Let Danny just drum and I like it. Not seeing a Love for it though...
Don't mind it on the CD, but live I'd rather them play another song than an instrumental track.
It reminds me of something Trent Reznor would do in the early 90's.
It's as if Aphex Twin tapped Danny Carey to do real drums instead of a machine - I think it's pretty sick.
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So second show of the tour tonight i Salt Lake City. Are we in for any surprises or is it going to he copy and paste from Denver? On a side not what a terrible name for an arena. Vivint Smart Home Arena....
3rd show of tour. Denver was 2 nights. Yes, I hope they start pulling more from FI and back catalog. Just play Hooker with a Penis, H or Eulogy and I'll be happy.
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If they play +/- 15 songs a show, you have to think that they only have something like a 20 song rotation for this tour considering the synchronization of their visuals and their songs. It really cements the fact that PJ is the only band that I'll see back to back when multiple shows are in the same venue. The Foo Fighters fall in the same category. Awesome live show but not worth a back to back.
If they play +/- 15 songs a show, you have to think that they only have something like a 20 song rotation for this tour considering the synchronization of their visuals and their songs. It really cements the fact that PJ is the only band that I'll see back to back when multiple shows are in the same venue. The Foo Fighters fall in the same category. Awesome live show but not worth a back to back.
DMB. Multiple nights, same venue definitely worth it. Different every time. And awesome every time.
The setlists so far are ehhh. Should be illegal to play multiple nights at the same venue and not change sets. 15-20 song rotation could have five different songs the next night and change the order. The lights can change. Sure the setup is loaded for all songs in rotation. I don’t know. PJ just spoils us when they tour. You never know what’s coming.
I was hoping they'd reboot the live show with a new record finally out. From what I'm reading, pretty much the usual deal with some new songs?
If they follow past touring cycles after releasing new albums, they will have another tour next year where they work more new songs into the set. I remember not hearing Right In Two until the second tour after 10,000 Days came out.
DMB. Multiple nights, same venue definitely worth it. Different every time. And awesome every time.
The setlists so far are ehhh. Should be illegal to play multiple nights at the same venue and not change sets. 15-20 song rotation could have five different songs the next night and change the order. The lights can change. Sure the setup is loaded for all songs in rotation. I don’t know. PJ just spoils us when they tour. You never know what’s coming.
Tool doesn’t use totally preprogrammed lighting and video.
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If they play +/- 15 songs a show, you have to think that they only have something like a 20 song rotation for this tour considering the synchronization of their visuals and their songs. It really cements the fact that PJ is the only band that I'll see back to back when multiple shows are in the same venue. The Foo Fighters fall in the same category. Awesome live show but not worth a back to back.
Radiohead did b2b nights in Boston July of ‘18, and played 25 songs each night w/ only 5 repeats.
(Apropos of nothing, that 2 night stint will go down as a top ten concert moment for me, it was amazing)
I was hoping they'd reboot the live show with a new record finally out. From what I'm reading, pretty much the usual deal with some new songs?
If they follow past touring cycles after releasing new albums, they will have another tour next year where they work more new songs into the set. I remember not hearing Right In Two until the second tour after 10,000 Days came out.
The new songs would be great, but I was hoping for a new stage show too. $200+ for a couple new songs with some new visuals is looking pretty whatever right now.
If they play +/- 15 songs a show, you have to think that they only have something like a 20 song rotation for this tour considering the synchronization of their visuals and their songs. It really cements the fact that PJ is the only band that I'll see back to back when multiple shows are in the same venue. The Foo Fighters fall in the same category. Awesome live show but not worth a back to back.
Radiohead did b2b nights in Boston July of ‘18, and played 25 songs each night w/ only 5 repeats.
(Apropos of nothing, that 2 night stint will go down as a top ten concert moment for me, it was amazing)
Fair enough. I wasn't by any means saying that only PJ mixes their setlists up. Just implying that a lot of major acts copy and paste their setlists. If the formula works roll with it.
DMB. Multiple nights, same venue definitely worth it. Different every time. And awesome every time.
The setlists so far are ehhh. Should be illegal to play multiple nights at the same venue and not change sets. 15-20 song rotation could have five different songs the next night and change the order. The lights can change. Sure the setup is loaded for all songs in rotation. I don’t know. PJ just spoils us when they tour. You never know what’s coming.
Yeah I get why some bands play the same setlist each night but when you play the same venue it's really lame to repeat everything.
Honestly that is what turned me off from the Foo Fighters. A year or so ago I saw them at the beginning of their tour and near the end and they played basically the same set list....even had the same jokes and stage banter inserted for the middle of the show where they each get introduced and do their own selected cover song. That was really disappointing.
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DMB. Multiple nights, same venue definitely worth it. Different every time. And awesome every time.
The setlists so far are ehhh. Should be illegal to play multiple nights at the same venue and not change sets. 15-20 song rotation could have five different songs the next night and change the order. The lights can change. Sure the setup is loaded for all songs in rotation. I don’t know. PJ just spoils us when they tour. You never know what’s coming.
Yeah I get why some bands play the same setlist each night but when you play the same venue it's really lame to repeat everything.
Honestly that is what turned me off from the Foo Fighters. A year or so ago I saw them at the beginning of their tour and near the end and they played basically the same set list....even had the same jokes and stage banter inserted for the middle of the show where they each get introduced and do their own selected cover song. That was really disappointing.
DMB. Multiple nights, same venue definitely worth it. Different every time. And awesome every time.
The setlists so far are ehhh. Should be illegal to play multiple nights at the same venue and not change sets. 15-20 song rotation could have five different songs the next night and change the order. The lights can change. Sure the setup is loaded for all songs in rotation. I don’t know. PJ just spoils us when they tour. You never know what’s coming.
Yeah I get why some bands play the same setlist each night but when you play the same venue it's really lame to repeat everything.
Honestly that is what turned me off from the Foo Fighters. A year or so ago I saw them at the beginning of their tour and near the end and they played basically the same set list....even had the same jokes and stage banter inserted for the middle of the show where they each get introduced and do their own selected cover song. That was really disappointing.
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I saw them for the first time this year. Good show but having Eddie come out and fight is kinda lame. I'm too old for that shit.
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DMB. Multiple nights, same venue definitely worth it. Different every time. And awesome every time.
The setlists so far are ehhh. Should be illegal to play multiple nights at the same venue and not change sets. 15-20 song rotation could have five different songs the next night and change the order. The lights can change. Sure the setup is loaded for all songs in rotation. I don’t know. PJ just spoils us when they tour. You never know what’s coming.
Yeah I get why some bands play the same setlist each night but when you play the same venue it's really lame to repeat everything.
Honestly that is what turned me off from the Foo Fighters. A year or so ago I saw them at the beginning of their tour and near the end and they played basically the same set list....even had the same jokes and stage banter inserted for the middle of the show where they each get introduced and do their own selected cover song. That was really disappointing.
Welcome to the land of Iron Maiden...
I saw them for the first time this year. Good show but having Eddie come out and fight is kinda lame. I'm too old for that shit.
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DMB. Multiple nights, same venue definitely worth it. Different every time. And awesome every time.
The setlists so far are ehhh. Should be illegal to play multiple nights at the same venue and not change sets. 15-20 song rotation could have five different songs the next night and change the order. The lights can change. Sure the setup is loaded for all songs in rotation. I don’t know. PJ just spoils us when they tour. You never know what’s coming.
Tool doesn’t use totally preprogrammed lighting and video.
That makes it even worse then. I would understand if the show was preprogrammed. Switch up the sets for gods sake.
Not impressed with the setlists but damn those foil posters from Staples Center are fucking awesome!! I like the creepiness of night one more than night 2.
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Not impressed with the setlists but damn those foil posters from Staples Center are fucking awesome!! I like the creepiness of night one more than night 2.
I'm hoping to score a signed one this time around at the show.
DMB. Multiple nights, same venue definitely worth it. Different every time. And awesome every time.
The setlists so far are ehhh. Should be illegal to play multiple nights at the same venue and not change sets. 15-20 song rotation could have five different songs the next night and change the order. The lights can change. Sure the setup is loaded for all songs in rotation. I don’t know. PJ just spoils us when they tour. You never know what’s coming.
Tool doesn’t use totally preprogrammed lighting and video.
That makes it even worse then. I would understand if the show was preprogrammed. Switch up the sets for gods sake.
I recall Rush used to warm up individually for 4 weeks then they together would rehearse for nearly another month before starting a tour.
I think Tool's music is closer to Rush than PJ. There's no way some bands can just whip out an old song on the fly or switch one in without rehearsing it many many times. It's just not realistic. Those Tool polyrhythms are intense. I can hear them struggle to get Pnuema right. But I agree they could have prepared a couple extra songs to swipe out. Hopefully next leg.
My complaint wouldn't be the Tool setlist is the same each night this tour except the 1 song. Its that the current set is too similar to their last tour in 2017.
I am just saying at least change the order of the songs. And if your going to be able to play two shows at the same venue then mix it up more than one song a night.
That being said, my good friend went to see them last night in LA and said it was a great show. So that’s always good to hear.
DMB. Multiple nights, same venue definitely worth it. Different every time. And awesome every time.
The setlists so far are ehhh. Should be illegal to play multiple nights at the same venue and not change sets. 15-20 song rotation could have five different songs the next night and change the order. The lights can change. Sure the setup is loaded for all songs in rotation. I don’t know. PJ just spoils us when they tour. You never know what’s coming.
Tool doesn’t use totally preprogrammed lighting and video.
That makes it even worse then. I would understand if the show was preprogrammed. Switch up the sets for gods sake.
I recall Rush used to warm up individually for 4 weeks then they together would rehearse for nearly another month before starting a tour.
I think Tool's music is closer to Rush than PJ. There's no way some bands can just whip out an old song on the fly or switch one in without rehearsing it many many times. It's just not realistic. Those Tool polyrhythms are intense. I can hear them struggle to get Pnuema right. But I agree they could have prepared a couple extra songs to swipe out. Hopefully next leg.
My complaint wouldn't be the Tool setlist is the same each night this tour except the 1 song. Its that the current set is too similar to their last tour in 2017.
Ament was interviewed about the setlist(or was it McCready?) changing nightly and they said that sometimes you have to practice a few minutes to remember the song considering that we have a 250 song catalog.
They are professionals, they can change it up if they want to.
DMB. Multiple nights, same venue definitely worth it. Different every time. And awesome every time.
The setlists so far are ehhh. Should be illegal to play multiple nights at the same venue and not change sets. 15-20 song rotation could have five different songs the next night and change the order. The lights can change. Sure the setup is loaded for all songs in rotation. I don’t know. PJ just spoils us when they tour. You never know what’s coming.
Tool doesn’t use totally preprogrammed lighting and video.
That makes it even worse then. I would understand if the show was preprogrammed. Switch up the sets for gods sake.
I recall Rush used to warm up individually for 4 weeks then they together would rehearse for nearly another month before starting a tour.
I think Tool's music is closer to Rush than PJ. There's no way some bands can just whip out an old song on the fly or switch one in without rehearsing it many many times. It's just not realistic. Those Tool polyrhythms are intense. I can hear them struggle to get Pnuema right. But I agree they could have prepared a couple extra songs to swipe out. Hopefully next leg.
My complaint wouldn't be the Tool setlist is the same each night this tour except the 1 song. Its that the current set is too similar to their last tour in 2017.
Ament was interviewed about the setlist(or was it McCready?) changing nightly and they said that sometimes you have to practice a few minutes to remember the song considering that we have a 250 song catalog.
They are professionals, they can change it up if they want to.
I agree. I’m not looking for a completely different set but There should be at least 4-6 rotation spots. And even worse imo, is that spot. Part of me is just not a good song. There are so many great songs off Undertow that they could rotate in that spot.
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Yes, I hope they start pulling more from FI and back catalog. Just play Hooker with a Penis, H or Eulogy and I'll be happy.
(Apropos of nothing, that 2 night stint will go down as a top ten concert moment for me, it was amazing)
Honestly that is what turned me off from the Foo Fighters. A year or so ago I saw them at the beginning of their tour and near the end and they played basically the same set list....even had the same jokes and stage banter inserted for the middle of the show where they each get introduced and do their own selected cover song. That was really disappointing.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
The way this line is sung is my favorite on the whole album and he does it 3 different ways on the song Descending.
This song is becoming my rabbit hole for exploration.
Still can't enjoy Pnuema though...
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I recall Rush used to warm up individually for 4 weeks then they together would rehearse for nearly another month before starting a tour.
I think Tool's music is closer to Rush than PJ. There's no way some bands can just whip out an old song on the fly or switch one in without rehearsing it many many times. It's just not realistic. Those Tool polyrhythms are intense. I can hear them struggle to get Pnuema right. But I agree they could have prepared a couple extra songs to swipe out. Hopefully next leg.
My complaint wouldn't be the Tool setlist is the same each night this tour except the 1 song. Its that the current set is too similar to their last tour in 2017.
They are professionals, they can change it up if they want to.