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    PJlivePJlive Earth Posts: 469
    edited April 2016
    JP Losman said:

    PJlive said:

    South Carolina’s voter ID is far less strict than many of the other 35 states that have passed laws to require voters to show identification at the polls.

    Keep trying to piss in the bowl.... Your missing....

    Looks like we found ourselves a Republican.
    Simply stating a fact!!!! Where you on the other hand are spewing more shit than a ducks ass!!!
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    7/13/2003 - Hershey Park, Hershey, PA
    10/1/2004 - Sovereign Center, Reading, PA
    9/1/2005 - Gorge, George, WA
    10/03/2005 - Wachovia Center, Phila, PA
    5/27-5/28/2006 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/16/2008 - Columbia, SC
    6/19-6/20/2008 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/24-6/25 - Madison Square Garden
    10/28-10/31/2008 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    9/22/2012 - MidTown, Atlanta, GA
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    10/30/2013 - Charlotte, NC
    04/21/2016 - Columbia, SC
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    JP LosmanJP Losman Raleigh Posts: 149
    PJlive said:

    JP Losman said:

    PJlive said:

    South Carolina’s voter ID is far less strict than many of the other 35 states that have passed laws to require voters to show identification at the polls.

    Keep trying to piss in the bowl.... Your missing....

    Looks like we found ourselves a Republican.
    Simply stating a fact!!!! Where you on the other hand are spewing more shit than a ducks ass!!!
    South Carolina HAD bad voter ID laws. And they have coupled them with bad policies which makes the laws worse.

    http://www.thenation.com/article/63756-reasons-why-racism-is-still-alive-in-south-carolina/

    ..thanks for coming out. Enjoy this weekend w/ your fellow Trump voters.
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    PJlivePJlive Earth Posts: 469
    edited April 2016
    JP Losman said:

    I'm disappointed in all pearl jam fans and a band that is supporting voter ID suppression tonight in South Carolina. oh, but poor black people don't deserve our efforts by a boycott. maybe we will just do a rant like we've done every other time there was a social cause worth fighting.

    JP Losman said:

    PJlive said:

    JP Losman said:

    PJlive said:

    South Carolina’s voter ID is far less strict than many of the other 35 states that have passed laws to require voters to show identification at the polls.

    Keep trying to piss in the bowl.... Your missing....

    Looks like we found ourselves a Republican.
    Simply stating a fact!!!! Where you on the other hand are spewing more shit than a ducks ass!!!
    South Carolina HAD bad voter ID laws. And they have coupled them with bad policies which makes the laws worse.

    http://www.thenation.com/article/63756-reasons-why-racism-is-still-alive-in-south-carolina/

    ..thanks for coming out. Enjoy this weekend w/ your fellow Trump voters.


    Again... THERE IS NO LAW BLOCKING PEOPLE FROM VOTING WITHOUT AN ID..
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    5/3/2003 - Bryce Jordan Center, State College, PA
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    7/13/2003 - Hershey Park, Hershey, PA
    10/1/2004 - Sovereign Center, Reading, PA
    9/1/2005 - Gorge, George, WA
    10/03/2005 - Wachovia Center, Phila, PA
    5/27-5/28/2006 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/16/2008 - Columbia, SC
    6/19-6/20/2008 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/24-6/25 - Madison Square Garden
    10/28-10/31/2008 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    9/22/2012 - MidTown, Atlanta, GA
    10/21-10/22 - Wells Fargo Center, Phila, PA
    10/30/2013 - Charlotte, NC
    04/21/2016 - Columbia, SC
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    PJlivePJlive Earth Posts: 469
    So shall we say that you're pulling at strings, and you really don't know your ass from a hole in the ground?
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    7/5-7/6/2003 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    7/13/2003 - Hershey Park, Hershey, PA
    10/1/2004 - Sovereign Center, Reading, PA
    9/1/2005 - Gorge, George, WA
    10/03/2005 - Wachovia Center, Phila, PA
    5/27-5/28/2006 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/16/2008 - Columbia, SC
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    9/22/2012 - MidTown, Atlanta, GA
    10/21-10/22 - Wells Fargo Center, Phila, PA
    10/30/2013 - Charlotte, NC
    04/21/2016 - Columbia, SC
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    JP LosmanJP Losman Raleigh Posts: 149
    You will be asked to show one of the following Photo IDs on Election Day:

    South Carolina Driver's License
    ID Card Issued by South Carolina Department of Motor Vehicles
    South Carolina Voter Registration Card with Photo
    Federal Military ID
    U.S. Passport
    If you do not have one of the above photo IDs, you can get one for free by:

    Registered voters can get a voter registration card with a photo from their county voter registration and elections office by providing their date of birth and the last four digits of their Social Security number.
    Get a DMV ID card at a local DMV office. To see what documentation is required click here.
    If you do not have a photo ID on Election Day you may be able to vote a provisional ballot after showing your non-photo voter registration card. You must have a reasonable impediment to obtaining a photo ID in order to vote the provisional ballot. Reasonable impediments include:

    Religious objection to being photographed
    Disability or illness
    Work schedule
    Lack of transportation
    Lack of birth certificate
    Family responsibilities
    Any other obstacle you find reasonable
    To vote under the reasonable impediment exception:

    Present your current, non-photo registration card at the polling place
    Sign an affidavit stating why you cannot obtain a photo ID
    Cast a provisional ballot that will be counted unless the county election commission has reason to believe your affidavit is false.
    If you do not have a photo ID and do not have a reasonable impediment to obtaining one, or you forgot to bring it with you to the polls, you may still vote a provisional ballot. However, for your vote to be counted you must provide one of the photo IDs to the county election commission prior to certification of the election (usually the Thursday or Friday after the election).


    And so yes, you do need an ID or you have to establish an impediment. The problem is that getting an ID in the first place has been made to be intentionally more difficult for certain types (poor black neighborhoods) of voters. And the reasonable impediment clause is very subjective. But yes, the law clearly prevents people from voting without an ID. There are exceptions like anything else but it has a voter ID law, which went into effect in 2013.

    Enjoy that hot dog you will be eating with your fellow Trump supporters.
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    JP LosmanJP Losman Raleigh Posts: 149
    edited April 2016
    and don't act like that having those Voter ID laws do not act as a deterrent. Its bad policy. Its intended to suppress the black vote. And its done so by the state government. Its disgusting.
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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,191
    fuck Voter ID laws.... total bullshit. NC passed this as well. no surprise considering our legislature.

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    PJlivePJlive Earth Posts: 469
    Per the STATE LAW it states...
    If the voter does not have a photo ID, their vote will be counted unless someone contests their identity.

    Go do some more research.
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    4/28/2003 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    5/3/2003 - Bryce Jordan Center, State College, PA
    7/5-7/6/2003 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    7/13/2003 - Hershey Park, Hershey, PA
    10/1/2004 - Sovereign Center, Reading, PA
    9/1/2005 - Gorge, George, WA
    10/03/2005 - Wachovia Center, Phila, PA
    5/27-5/28/2006 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/16/2008 - Columbia, SC
    6/19-6/20/2008 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/24-6/25 - Madison Square Garden
    10/28-10/31/2008 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    9/22/2012 - MidTown, Atlanta, GA
    10/21-10/22 - Wells Fargo Center, Phila, PA
    10/30/2013 - Charlotte, NC
    04/21/2016 - Columbia, SC
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    JP LosmanJP Losman Raleigh Posts: 149
    PJlive said:

    Per the STATE LAW it states...
    If the voter does not have a photo ID, their vote will be counted unless someone contests their identity.

    Go do some more research.

    Oh you Donald supporter, that isn't true. You are learning for from your idol well though. Just because you keep repeating yourself doesn't make a lie true.
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    iwasatpj20iwasatpj20 Rockford, IL Posts: 3,303
    JP Losman said:

    PJlive said:

    Per the STATE LAW it states...
    If the voter does not have a photo ID, their vote will be counted unless someone contests their identity.

    Go do some more research.

    Oh you Donald supporter, that isn't true. You are learning for from your idol well though. Just because you keep repeating yourself doesn't make a lie true.
    Give it a rest, I get it, I'm horrible since I have no dog in this voter ID issue.

    Not the right forum for this discussion.
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    PJlivePJlive Earth Posts: 469
    JP Losman said:

    PJlive said:

    Per the STATE LAW it states...
    If the voter does not have a photo ID, their vote will be counted unless someone contests their identity.

    Go do some more research.

    Oh you Donald supporter, that isn't true. You are learning for from your idol well though. Just because you keep repeating yourself doesn't make a lie true.
    It says the same shit in what you posted. Get your HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!!!
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    4/28/2003 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    5/3/2003 - Bryce Jordan Center, State College, PA
    7/5-7/6/2003 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    7/13/2003 - Hershey Park, Hershey, PA
    10/1/2004 - Sovereign Center, Reading, PA
    9/1/2005 - Gorge, George, WA
    10/03/2005 - Wachovia Center, Phila, PA
    5/27-5/28/2006 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/16/2008 - Columbia, SC
    6/19-6/20/2008 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/24-6/25 - Madison Square Garden
    10/28-10/31/2008 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    9/22/2012 - MidTown, Atlanta, GA
    10/21-10/22 - Wells Fargo Center, Phila, PA
    10/30/2013 - Charlotte, NC
    04/21/2016 - Columbia, SC
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    PJlivePJlive Earth Posts: 469
    What does
    JP Losman said:



    Cast a provisional ballot that will be counted unless the county election commission has reason to believe your affidavit is false.

    And so yes, you do need an ID or you have to establish an impediment. The problem is that getting an ID in the first place has been made to be intentionally more difficult for certain types (poor black neighborhoods) of voters. And the reasonable impediment clause is very subjective. But yes, the law clearly prevents people from voting without an ID. There are exceptions like anything else but it has a voter ID law, which went into effect in 2013.

    Enjoy that hot dog you will be eating with your fellow Trump supporters.



    Also I'm sorry, I am not a Trump supporter nor am I a Bernie supporter. Sure as hell am no Cruz supporter either.
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    4/28/2003 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    5/3/2003 - Bryce Jordan Center, State College, PA
    7/5-7/6/2003 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    7/13/2003 - Hershey Park, Hershey, PA
    10/1/2004 - Sovereign Center, Reading, PA
    9/1/2005 - Gorge, George, WA
    10/03/2005 - Wachovia Center, Phila, PA
    5/27-5/28/2006 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/16/2008 - Columbia, SC
    6/19-6/20/2008 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/24-6/25 - Madison Square Garden
    10/28-10/31/2008 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    9/22/2012 - MidTown, Atlanta, GA
    10/21-10/22 - Wells Fargo Center, Phila, PA
    10/30/2013 - Charlotte, NC
    04/21/2016 - Columbia, SC
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    JP LosmanJP Losman Raleigh Posts: 149
    PJlive said:

    What does

    JP Losman said:



    Cast a provisional ballot that will be counted unless the county election commission has reason to believe your affidavit is false.

    And so yes, you do need an ID or you have to establish an impediment. The problem is that getting an ID in the first place has been made to be intentionally more difficult for certain types (poor black neighborhoods) of voters. And the reasonable impediment clause is very subjective. But yes, the law clearly prevents people from voting without an ID. There are exceptions like anything else but it has a voter ID law, which went into effect in 2013.

    Enjoy that hot dog you will be eating with your fellow Trump supporters.



    Also I'm sorry, I am not a Trump supporter nor am I a Bernie supporter. Sure as hell am no Cruz supporter either.
    Well you don't sound like a patriot if you are pro voter suppression (pretending its not happening and that isn't the intent of republicans in SC).

    and did you see what happens to make your provisional vote count...you still need to go within a week and show your voter ID. That's why its being dubbed provisional at that point.
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    PJlivePJlive Earth Posts: 469
    Again, IT IS NOT A LAW....
    That is not true. Unless your vote is contested it will COUNT!
    Its been highly talked about here. I think I know what is going on in my state...

    LMFAO. You sir are one of the dumbest motherfuckers I have ever met.

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    4/28/2003 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    5/3/2003 - Bryce Jordan Center, State College, PA
    7/5-7/6/2003 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    7/13/2003 - Hershey Park, Hershey, PA
    10/1/2004 - Sovereign Center, Reading, PA
    9/1/2005 - Gorge, George, WA
    10/03/2005 - Wachovia Center, Phila, PA
    5/27-5/28/2006 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/16/2008 - Columbia, SC
    6/19-6/20/2008 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/24-6/25 - Madison Square Garden
    10/28-10/31/2008 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    9/22/2012 - MidTown, Atlanta, GA
    10/21-10/22 - Wells Fargo Center, Phila, PA
    10/30/2013 - Charlotte, NC
    04/21/2016 - Columbia, SC
    ......
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    JP LosmanJP Losman Raleigh Posts: 149
    If you do not have a photo ID and do not have a reasonable impediment to obtaining one, or you forgot to bring it with you to the polls, you may still vote a provisional ballot. However, for your vote to be counted you must provide one of the photo IDs to the county election commission prior to certification of the election (usually the Thursday or Friday after the election).


    You clearly are racist. There is severe voter suppression going on in SC and you keep defending it. No point in arguing with racists.
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    PJlivePJlive Earth Posts: 469
    Do you really want me to google for you Voter ID in South CArolina... Click on the latest from lets say MSNBC or say thestate.com newspaper.

    Enjoy.... No sense arguing with a clueless hillbilly.
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    4/28/2003 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    5/3/2003 - Bryce Jordan Center, State College, PA
    7/5-7/6/2003 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    7/13/2003 - Hershey Park, Hershey, PA
    10/1/2004 - Sovereign Center, Reading, PA
    9/1/2005 - Gorge, George, WA
    10/03/2005 - Wachovia Center, Phila, PA
    5/27-5/28/2006 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/16/2008 - Columbia, SC
    6/19-6/20/2008 - Tweeter Center, Camden, NJ
    6/24-6/25 - Madison Square Garden
    10/28-10/31/2008 - The Spectrum, Phila, PA
    9/22/2012 - MidTown, Atlanta, GA
    10/21-10/22 - Wells Fargo Center, Phila, PA
    10/30/2013 - Charlotte, NC
    04/21/2016 - Columbia, SC
    ......
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    RP112579RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,360
    JP Losman said:

    If you do not have a photo ID and do not have a reasonable impediment to obtaining one, or you forgot to bring it with you to the polls, you may still vote a provisional ballot. However, for your vote to be counted you must provide one of the photo IDs to the county election commission prior to certification of the election (usually the Thursday or Friday after the election).


    You clearly are racist. There is severe voter suppression going on in SC and you keep defending it. No point in arguing with racists.

    Now you're calling people racist? Get a fucking grip, dude.
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    JP LosmanJP Losman Raleigh Posts: 149
    RP112579 said:

    JP Losman said:

    If you do not have a photo ID and do not have a reasonable impediment to obtaining one, or you forgot to bring it with you to the polls, you may still vote a provisional ballot. However, for your vote to be counted you must provide one of the photo IDs to the county election commission prior to certification of the election (usually the Thursday or Friday after the election).


    You clearly are racist. There is severe voter suppression going on in SC and you keep defending it. No point in arguing with racists.

    Now you're calling people racist? Get a fucking grip, dude.
    i'm getting called dumb motherfucker by people trying to argue that SC doesn't have a voter ID law and that there is no voter suppression going on by the Republican party. Ok....
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    RP112579RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,360
    edited April 2016
    JP Losman said:

    RP112579 said:

    JP Losman said:

    If you do not have a photo ID and do not have a reasonable impediment to obtaining one, or you forgot to bring it with you to the polls, you may still vote a provisional ballot. However, for your vote to be counted you must provide one of the photo IDs to the county election commission prior to certification of the election (usually the Thursday or Friday after the election).


    You clearly are racist. There is severe voter suppression going on in SC and you keep defending it. No point in arguing with racists.

    Now you're calling people racist? Get a fucking grip, dude.
    i'm getting called dumb motherfucker by people trying to argue that SC doesn't have a voter ID law and that there is no voter suppression going on by the Republican party. Ok....
    You probably got called that a lot during Bills games when you threw an interception.
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    PjWeezyPjWeezy Posts: 159
    I wonder if these 2 people have ever heard the phrase "agree to disagree".
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    walkunafraidwalkunafraid Posts: 2,557
    RP112579 said:

    JP Losman said:

    RP112579 said:

    JP Losman said:

    If you do not have a photo ID and do not have a reasonable impediment to obtaining one, or you forgot to bring it with you to the polls, you may still vote a provisional ballot. However, for your vote to be counted you must provide one of the photo IDs to the county election commission prior to certification of the election (usually the Thursday or Friday after the election).


    You clearly are racist. There is severe voter suppression going on in SC and you keep defending it. No point in arguing with racists.

    Now you're calling people racist? Get a fucking grip, dude.
    i'm getting called dumb motherfucker by people trying to argue that SC doesn't have a voter ID law and that there is no voter suppression going on by the Republican party. Ok....
    You probably got called that a lot during Bill's games when you threw an interception.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,510
    I too am disappointed in the reaction
    RP112579 said:

    JP Losman said:

    RP112579 said:

    JP Losman said:

    If you do not have a photo ID and do not have a reasonable impediment to obtaining one, or you forgot to bring it with you to the polls, you may still vote a provisional ballot. However, for your vote to be counted you must provide one of the photo IDs to the county election commission prior to certification of the election (usually the Thursday or Friday after the election).


    You clearly are racist. There is severe voter suppression going on in SC and you keep defending it. No point in arguing with racists.

    Now you're calling people racist? Get a fucking grip, dude.
    i'm getting called dumb motherfucker by people trying to argue that SC doesn't have a voter ID law and that there is no voter suppression going on by the Republican party. Ok....
    You probably got called that a lot during Bills games when you threw an interception.
    #billsmafia
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    JP LosmanJP Losman Raleigh Posts: 149

    I too am disappointed in the reaction

    RP112579 said:

    JP Losman said:

    RP112579 said:

    JP Losman said:

    If you do not have a photo ID and do not have a reasonable impediment to obtaining one, or you forgot to bring it with you to the polls, you may still vote a provisional ballot. However, for your vote to be counted you must provide one of the photo IDs to the county election commission prior to certification of the election (usually the Thursday or Friday after the election).


    You clearly are racist. There is severe voter suppression going on in SC and you keep defending it. No point in arguing with racists.

    Now you're calling people racist? Get a fucking grip, dude.
    i'm getting called dumb motherfucker by people trying to argue that SC doesn't have a voter ID law and that there is no voter suppression going on by the Republican party. Ok....
    You probably got called that a lot during Bills games when you threw an interception.
    #billsmafia
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    edited April 2016
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,570
    edited April 2016
    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    To be totally honest, i don't feel like the band should give a second thought to the travel expenses of those who booked non-refundable trips to attend their shows. I don't see that as the band's problem at all.

    You are aware that the bands success and longevity depends on a fanbase who passionately travels to see them, often multiple shows per tour, correct? And that pre-planning is involved in that process as well?
    I don't think their success and longevity depends on that small minority of fans who travel for shows. I think the people who travel for the shows are certainly the center of their own Pearl Jammy universe (not meant as an insult), but they aren't the center of the band's universe. Travelling to attend a show is entirely up to the fans and the decisions they make. PJ is not responsible for those decisions.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,570
    JP Losman said:

    and don't act like that having those Voter ID laws do not act as a deterrent. Its bad policy. Its intended to suppress the black vote. And its done so by the state government. Its disgusting.

    Now this I totally agree with you on................. why are we talking about Voter ID reform again?
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,570
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    whitepantswhitepants Posts: 723

    Logged on tonight (for the first time in a while) expecting to see PJ fans standing tall in solidarity with the band in its decision to cancel the show in North Carolina. Instead I've spent the last 20 minutes reading posts filled with anger, bitterness, insults, and otherwise (mostly) negative reactions to the decision.

    Look, I get it. You had tickets to a concert of a band you love and rarely get to see, and you're upset that you won't get to have that experience now (at least not for the time being). Some of you even traveled from some distance away and spent gobs of money on hotels, car rentals, flights, etc. It sucks. It really does. And I understand the disappointment.

    But you know what sucks worse? A bill that is disgustingly discriminatory and that threatens that rights of good people who are being treated like inferior citizens. A state government that feels that protecting basic rights is only important for citizens who it deems are worthy of its protection. A law that opens the door for bigots to get away with bigotry under full protection of a bigoted bill.
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    Amen! Amen!!!!!
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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,191
    PJ_Soul said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    To be totally honest, i don't feel like the band should give a second thought to the travel expenses of those who booked non-refundable trips to attend their shows. I don't see that as the band's problem at all.

    You are aware that the bands success and longevity depends on a fanbase who passionately travels to see them, often multiple shows per tour, correct? And that pre-planning is involved in that process as well?
    I don't think their success and longevity depends on that small minority of fans who travel for shows. I think the people who travel for the shows are certainly the center of their own Pearl Jammy universe (not meant as an insult), but they aren't the center of the band's universe. Travelling to attend a show is entirely up to the fans and the decisions they make. PJ is not responsible for those decisions.
    I resemble this remark.

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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,612
    I think that the "travelling fan" is a very significant portion of the fan base... In fact, every fan who I know/can think of has travelled a bunch to see them. Its not just this board either. 2 of my best friends in the 10c don't post and they are going all over this tour.

    Would it be off base to say that a show like Raleigh would have been 1/4 out of towners?
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