Pearl Jam Mailed It In On Monday Night

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mrpink90 said:

deweil said:

mrpink90 said:

they didnt mail it in. but i agree with everything else. their setlists are more "predictable" than theyve ever been. i felt that way in 2013 with the 4 show run in philly and brooklyn. there were alot of repeats. it was the first time i could ever predict what was coming next.

I disagree with 2013 assessment - i was there and they played 83 different songs across 4 nights/2 cities. I felt there were a lot more surprises then - a lot more repeats this time around.

brooklyn 2 and philly 2 were very similar shows in 2013. i had ga for both shows so i was going nuts for both and had the time of my life, but during philly 2 i remember telling my wife i feel like we just saw this show from the same spot in brooklyn,

Yes I was at B2 and P2 as well and not only were the repeats the most I'd ever seen. at least twenty but the songs were in the same order as well. The order really stood out to me because i predicted several times what the next song would be. I still loved both shows though.

jordn6971

I agree with the OP. The band used to mix up their setlists much better. Columvia was the only show only saw this tour and it was the worst I have seen in 40+ show.

whofeelslikeadrank

jordn6971 said:

I agree with the OP. The band used to mix up their setlists much better. Columvia was the only show only saw this tour and it was the worst I have seen in 40+ show.

jordn6971

whofeelslikeadrank said:

jordn6971 said:

I agree with the OP. The band used to mix up their setlists much better. Columvia was the only show only saw this tour and it was the worst I have seen in 40+ show.

So you have something to add?

lolobugg

jordn6971 said:

whofeelslikeadrank said:

jordn6971 said:

I agree with the OP. The band used to mix up their setlists much better. Columvia was the only show only saw this tour and it was the worst I have seen in 40+ show.

So you have something to add?

Columbia rocked, Al!!

ikiT

Columbia was pretty effing amazing.

jordn6971

lolobugg said:

jordn6971 said:

whofeelslikeadrank said:

jordn6971 said:

I agree with the OP. The band used to mix up their setlists much better. Columvia was the only show only saw this tour and it was the worst I have seen in 40+ show.

So you have something to add?

Columbia rocked, Al!!

I thought Mike had a bad night. Listen to the bootleg. He couldn't remember how to play marker in the Sand or infallible. Marker is one of my favorite songs so that was a let down. And we got another rockin in the free world and YLB. Don't need either of those especially since Mike didn't really solo much in YLB.

ikiT

2013 Worcester 2 after 2013 Worcester 1 not as amazing, but still head and shoulders above any other effing thing I would have been doing.
I haven't seen a million shows, (just TEN as a matter of fact), but that 2nd Worcester show is the lowest ranked of all of them.
Granted, the Worcester Centrum is not by any means Madison Square Garden. The only guest we had was Dick from Norwood.

ed. and The Other Side too

jordn6971

I think they messed up light years too. Another of my favorites.

Franklin Delano Bluth

PhishinPearls said:

I'm going to preface this by saying MSG2 was my first show in six years. Not because I love the band any less, but sometimes life gets in the way, and lots of things happen - before you know it, it's been six years. But I've also seen my fair share of shows - some spectacular shows (Borgata 2 in 05, my first show, followed by the Philly 05 show, the final two shows at the Spectrum) and some mediocre ones (Camden and Mansfield in 08).

Knowing what this band can do, having seen them many times on back to back nights, having seen them really dig into their catalogue, etc., I can honestly say last night's show was a huge disappointment.

I don't come to see Pearl Jam to hear their greatest hits, and I can safely say the majority of us don't come to hear a greatest hits album either, but that's what we basically got. 7 songs off of Ten, 7 covers, 4 from LB, 3 from Vs. and 3 from Vitalogy. 75% of the show was either their newest album, not their stuff, or written before 1995. I know that's how this band actually got popular, but the reason they developed a devout following was because of albums like No Code, Yield, Binaural, and Riot Act.

Yes, it was great to see All or None, great to see Present Tense, great to see Breath. But a few songs in a first encore a show does not make. And frankly, the encore wasn't spectacular even with those songs.

Think of shows like 10/3/05 in Philly - a first set that had Wash, Brain of J, Faithfull, Sad, Alone, and Green Disease in the first 10 songs alone.

It's MSG. It's the second night in the same city, and they chose to play it safe and play their hits, which is their right. But let's not fool ourselves and say what a great show this was. It wasn't, and it wasn't even close. I recognize the guys are getting long in the tooth, I recognize it's the fourth show in five nights, but they can be so much better than what they gave us last night. This isn't sour grapes, it's just an honest assessment.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I can't understand some of the logic that gets tossed around here. I've seen this band five times this year and each one was better than the last and that's why I can't wait till the next one.

It might be time for some people to take a break and check out some other artists.

jordn6971

Franklin Delano Bluth said:

PhishinPearls said:

I'm going to preface this by saying MSG2 was my first show in six years. Not because I love the band any less, but sometimes life gets in the way, and lots of things happen - before you know it, it's been six years. But I've also seen my fair share of shows - some spectacular shows (Borgata 2 in 05, my first show, followed by the Philly 05 show, the final two shows at the Spectrum) and some mediocre ones (Camden and Mansfield in 08).

Knowing what this band can do, having seen them many times on back to back nights, having seen them really dig into their catalogue, etc., I can honestly say last night's show was a huge disappointment.

I don't come to see Pearl Jam to hear their greatest hits, and I can safely say the majority of us don't come to hear a greatest hits album either, but that's what we basically got. 7 songs off of Ten, 7 covers, 4 from LB, 3 from Vs. and 3 from Vitalogy. 75% of the show was either their newest album, not their stuff, or written before 1995. I know that's how this band actually got popular, but the reason they developed a devout following was because of albums like No Code, Yield, Binaural, and Riot Act.

Yes, it was great to see All or None, great to see Present Tense, great to see Breath. But a few songs in a first encore a show does not make. And frankly, the encore wasn't spectacular even with those songs.

Think of shows like 10/3/05 in Philly - a first set that had Wash, Brain of J, Faithfull, Sad, Alone, and Green Disease in the first 10 songs alone.

It's MSG. It's the second night in the same city, and they chose to play it safe and play their hits, which is their right. But let's not fool ourselves and say what a great show this was. It wasn't, and it wasn't even close. I recognize the guys are getting long in the tooth, I recognize it's the fourth show in five nights, but they can be so much better than what they gave us last night. This isn't sour grapes, it's just an honest assessment.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I can't understand some of the logic that gets tossed around here. I've seen this band five times this year and each one was better than the last and that's why I can't wait till the next one.

It might be time for some people to take a break and check out some other artists.

That's what I'm doing. I've been going to Pearl Jam shows for 20 years and this tour the setlists aren't as exciting to me anymore. Raleigh certainly didn't help things.

I saw David Gilmour a few weeks ago, I'm seeing Sturgill Simpson in a month and plan to see as many Widespread Panic shows as possible. Just seeing Panic and Pearl Jam back to back south Carolina it was rough because the sound quality at the Panic show was much better.

I feel like really need to catch a guns n roses show as well

weekapaug19

Get on those WSP shows while you can. New dates just announced and more to come in October, but their days of being a touring band are quickly ending this year

jordn6971

weekapaug19 said:

Get on those WSP shows while you can. New dates just announced and more to come in October, but their days of being a touring band are quickly ending this year

Luckily i live in Milwaukee. I still think they will do their 3 night runs here most years.

I caught them 3 times already this tour. Drove out to Chatanooga to see them on 4/20 after Raleigh got cancelled. I plan on going tomorrow, friday, and saturday in Chicago and then Missoula next month.

lolobugg

jordn6971 said:

weekapaug19 said:

Get on those WSP shows while you can. New dates just announced and more to come in October, but their days of being a touring band are quickly ending this year

Luckily i live in Milwaukee. I still think they will do their 3 night runs here most years.

I caught them 3 times already this tour. Drove out to Chatanooga to see them on 4/20 after Raleigh got cancelled. I plan on going tomorrow, friday, and saturday in Chicago and then Missoula next month.

Widespread is coming back to Asheville in the fall I think. I've seen Jimmy Herring at the Christmas Jam and really enjoyed his guitar work. I have never seen Widespread Panic so I might try to get tickets if they are actually calling it a day

mschostok

I'll say this: I thought it was a great show, they did play a lot of repeats and held back on a lot of the rarities we all wanna hear but nonetheless, you're seeing the best band in the world, I'm just happy I got to hear them in person again.

lolobugg

jordn6971 said:

Franklin Delano Bluth said:

PhishinPearls said:

I'm going to preface this by saying MSG2 was my first show in six years. Not because I love the band any less, but sometimes life gets in the way, and lots of things happen - before you know it, it's been six years. But I've also seen my fair share of shows - some spectacular shows (Borgata 2 in 05, my first show, followed by the Philly 05 show, the final two shows at the Spectrum) and some mediocre ones (Camden and Mansfield in 08).

Knowing what this band can do, having seen them many times on back to back nights, having seen them really dig into their catalogue, etc., I can honestly say last night's show was a huge disappointment.

I don't come to see Pearl Jam to hear their greatest hits, and I can safely say the majority of us don't come to hear a greatest hits album either, but that's what we basically got. 7 songs off of Ten, 7 covers, 4 from LB, 3 from Vs. and 3 from Vitalogy. 75% of the show was either their newest album, not their stuff, or written before 1995. I know that's how this band actually got popular, but the reason they developed a devout following was because of albums like No Code, Yield, Binaural, and Riot Act.

Yes, it was great to see All or None, great to see Present Tense, great to see Breath. But a few songs in a first encore a show does not make. And frankly, the encore wasn't spectacular even with those songs.

Think of shows like 10/3/05 in Philly - a first set that had Wash, Brain of J, Faithfull, Sad, Alone, and Green Disease in the first 10 songs alone.

It's MSG. It's the second night in the same city, and they chose to play it safe and play their hits, which is their right. But let's not fool ourselves and say what a great show this was. It wasn't, and it wasn't even close. I recognize the guys are getting long in the tooth, I recognize it's the fourth show in five nights, but they can be so much better than what they gave us last night. This isn't sour grapes, it's just an honest assessment.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I can't understand some of the logic that gets tossed around here. I've seen this band five times this year and each one was better than the last and that's why I can't wait till the next one.

It might be time for some people to take a break and check out some other artists.

That's what I'm doing. I've been going to Pearl Jam shows for 20 years and this tour the setlists aren't as exciting to me anymore. Raleigh certainly didn't help things.

I saw David Gilmour a few weeks ago, I'm seeing Sturgill Simpson in a month and plan to see as many Widespread Panic shows as possible. Just seeing Panic and Pearl Jam back to back south Carolina it was rough because the sound quality at the Panic show was much better.

I feel like really need to catch a guns n roses show as well

My theory on the static set lists is I think they are probably going to film another compilation DVD like touring Band 2000. I really enjoyed marker and light years even though they did mess up some parts in Columbia. I think the whole cancellation really put a cloud on Hampton and somewhat on Columbia as well

DR49650

Long time fan first ever post.....saw my first show in 1998..... Seen 5 garden shows, including the 03 show that ended up on DVD...closed the spectrum etc.... Feel compelled to finally add my two cents.... 5/1 was my 26th show....these fan view post in general have annoyed me to no end. I think in my 26 shows I have seen corduroy 26 times.... I am confused as to what the naysayers/complainers want....the setlists have always been formulaic the opener is either slow/fast....generally speaking even flow shows up around song 12.......porch, RVM, DTE rotate closing the first set and first encore, sometimes Go closes one of those as well.....rockin, fuckin, baba, YL, indifference, all along the watchtower rotate out closing the show....been like this since 98...... Black and alive have moved to the 2nd encore.....the first encore starts out slow...closes fast every show......I danced/jumped my ass off Sunday night to songs I have heard smiling times...if you don't like better man what the hell are you there for? It took me 11 years to finally see smile live in closing down the spectrum.....I also saw bugs and it was just as dumb as it was on the album....my point I remember very easily in 2000 getting tickets through the fan club for 5 shows and again in 2003..... The fan club has grown by leaps and bounds and made it harder on the early ppl to get tickets...no complaints I take what I get from them and enjoy the crap out of the shows I get lucky enough to attend......yeah Eddie has changed and had a family and is noticeably happier and it's great I love it....his voice sounds happier....I have a kid now too and Sunday night was my first night out with my wife in 6 months....it was tremendous the band is tighter and better by leaps and bounds now than in 98 when I first saw them which was about an 1 hr and 48 minute show....now they give ya 3 hrs and 32-34 songs of no frills straight rock and roll.....in this day and age of nonsensical autotuned crap all the complainers should just enjoy this band they are part of a dying breed....like Eddie said in 03 they could sound like good Charlotte or some crap......lol.....be patient stick with them you will get your song.....thanks.....

HesCalledDyer

^Yep!

whofeelslikeadrank

jordn6971 said:

whofeelslikeadrank said:

jordn6971 said:

I agree with the OP. The band used to mix up their setlists much better. Columvia was the only show only saw this tour and it was the worst I have seen in 40+ show.

So you have something to add?

so long, see you later.

rylan

The fact you said PJ mailed it in is laughable. I get that it's your opinion but you get a 30 plus song set, 3hrs long where they pour everything they got into the show but ya man I think you should write the boys and explain your thoughts maybe you can get your money back dude haha. What a joke