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    pearljammr78pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    NSL said:
    SJ54844 said:
    NSL said:
    Dallas was great last night.  3rd show i've seen on this tour (Raleigh and Houston last year also).  
    Why would you spent that much to hear the same set list 3x?? I doubt tool will ever switch their set lists because they have bat shit crazy fans who over emphasize the experience. Drummer yah but that’s it. Maybe a little karma to Adam on the newest album too. 

    I'd gladly pay to hear that same setlist 4 times.  Thanks for your comment though
    Me too. That set list is perfection. Do I miss Third Eye and dream of 7empest. Yes but my jaw still hurts from dropping so hard during Tool’s whole set. 
    Peace,Love and Pearl Jam.
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    BIGDaddyWilBIGDaddyWil Michigan Posts: 3,040
    Grammy winners!
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    VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,924
    "Somebody get that Bob Marley wannabe motherfucker out of here!"
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 2,976
    Yeahhhh!
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    It's funny - where I used to turn to PJ, I now turn to Tool...I just relate to it more, lyrically, musically, tonally.  The whole goddamn package.

    They're my fucked up panacea.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,797
    hedonist said:
    It's funny - where I used to turn to PJ, I now turn to Tool...I just relate to it more, lyrically, musically, tonally.  The whole goddamn package.

    They're my fucked up panacea.
    they're my spiritual guide...     Lateralus is an out of mind /body tantric experience for me....
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,116
    hedonist said:
    It's funny - where I used to turn to PJ, I now turn to Tool...I just relate to it more, lyrically, musically, tonally.  The whole goddamn package.

    They're my fucked up panacea.

    Well... FI is incredible.

    Hopefully Giga is as well. But for me it's not off to a great start.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,797
    hedonist said:
    It's funny - where I used to turn to PJ, I now turn to Tool...I just relate to it more, lyrically, musically, tonally.  The whole goddamn package.

    They're my fucked up panacea.

    Well... FI is incredible.

    Hopefully Giga is as well. But for me it's not off to a great start.
    IDK...... its not backspacer or leftover backspacer.....so thats an improvement.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,495
    hedonist said:
    It's funny - where I used to turn to PJ, I now turn to Tool...I just relate to it more, lyrically, musically, tonally.  The whole goddamn package.

    They're my fucked up panacea.

    +1

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,797
    soooo 3 months later, my toolarmy shit has shipped......wtf
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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    Release EVRelease EV Posts: 2,001
    Tool in a few weeks in Melbourne, can't fn wait
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    JT167846JT167846 Posts: 820
    Tool in a few weeks in Melbourne, can't fn wait
    Hell yeah. I'm at the end of a six week trip around Asia and I get to come back to my cousin's wedding and the Auckland double header. Then Gigaton four weeks after that-life is exciting right now.
    Stars are suns to other people.

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    mickeyrat said:
    soooo 3 months later, my toolarmy shit has shipped......wtf
    Ask them for my sweatshirt I ordered 8 years ago.  I'm still an XL in case they ask...
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    redrawredraw Posts: 1,275
    Perth poster looks awesome!!! 
    Hope we get a good one in Brisbane on Thursday :prayer:
    Does anyone know what the deal is with the signed ones?? 
    Are they random or just pay extra like EV?? 
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    pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,883
    redraw said:
    Perth poster looks awesome!!! 
    Hope we get a good one in Brisbane on Thursday :prayer:
    Does anyone know what the deal is with the signed ones?? 
    Are they random or just pay extra like EV?? 
    For the US shows, the signed ones were sold at the same tables, just extra. Usually a lot more. I think $300 in DC. 
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
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    redrawredraw Posts: 1,275
    ^^
    Thanks for the info 
    Really looking forward to the gig!!! 
    If anyone is after a poster or merch from Aus just let me know - I'm happy to help out  =)
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    redraw said:
    ^^
    Thanks for the info 
    Really looking forward to the gig!!! 
    If anyone is after a poster or merch from Aus just let me know - I'm happy to help out  =)
    Get there early, like first person in line early if you want to guarantee getting a poster. The market for these things is insane right now.
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    maynardsuxmaynardsux Posts: 1,085
    redraw said:
    ^^
    Thanks for the info 
    Really looking forward to the gig!!! 
    If anyone is after a poster or merch from Aus just let me know - I'm happy to help out  =)
    Be interested in most any unsigned from the Australia run if you get one, especially a Chet Zar.....pm me and let me know, thanks!
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,412
    mickeyrat said:
    hedonist said:
    It's funny - where I used to turn to PJ, I now turn to Tool...I just relate to it more, lyrically, musically, tonally.  The whole goddamn package.

    They're my fucked up panacea.

    Well... FI is incredible.

    Hopefully Giga is as well. But for me it's not off to a great start.
    IDK...... its not backspacer or leftover backspacer.....so thats an improvement.

    Never thought it would be the case but so far the new PJ is more forward looking/thinking than either FI and 10k Days.
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    redraw said:
    Perth poster looks awesome!!! 
    Hope we get a good one in Brisbane on Thursday :prayer:
    Does anyone know what the deal is with the signed ones?? 
    Are they random or just pay extra like EV?? 
    Same design as the Barclays and San Diego, TN posters...  His horns are growing though.
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    Looking for help with tips on possibility of picking up a ticket (happy with any seat) for the show in Portland next month from a UK visitor who happens to be in town at the same time and isn't use to the US ticketing systems. Is stubhub a good/only option? Appreciate any advice.
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    tusevuntusevun Posts: 218
    edited February 2020
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    Looking for help with tips on possibility of picking up a ticket (happy with any seat) for the show in Portland next month from a UK visitor who happens to be in town at the same time and isn't use to the US ticketing systems. Is stubhub a good/only option? Appreciate any advice.

    Stubhub has a guarantee behind their tickets...there’s also the verified Ticketmaster resale tickets.

    Those are your safest bets, as far as not getting scammed.


    You're going to pay through the nose however... if you have the will power to hold out until the last minute, that will be your best bet of getting the least expensive ticket.

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    DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    hedonist said:
    It's funny - where I used to turn to PJ, I now turn to Tool...I just relate to it more, lyrically, musically, tonally.  The whole goddamn package.

    They're my fucked up panacea.

    Well... FI is incredible.

    Hopefully Giga is as well. But for me it's not off to a great start.
    IDK...... its not backspacer or leftover backspacer.....so thats an improvement.

    Never thought it would be the case but so far the new PJ is more forward looking/thinking than either FI and 10k Days.

    Super Blood Wolf Moon (which I haven't heard yet) must really be something, because I don't find Dance of the Clairvoyants half as interesting as anything from 10K Days or FI.

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,797
    DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    hedonist said:
    It's funny - where I used to turn to PJ, I now turn to Tool...I just relate to it more, lyrically, musically, tonally.  The whole goddamn package.

    They're my fucked up panacea.

    Well... FI is incredible.

    Hopefully Giga is as well. But for me it's not off to a great start.
    IDK...... its not backspacer or leftover backspacer.....so thats an improvement.

    Never thought it would be the case but so far the new PJ is more forward looking/thinking than either FI and 10k Days.

    Super Blood Wolf Moon (which I haven't heard yet) must really be something, because I don't find Dance of the Clairvoyants half as interesting as anything from 10K Days or FI.

    title is more interesting than the song...
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,412
    edited February 2020
    They’re not PJ’s best but at least they’re not 97% rehashes.


    Not trying to hate or say it’s terrible, there’s just nothing we haven’t already heard musically and despite being responsible for a lot of the new sounds on FI, there’s a real lack of MJK content. 
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,495
    edited February 2020
    DewieCox said:
    They’re not PJ’s best but at least they’re not 97% rehashes.


    Not trying to hate or say it’s terrible, there’s just nothing we haven’t already heard musically and despite being responsible for a lot of the new sounds on FI, there’s a real lack of MJK content. 

    You think Descending & Invincible are rehashes?

    Of what?

    Edit: I'm also curious as to what you thought on 10K was rehashed material. While it's my least favorite Tool album, it still has plenty of interesting stuff, and I thought Jambi, Rosetta Stoned, & Right in Two are as good as anything Tool has ever written. What other Tool songs do you hear when you listen to those?


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    mickeyrat said:
    DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    hedonist said:
    It's funny - where I used to turn to PJ, I now turn to Tool...I just relate to it more, lyrically, musically, tonally.  The whole goddamn package.

    They're my fucked up panacea.

    Well... FI is incredible.

    Hopefully Giga is as well. But for me it's not off to a great start.
    IDK...... its not backspacer or leftover backspacer.....so thats an improvement.

    Never thought it would be the case but so far the new PJ is more forward looking/thinking than either FI and 10k Days.

    Super Blood Wolf Moon (which I haven't heard yet) must really be something, because I don't find Dance of the Clairvoyants half as interesting as anything from 10K Days or FI.

    title is more interesting than the song...

    Man... you weren't kidding.
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,412
    DewieCox said:
    They’re not PJ’s best but at least they’re not 97% rehashes.


    Not trying to hate or say it’s terrible, there’s just nothing we haven’t already heard musically and despite being responsible for a lot of the new sounds on FI, there’s a real lack of MJK content. 

    You think Descending & Invincible are rehashes?

    Of what?

    Edit: I'm also curious as to what you thought on 10K was rehashed material. While it's my least favorite Tool album, it still has plenty of interesting stuff, and I thought Jambi, Rosetta Stoned, & Right in Two are as good as anything Tool has ever written. What other Tool songs do you hear when you listen to those?


    Invincible has tons of Rosetta Stoned, and the Jambi pull of think. Synth stuff is pretty fresh if you don’t listen to their life stuff. When it’s not that it’s the  drop d chug locking in and out of rhythm with the drums. 

    Descending, which is my favorite song on the album takes a lot from their cover of You Lied and segues into some pretty Wings For Marie territory. 

    Right In Two is the Salival version of Pushit altered very slightly, which actually harkens to the bridge of the album version. Has the wah sweep trick from 46 &2 which shows nip again a couple times on FI, but that’s admittedly gettin a bit picky with it. 


    Again, I dig all these songs to different extents l. There’s just nothing unexpected like with past albums.
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    DewieCox said:
    DewieCox said:
    They’re not PJ’s best but at least they’re not 97% rehashes.


    Not trying to hate or say it’s terrible, there’s just nothing we haven’t already heard musically and despite being responsible for a lot of the new sounds on FI, there’s a real lack of MJK content. 

    You think Descending & Invincible are rehashes?

    Of what?

    Edit: I'm also curious as to what you thought on 10K was rehashed material. While it's my least favorite Tool album, it still has plenty of interesting stuff, and I thought Jambi, Rosetta Stoned, & Right in Two are as good as anything Tool has ever written. What other Tool songs do you hear when you listen to those?


    Invincible has tons of Rosetta Stoned, and the Jambi pull of think. Synth stuff is pretty fresh if you don’t listen to their life stuff. When it’s not that it’s the  drop d chug locking in and out of rhythm with the drums. 

    Descending, which is my favorite song on the album takes a lot from their cover of You Lied and segues into some pretty Wings For Marie territory. 

    Right In Two is the Salival version of Pushit altered very slightly, which actually harkens to the bridge of the album version. Has the wah sweep trick from 46 &2 which shows nip again a couple times on FI, but that’s admittedly gettin a bit picky with it. 


    Again, I dig all these songs to different extents l. There’s just nothing unexpected like with past albums.

    I think that Right in Two comparison is a bit of a stretch, but hey.. it's all subjective, right?

    What about the rest of 10K Days?

    You said the last two albums were 97% rehashed, but you didn't say what feels rehashed about RS or Jambi, you only mentioned how you think they repeat elements or tricks from those songs in Invincible.

    I don't see how Jambi, or Wings for Marie* or Rosetta Stoned or really the rest of that album is a rehash of Tool's prior work.

    * I find Wings 1 & 2 boring AF, but to me they are anything but rehashed.


    IMO, most of what you say sounds a little picky, but maybe you just have a better ear / are more discerning of a listener than me. I think FI is fantastic... sure an occasional bass line or wah pedal sounds similar to other things they've done on past albums, but not so much to me that these don't sound like different tunes that hold up on their own.

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