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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    edited October 2019
    PJNB said:
    A couple of live debuts tonight. Putting it in the link to not spoil it for those that do not want to know. 10 songs 1hr 30 min set.

    https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/tool/2019/discovery-park-sacramento-ca-7b9daaa4.html
    I'm hoping that this was due to being a festival setlist. 7empest will get played live and everyone will cream themselves when it happens.

    Any word on the poster? And were there signed ones available?


    I'm much less confident than you are about 7empest being played live. I hope you're right, and I guess we'll find out in a few days.

    Why? Nothing they play is that difficult once you get the feel down and I think they’re well past that. Danny can do most of the new album in his sleep and they’ve tackled hairier material in the past. 
  • scurtisscurtis Posts: 2,460
    pjl44 said:
    scurtis said:
    Is the CD with the screen worth the big bucks?
    40ish bucks retail? Yes.
    100ish bucks secondary? No.
    I found a retailer with a few left so maybe I will pull the trigger
    "Born on third, thinks he got a triple."
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,061
    Even for $100.00, it's pretty cool. There really is nothing else like it from any other band. 
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  • JT167846JT167846 Posts: 936
    DewieCox said:
    PJNB said:
    A couple of live debuts tonight. Putting it in the link to not spoil it for those that do not want to know. 10 songs 1hr 30 min set.

    https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/tool/2019/discovery-park-sacramento-ca-7b9daaa4.html
    I'm hoping that this was due to being a festival setlist. 7empest will get played live and everyone will cream themselves when it happens.

    Any word on the poster? And were there signed ones available?


    I'm much less confident than you are about 7empest being played live. I hope you're right, and I guess we'll find out in a few days.

    Why? Nothing they play is that difficult once you get the feel down and I think they’re well past that. Danny can do most of the new album in his sleep and they’ve tackled hairier material in the past. 
    Depends what instrument. The guitar parts are the simplest (think the big thing in 7empest is there being different guitar parts going at the same time on occasion and Adam needing to choose what parts to play/mix together. Justin is pretty innovative but it's his tone to me that would be the hardest thing to replicate. As for nothing Danny plays being that difficult, I respectfully disagree-even if you're only talking about the drumming on Fear Inoculum. There are several reasons he's regarded as the best drummer on the planet and there are a couple of examples on the new album that reinforce that. Rosetta Stoned and Ticks remain his tours de force but I'm picking up new things I like on the album every day and that definitely includes Danny's work.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    JT167846 said:
    DewieCox said:
    PJNB said:
    A couple of live debuts tonight. Putting it in the link to not spoil it for those that do not want to know. 10 songs 1hr 30 min set.

    https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/tool/2019/discovery-park-sacramento-ca-7b9daaa4.html
    I'm hoping that this was due to being a festival setlist. 7empest will get played live and everyone will cream themselves when it happens.

    Any word on the poster? And were there signed ones available?


    I'm much less confident than you are about 7empest being played live. I hope you're right, and I guess we'll find out in a few days.

    Why? Nothing they play is that difficult once you get the feel down and I think they’re well past that. Danny can do most of the new album in his sleep and they’ve tackled hairier material in the past. 
    Depends what instrument. The guitar parts are the simplest (think the big thing in 7empest is there being different guitar parts going at the same time on occasion and Adam needing to choose what parts to play/mix together. Justin is pretty innovative but it's his tone to me that would be the hardest thing to replicate. As for nothing Danny plays being that difficult, I respectfully disagree-even if you're only talking about the drumming on Fear Inoculum. There are several reasons he's regarded as the best drummer on the planet and there are a couple of examples on the new album that reinforce that. Rosetta Stoned and Ticks remain his tours de force but I'm picking up new things I like on the album every day and that definitely includes Danny's work.
    No doubt, I just meant you can count on Carey be there rhythmically and through the most difficult passages. That’s a huge stress relief playing this type of material.  A lot of the stuff on bass and guitar you just have to put your head down until it just clicks. They make their money in the rehearsal room, honing arrangements and getting everything locked in. 

    I was just stating that there’s nothing any more  complex on FI than stuff they’ve played in the past. 
  • JT167846JT167846 Posts: 936
    I gotcha mate. I'm a guitar hack (travel too much for it to be anything more than an occasional hobby) and aside from effects I can do half arsed jobs of most of Adam's stuff. Tool is still fun as to play especially when you go out of time and come back in time with the other instruments and playing along to their cataclysmic crescendi. Yeah I'd say it's not as much of a drum wank as some other albums-seems his showcases are going out of sync with the others instead of solos/bridges. I like how Fear Inoculum goes into a gallop in 11 but the bit after it is quite tricky to get. I did see a drum cover of Pneuma which made me rethink how impressive the drum parts were.

    Moral of the story is I want to play drums like Danny. Sorry Matt.
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  • chittychitty Posts: 609
    chitty said:
    I am travelling to the festival tomorrow that has Tool headlining sunday. Hoping to hear a bunch of the new stuff and a few old hits. It's a pretty short set though so not sure what they can do for the new album with each song being so long....I guess time will tell
    The show was typcial Tool which is to say, it was awesome. They played from 725-850 so about 1:25. Had time for another song I thought befor a very early 9pm curfew. Anyways Invincible, my fav from FI, was epic and Pneuma as they closer was perfect. I figure a non festival show they will play one more FI song and one or two more old hits
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    DewieCox said:
    PJNB said:
    A couple of live debuts tonight. Putting it in the link to not spoil it for those that do not want to know. 10 songs 1hr 30 min set.

    https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/tool/2019/discovery-park-sacramento-ca-7b9daaa4.html
    I'm hoping that this was due to being a festival setlist. 7empest will get played live and everyone will cream themselves when it happens.

    Any word on the poster? And were there signed ones available?


    I'm much less confident than you are about 7empest being played live. I hope you're right, and I guess we'll find out in a few days.

    Why? Nothing they play is that difficult once you get the feel down and I think they’re well past that. Danny can do most of the new album in his sleep and they’ve tackled hairier material in the past. 

    It has nothing to do with the difficulty of the song, and everything to do with the length. I expect Descending to get added to the Aftershock setlist, and maybe CC Trip. That will get them closer to the usual 1:45-1:50 they normally play in a 2 hour set. I have no inside knowledge, it’s just my gut feeling. 

    I hope I’m wrong, I would love to see it played live next month. 


    Side note: I would love to see Part of Me next month. In a dozen shows over a 22 year span, I have yet to hear that live. 

  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,435
    chitty said:
    chitty said:
    I am travelling to the festival tomorrow that has Tool headlining sunday. Hoping to hear a bunch of the new stuff and a few old hits. It's a pretty short set though so not sure what they can do for the new album with each song being so long....I guess time will tell
    The show was typcial Tool which is to say, it was awesome. They played from 725-850 so about 1:25. Had time for another song I thought befor a very early 9pm curfew. Anyways Invincible, my fav from FI, was epic and Pneuma as they closer was perfect. I figure a non festival show they will play one more FI song and one or two more old hits
    Glad you enjoyed it. I am most hyped to hear Pneuma. How did it sound?
  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,572
    edited October 2019
    chitty said:
    chitty said:
    I am travelling to the festival tomorrow that has Tool headlining sunday. Hoping to hear a bunch of the new stuff and a few old hits. It's a pretty short set though so not sure what they can do for the new album with each song being so long....I guess time will tell
    The show was typcial Tool which is to say, it was awesome. They played from 725-850 so about 1:25. Had time for another song I thought befor a very early 9pm curfew. Anyways Invincible, my fav from FI, was epic and Pneuma as they closer was perfect. I figure a non festival show they will play one more FI song and one or two more old hits
    I thought they could have dropped either The Pot or Jambi to play another new track. I understand why they dropped Schism since it has a similar progression to Pneuma. It'll be interesting to see if they continue to keep Schism off the setlist. I find it hilarious that the band before Tool on the main stage, A Day To Remember, played a snippet of Schism acoustic and then said they didn't want to spoil it because Tool would probably play it later. And then they didn't. lol

    All in all, can't complain. We got Part of Me and three new tracks. The visuals on all three were incredible. I still get goose bumps thinking of how Pneuma looked and sounded. It was a great closer.
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  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Posts: 9,897
    Happy to see Tool no cell phone policy still being used. Much more fun watching a show with my own eyes rather than through someone's screen. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    chitty said:
    chitty said:
    I am travelling to the festival tomorrow that has Tool headlining sunday. Hoping to hear a bunch of the new stuff and a few old hits. It's a pretty short set though so not sure what they can do for the new album with each song being so long....I guess time will tell
    The show was typcial Tool which is to say, it was awesome. They played from 725-850 so about 1:25. Had time for another song I thought befor a very early 9pm curfew. Anyways Invincible, my fav from FI, was epic and Pneuma as they closer was perfect. I figure a non festival show they will play one more FI song and one or two more old hits
    I thought they could have dropped either The Pot or Jambi to play another new track. I understand why they dropped Schism since it has a similar progression to Pneuma. It'll be interesting to see if they continue to keep Schism off the setlist. I find it hilarious that the band before Tool on the main stage, A Day To Remember, played a snippet of Schism acoustic and then said they didn't want to spoil it because Tool would probably play it later. And then they didn't. lol

    All in all, can't complain. We got Part of Me and three new tracks. The visuals on all three were incredible. I still get goose bumps thinking of how Pneuma looked and sounded. It was a great closer.
    I’m thinking the Pot may rotate w/ 1 or 2 other songs depending on the night. I would love if they kept Intolerance in the rotation, that’s another one I have yet to hear live... probably my white whale at this point. 
  • They played CCT at Governors ball but I thought it was an intermission song?!?

    I would love to hear Prison Sex.  That was the song that drew me to them, maybe one day?

    Intolerance would be another one I'd like to hear along w Right in 2 and Rosetta.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,637
    Happy to see Tool no cell phone policy still being used. Much more fun watching a show with my own eyes rather than through someone's screen. 

    What I dont get  is people watch the  show thru their cellphones but dont zoom in.

    So instead of seeing the band THIS big (holding palms two feet apart) they see the band thru their phone this big (forefinger and thumb an inch apart).
    .


  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,572
    Happy to see Tool no cell phone policy still being used. Much more fun watching a show with my own eyes rather than through someone's screen. 
    It wasn't in effect at Aftershock. Impossible to enforce with that many people.
  • chittychitty Posts: 609
    edited October 2019
    PJNB said:
    chitty said:
    chitty said:
    I am travelling to the festival tomorrow that has Tool headlining sunday. Hoping to hear a bunch of the new stuff and a few old hits. It's a pretty short set though so not sure what they can do for the new album with each song being so long....I guess time will tell
    The show was typcial Tool which is to say, it was awesome. They played from 725-850 so about 1:25. Had time for another song I thought befor a very early 9pm curfew. Anyways Invincible, my fav from FI, was epic and Pneuma as they closer was perfect. I figure a non festival show they will play one more FI song and one or two more old hits
    Glad you enjoyed it. I am most hyped to hear Pneuma. How did it sound?
    As darthvedder said, it was the perfect closer and I suspect it’ll stay in that spot. The visuals were perfect and for me the outdoor festival crowd took this show to another level. Probably the strangers I were around helped in the sense we were all really into the music and the new songs had awesome reception. I was about 1/3 back from the front In the middle of a massive crowd which probably meant I had perfect sound for the show. I think I was smart by walking to the back of the crowd for Korn’s last song and then fast walking over to the Tool stage before a lot of people 
    Post edited by chitty on
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,441
    Right in two tonight 
  • manitoumanmanitouman Posts: 1,085
    nicknyr15 said:
    Right in two tonight 
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  • given2fly23given2fly23 Posts: 5,902
    edited October 2019
    I think that was a mistake/prank
    Post edited by given2fly23 on
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  • given2fly23given2fly23 Posts: 5,902
    Denver - FINAL SETLIST 

    Fear Inoculum
    Ænema
    The Pot
    Parabol/la
    Pneuma
    Schism
    Jambi
    Vicarious
    Intolerance
    Forty Six & 2 
    CCTrip
    Invincible 
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,435
    I got to say I am a bit disappointed from that set on paper after seeing the festival set a couple of days ago. I was hoping for more FI songs. Here is to hoping they add more as the tour goes on. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    PJNB said:
    I got to say I am a bit disappointed from that set on paper after seeing the festival set a couple of days ago. I was hoping for more FI songs. Here is to hoping they add more as the tour goes on. 
    Same... I can’t believe Descending isn’t in there. 

    Granted, it’s still 5 songs I’ve never heard played live before (including the Pot & Intolerance) but this setlist is definitely underwhelming. 
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,441
    I think that was a mistake/prank
    Yea. That sucks 
  • LCLC Posts: 279
    Pneuma and Schism sound so similar IMO...I'm surprised they played them back to back.
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  • Denver - FINAL SETLIST 

    Fear Inoculum
    Ænema
    The Pot
    Parabol/la
    Pneuma
    Schism
    Jambi
    Vicarious
    Intolerance
    Forty Six & 2 
    CCTrip
    Invincible 
    Stinkfist
    Pneuma and Schism back to back would make me very happy
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  • Am I the only 1 that finds CCT annoying?
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,435
    Am I the only 1 that finds CCT annoying?
    It is a skippable song for me though seeing it live was really cool. Not sure I need to see it live again though. 
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,441
    Am I the only 1 that finds CCT annoying?
    I’m a drummer, I find it extremely annoying because Of the synth sequence. I wish i could edit it out because the actual drum solo is awesome and sounds incredible. B
  • nicknyr15 said:
    Am I the only 1 that finds CCT annoying?
    I’m a drummer, I find it extremely annoying because Of the synth sequence. I wish i could edit it out because the actual drum solo is awesome and sounds incredible. B
    I agree with you.
  • Am I the only 1 that finds CCT annoying?
    I love that track.
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