Disappointed in PJ Fans Today

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
    edited April 2016
    I am not a cold individual at all. I just feel that making a political statement against bigotry is much more important than travel plans.
    Of course i understand the disappointment fans feel. I have travelled. I was also at Wrigley, where i was completely convinced that the show would not go on. For about three hours i genuinely thought i'd spent $3000 on a trip to see a fucking Phish concert. :fearful::lol: Luckily i was wrong, lol.
    I just care way more about the issue of discrimination. I care very much about people standing up for what THEY believe in to fight for equality, even if it inconveniences thousands (or millions) of people. I support protest.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Kev - Coat and Keys
    Kev - Coat and Keys Earth Posts: 357
    Can't believe all this aggro on the forums over our band cancelling one gig.
    Do people not remember they also gave us Ole for nothing?
  • PJlive
    PJlive Posts: 469

    Can't believe all this aggro on the forums over our band cancelling one gig.
    Do people not remember they also gave us Ole for nothing?

    Personally I'm not sure what the hell has happened to the 10C members. Its as if it was a click of a switch.
    9/1-9/2/2000 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    4/28/2003 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    5/3/2003 - Bryce Jordan Center, State College, PA
    7/5-7/6/2003 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    7/13/2003 - Hershey Park, Hershey, PA
    10/1/2004 - Sovereign Center, Reading, PA
    9/1/2005 - Gorge, George, WA
    10/03/2005 - Wachovia Center, Phila, PA
    5/27-5/28/2006 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/16/2008 - Columbia, SC
    6/19-6/20/2008 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/24-6/25 - Madison Square Garden
    10/28-10/31/2008 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    9/22/2012 - MidTown, Atlanta, GA
    10/21-10/22 - Wells Fargo Center, Phila, PA
    10/30/2013 - Charlotte, NC
    04/21/2016 - Columbia, SC
    ......
  • walkunafraid
    walkunafraid Posts: 2,655
    PJlive said:

    Can't believe all this aggro on the forums over our band cancelling one gig.
    Do people not remember they also gave us Ole for nothing?

    Personally I'm not sure what the hell has happened to the 10C members. Its as if it was a click of a switch.
    This forum ain't what it used to be. Went away for a solid 6 years, came back hoping that things would have reverted back a bit, but nope. I'll likely go away again soon.
    Everything has chains...Absolutely nothing's changed. - PJ

    “The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    PJ_Soul said:

    MayDay10 said:

    I think that the "travelling fan" is a very significant portion of the fan base... In fact, every fan who I know/can think of has travelled a bunch to see them. Its not just this board either. 2 of my best friends in the 10c don't post and they are going all over this tour.

    Would it be off base to say that a show like Raleigh would have been 1/4 out of towners?

    Yes, without any evidence whatsoever, it would be off base to say that. No one will ever really know. But I feel like since we are on the "inside", i.e. the megafans vs the normals, lol, the whole thing seems much much more pronounced to us than it probably actually is. But at any rate, either way, Pearl Jam is not responsible for those decisions the fans make about travelling.
    Yeah. It is pronounced. Local dude that won tickets from 98.9 "The Rock" or whatever the local station is don't really have no bones chew over this. The "normals" are factored in to overall ticket sales when MANAGERS (total all caps :bee: ) make tour plans.

    Lexington KY isn't getting a show if PJ is playing Cincy, Indy, Wrigley within the next week.

    So yeah, the mega fans matter. Otherwise PJ would be playing local theaters opening for Boston if the mega fan didn't matter.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
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    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • PJlive
    PJlive Posts: 469
    9/1-9/2/2000 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    4/28/2003 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    5/3/2003 - Bryce Jordan Center, State College, PA
    7/5-7/6/2003 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    7/13/2003 - Hershey Park, Hershey, PA
    10/1/2004 - Sovereign Center, Reading, PA
    9/1/2005 - Gorge, George, WA
    10/03/2005 - Wachovia Center, Phila, PA
    5/27-5/28/2006 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/16/2008 - Columbia, SC
    6/19-6/20/2008 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/24-6/25 - Madison Square Garden
    10/28-10/31/2008 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    9/22/2012 - MidTown, Atlanta, GA
    10/21-10/22 - Wells Fargo Center, Phila, PA
    10/30/2013 - Charlotte, NC
    04/21/2016 - Columbia, SC
    ......
  • jervin007
    jervin007 Posts: 3,182

    PJlive said:

    Can't believe all this aggro on the forums over our band cancelling one gig.
    Do people not remember they also gave us Ole for nothing?

    Personally I'm not sure what the hell has happened to the 10C members. Its as if it was a click of a switch.
    This forum ain't what it used to be. Went away for a solid 6 years, came back hoping that things would have reverted back a bit, but nope. I'll likely go away again soon.</blockquote

    Agreed. That's why I'm more of a casual observer at this point.

    PJ:
    2003 Mansfield: July 2
    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
    2010 Boston: May 17
    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
    2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7

    EV Solo: Boston 8/2/08, Boston 6/16/11
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    edited April 2016

    standing tall in solidarity

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  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    edited April 2016

    standing tall in solidarity

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  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127

    standing tall in solidarity

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  • StevieG
    StevieG Ontario Posts: 850
    rollings said:

    standing tall in solidarity

    image

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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,244
    PJ_Soul said:

    I am not a cold individual at all. I just feel that making a political statement against bigotry is much more important than travel plans.
    Of course i understand the disappointment fans feel. I have travelled. I was also at Wrigley, where i was completely convinced that the show would not go on. For about three hours i genuinely thought i'd spent $3000 on a trip to see a fucking Phish concert. :fearful::lol: Luckily i was wrong, lol.
    I just care way more about the issue of discrimination. I care very much about people standing up for what THEY believe in to fight for equality, even if it inconveniences thousands (or millions) of people. I support protest.

    I wouldn't spend 3k on any band but what's wrong with phish?

    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677

    PJ_Soul said:

    I am not a cold individual at all. I just feel that making a political statement against bigotry is much more important than travel plans.
    Of course i understand the disappointment fans feel. I have travelled. I was also at Wrigley, where i was completely convinced that the show would not go on. For about three hours i genuinely thought i'd spent $3000 on a trip to see a fucking Phish concert. :fearful::lol: Luckily i was wrong, lol.
    I just care way more about the issue of discrimination. I care very much about people standing up for what THEY believe in to fight for equality, even if it inconveniences thousands (or millions) of people. I support protest.

    I wouldn't spend 3k on any band but what's wrong with phish?

    Phish Rule!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNHIFM0Y87c
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
    edited April 2016
    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    MayDay10 said:

    I think that the "travelling fan" is a very significant portion of the fan base... In fact, every fan who I know/can think of has travelled a bunch to see them. Its not just this board either. 2 of my best friends in the 10c don't post and they are going all over this tour.

    Would it be off base to say that a show like Raleigh would have been 1/4 out of towners?

    Yes, without any evidence whatsoever, it would be off base to say that. No one will ever really know. But I feel like since we are on the "inside", i.e. the megafans vs the normals, lol, the whole thing seems much much more pronounced to us than it probably actually is. But at any rate, either way, Pearl Jam is not responsible for those decisions the fans make about travelling.
    Yeah. It is pronounced. Local dude that won tickets from 98.9 "The Rock" or whatever the local station is don't really have no bones chew over this. The "normals" are factored in to overall ticket sales when MANAGERS (total all caps :bee: ) make tour plans.

    Lexington KY isn't getting a show if PJ is playing Cincy, Indy, Wrigley within the next week.

    So yeah, the mega fans matter. Otherwise PJ would be playing local theaters opening for Boston if the mega fan didn't matter.
    Yeah, i never said we don't matter. I said our travel plans aren't their responsibilty. Obviously expected attendance determines tour schedules, but i feel like what you're talking about is simply them thinking about where they can sell out shows and how many shows in a tour they can fill seats for. Oversaturating the market isn't going to benefit them. Yes, that's true that more people will travel if there are fewer shows (Vancouver shows sell faster if there is no Seattle show).
    Not sure what you mean by your last sentence. You think that if it weren't for fans travelling to see them they wouldn't even be able to work beyond opening for other small bands??
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • RiotAct10
    RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,640
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I am not a cold individual at all. I just feel that making a political statement against bigotry is much more important than travel plans.
    Of course i understand the disappointment fans feel. I have travelled. I was also at Wrigley, where i was completely convinced that the show would not go on. For about three hours i genuinely thought i'd spent $3000 on a trip to see a fucking Phish concert. :fearful::lol: Luckily i was wrong, lol.
    I just care way more about the issue of discrimination. I care very much about people standing up for what THEY believe in to fight for equality, even if it inconveniences thousands (or millions) of people. I support protest.

    I wouldn't spend 3k on any band but what's wrong with phish?

    Phish Rule!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNHIFM0Y87c
    That video is pretty funny.
    words seem so out of place.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
    edited April 2016
    ^^ Cracks me up every time!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514
    PJlive said:

    What does

    JP Losman said:



    Cast a provisional ballot that will be counted unless the county election commission has reason to believe your affidavit is false.

    And so yes, you do need an ID or you have to establish an impediment. The problem is that getting an ID in the first place has been made to be intentionally more difficult for certain types (poor black neighborhoods) of voters. And the reasonable impediment clause is very subjective. But yes, the law clearly prevents people from voting without an ID. There are exceptions like anything else but it has a voter ID law, which went into effect in 2013.

    Enjoy that hot dog you will be eating with your fellow Trump supporters.



    Also I'm sorry, I am not a Trump supporter nor am I a Bernie supporter. Sure as hell am no Cruz supporter either.
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  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,074
    edited April 2016
    80% of the people I met in Columbia traveled at least 3 hours for the show. Most got on planes. They better respect our travel plans because without the hardcore members of their fanbase they'd be playing large theaters instead of arenas in most areas of the country.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • PJlive
    PJlive Posts: 469
    ComeToTX said:

    80% of the people I met in Columbia traveled at least 3 hours for the show. Most got on planes. They better respect our travel plans because without the hardcore members of their fanbase they'd be playing large theaters instead of arenas in most areas of the country.

    I can tell you right now, 65% of the tickets sold were to South Carolina zip codes via ticketmaster.
    9/1-9/2/2000 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    4/28/2003 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    5/3/2003 - Bryce Jordan Center, State College, PA
    7/5-7/6/2003 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    7/13/2003 - Hershey Park, Hershey, PA
    10/1/2004 - Sovereign Center, Reading, PA
    9/1/2005 - Gorge, George, WA
    10/03/2005 - Wachovia Center, Phila, PA
    5/27-5/28/2006 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/16/2008 - Columbia, SC
    6/19-6/20/2008 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/24-6/25 - Madison Square Garden
    10/28-10/31/2008 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    9/22/2012 - MidTown, Atlanta, GA
    10/21-10/22 - Wells Fargo Center, Phila, PA
    10/30/2013 - Charlotte, NC
    04/21/2016 - Columbia, SC
    ......