war, pro-wall street, and pro-off shoring candidates in the history of the Democratic Party. The candidate who ran against special interests is endorsing the candidate who embodies special interests. The candidate who ran against TPP is endorsing the candidate who helped draft the TPP. The candidate who ran in opposition to globalization is running against the candidate who has led the push for globalization. The candidate who warned that open borders destroy the working class is endorsing the candidate with the most open borders policy in our history. The candidate who wants to reform H1-B visas is endorsing the candidate who supported lifting the caps on H1-B visas. The candidate who wants less war is endorsing the candidate who launched wars in Iraq and Libya and would lead us to a new war in Syria. The candidate who wants to get money out of politics is voting for the candidate who has made a career out of making money from politics.
Bernie's endorsement becomes Exhibit A in our rigged system - the Democrat Party is disenfranchising its voters to benefit the select and privileged few
But what can a poor boy do 'cept to play in a rock and roll band?
Well only this: Another horse goes lame in the middle of the stream? New horse! Bernie had his chance and now cast his lot with HRC. No use crying. Move on.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/dc489b00e6a543098f3a05b01f2fdd68/apnewsbreak-sanders-has-book-deal-will-reflect-campaign
Timing is everything in this game.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/donations-jill-stein-1000-sanders-clinton-endorsement/218447/
And you seriously think things are not better today? 100 years ago we were embroiled in a world war, the first of two that devastated the planet. The influenza epidemic just killed millions world wide. Polio devastated children. Blacks were under the yoke of Jim Crow. You call that a draw with today?
100 years ago we were not changing the climate (although the wheels were set in motion that way with the beginning of the industrial revolution).
Yes, some social issues have improved but others have degraded.
Epidemics occurred throughout history but today a massive pandemic looms on the horizon due to our over-use of antibiotics.
Though I do not cherish the thought, epidemics and infant mortality helped limit our population. Today we continue to breed like rabbits. The projected human population by 2050 is 9.7 billion the end of the century is 11.2 billion. It was a little less than 2.6 billion when I was born.
As far as I know and reasonably can assume, 100 years ago we did not consume more than the earth provided for us by August of each year (AKA earth overshoot day) as we do now.
100 years ago we could not annihilate all of the large animal life on earth (including people) with our bombs.
Etc...
But on a positive note, we did not have rock and roll in 1916.