Schools must allow transgender bathrooms, Department of Education says

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    you guy's are o.k with obama acting as dictator and forcing in a new law .......let me guess.

    Godfather.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,681
    Godfather. said:

    you guy's are o.k with obama acting as dictator and forcing in a new law .......let me guess.

    Godfather.

    Do you know what a transgender actually is ?
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    the people opposed to this are the same ones who want "creationism" to be taught as part of the curriculum. i'm looking at you texas.

    teaching religion in schools to me is a far greater concern than having to make a unisex bathroom.

    Some of us who oppose this are concerned about safe spaces for women and previous female victims of sexual assault who see any encroachment on their space as a violation. To be clear transgendered are not predators but safe spaces for women should be respected. You either believe in this concept or you don't.
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    BS44325 said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    the people opposed to this are the same ones who want "creationism" to be taught as part of the curriculum. i'm looking at you texas.

    teaching religion in schools to me is a far greater concern than having to make a unisex bathroom.

    Some of us who oppose this are concerned about safe spaces for women and previous female victims of sexual assault who see any encroachment on their space as a violation. To be clear transgendered are not predators but safe spaces for women should be respected. You either believe in this concept or you don't.
    Is any public area considered a 'safe' space?

  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    eddiec said:

    BS44325 said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    the people opposed to this are the same ones who want "creationism" to be taught as part of the curriculum. i'm looking at you texas.

    teaching religion in schools to me is a far greater concern than having to make a unisex bathroom.

    Some of us who oppose this are concerned about safe spaces for women and previous female victims of sexual assault who see any encroachment on their space as a violation. To be clear transgendered are not predators but safe spaces for women should be respected. You either believe in this concept or you don't.
    Is any public area considered a 'safe' space?

    No.
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    I don't oppose or support this. As an educator, I just see it as another distraction. In my school of 1200 students, zero are transgender . . . in all my years of teaching, zero. I've had one student in 23 years who had one parent transition. That's it, out of thousands and thousands of students' parents. This is just a whole lot of hoopla over a small, small, small group of students where a local decision could solve it. Making it a federal issue just raises a whole lot of fury that in my view distracts from the central mission of schools. When I talk to kids about it, I get eye rolls. The kids see the adults, again, getting tied up in a knot over an issue that does not impact them in the least, especially not in a way that will improve their access to a quality education.

    Do I deny that the less than 1% of transgendered teenagers need a place to pee? No. Simple: give them access to the private bathrooms that do exist already in school buildings. End of story. Quit making it a problem for everyone else in the school. We're busy learning how to read and write.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    what dreams said:

    I don't oppose or support this. As an educator, I just see it as another distraction. In my school of 1200 students, zero are transgender . . . in all my years of teaching, zero. I've had one student in 23 years who had one parent transition. That's it, out of thousands and thousands of students' parents. This is just a whole lot of hoopla over a small, small, small group of students where a local decision could solve it. Making it a federal issue just raises a whole lot of fury that in my view distracts from the central mission of schools. When I talk to kids about it, I get eye rolls. The kids see the adults, again, getting tied up in a knot over an issue that does not impact them in the least, especially not in a way that will improve their access to a quality education.

    Do I deny that the less than 1% of transgendered teenagers need a place to pee? No. Simple: give them access to the private bathrooms that do exist already in school buildings. End of story. Quit making it a problem for everyone else in the school. We're busy learning how to read and write.

    This is so obviously the reality. It is amazing that this is being made into a larger issue.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Godfather. said:

    you guy's are o.k with obama acting as dictator and forcing in a new law .......let me guess.

    Godfather.

    What ultimately is the job of the president? To enforce laws. Is says that in the Constitution. If a state doesn't want to follow federal law, then the president is within his authority to with hold federal funding. It's really that simple.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,812
    what dreams said:

    I don't oppose or support this. As an educator, I just see it as another distraction. In my school of 1200 students, zero are transgender . . . in all my years of teaching, zero. I've had one student in 23 years who had one parent transition. That's it, out of thousands and thousands of students' parents. This is just a whole lot of hoopla over a small, small, small group of students where a local decision could solve it. Making it a federal issue just raises a whole lot of fury that in my view distracts from the central mission of schools. When I talk to kids about it, I get eye rolls. The kids see the adults, again, getting tied up in a knot over an issue that does not impact them in the least, especially not in a way that will improve their access to a quality education.

    Do I deny that the less than 1% of transgendered teenagers need a place to pee? No. Simple: give them access to the private bathrooms that do exist already in school buildings. End of story. Quit making it a problem for everyone else in the school. We're busy learning how to read and write.

    Holy crap....... Finally, a voice of reason amongst all of this bullshit.

    Thank you. I wish more people thought like you.
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    Can I just add that I am always disturbed when the 1% dictate what happens to the 99%. No matter who the 1% is
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Degeneratefk said:

    Godfather. said:

    you guy's are o.k with obama acting as dictator and forcing in a new law .......let me guess.

    Godfather.

    What ultimately is the job of the president? To enforce laws. Is says that in the Constitution. If a state doesn't want to follow federal law, then the president is within his authority to with hold federal funding. It's really that simple.
    Yes but the question is what qualifies as a federal law? This is clearly a matter for the states. It's really that simple.
  • EM194007
    EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    Degeneratefk said:



    What ultimately is the job of the president? To enforce laws. Is says that in the Constitution. If a state doesn't want to follow federal law, then the president is within his authority to with hold federal funding. It's really that simple.

    Can you please post said Federal Bill/Law. Not what the Obama admin did in 2014 and took it upon their self to add guidelines issued by the U.S. Department of Education. Which isn't 100% legal, only Congress can change the law.

    When did guidelines become law?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    BS44325 said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    the people opposed to this are the same ones who want "creationism" to be taught as part of the curriculum. i'm looking at you texas.

    teaching religion in schools to me is a far greater concern than having to make a unisex bathroom.

    Some of us who oppose this are concerned about safe spaces for women and previous female victims of sexual assault who see any encroachment on their space as a violation. To be clear transgendered are not predators but safe spaces for women should be respected. You either believe in this concept or you don't.
    oh please, spare us all this bullshit about republicans believing that "safe spaces for women must be respected."

    you guys are already inside the woman's vagina with your party platform.

    this is the party that opposes equal pay for women. they oppose paid family leave and maternity leave. they oppose birth control, as well as obamacare and planned parenthood that provides contraception. they oppose abortion, even in the case of rape and incest. AND they oppose gay rights. this is just an extension of that opposition. so please, spare us the line about republicans caring about women and respecting them. this is about discrimination, and about republicans playing the victim card.

    they are incapable of leading, so playing victim is all they have left.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    what dreams said:

    Can I just add that I am always disturbed when the 1% dictate what happens to the 99%. No matter who the 1% is

    That's a fked up position.

    And as you see empirically, there wasn't a problem before, so you should have an opinion about this total waste of time and energy.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    image

    show all of us, on this doll, exactly where obama hurt you.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Funny
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,812
    gimmesometruth27 said:



    you guys are already inside the woman's vagina with your party platform.

    Well played.
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    callen said:

    what dreams said:

    Can I just add that I am always disturbed when the 1% dictate what happens to the 99%. No matter who the 1% is

    That's a fked up position.

    And as you see empirically, there wasn't a problem before, so you should have an opinion about this total waste of time and energy.
    Huh? You lost me. Can you please rephrase the second paragraph so I can understand whatever fked up thought you are trying to share with me?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited May 2016
    Is anyone else getting tired of this topic being a topic all of a sudden?
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    BS44325 said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    the people opposed to this are the same ones who want "creationism" to be taught as part of the curriculum. i'm looking at you texas.

    teaching religion in schools to me is a far greater concern than having to make a unisex bathroom.

    Some of us who oppose this are concerned about safe spaces for women and previous female victims of sexual assault who see any encroachment on their space as a violation. To be clear transgendered are not predators but safe spaces for women should be respected. You either believe in this concept or you don't.
    oh please, spare us all this bullshit about republicans believing that "safe spaces for women must be respected."

    you guys are already inside the woman's vagina with your party platform.

    this is the party that opposes equal pay for women. they oppose paid family leave and maternity leave. they oppose birth control, as well as obamacare and planned parenthood that provides contraception. they oppose abortion, even in the case of rape and incest. AND they oppose gay rights. this is just an extension of that opposition. so please, spare us the line about republicans caring about women and respecting them. this is about discrimination, and about republicans playing the victim card.

    they are incapable of leading, so playing victim is all they have left.
    Nope. This is a woman's rights issue.

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