Pearl Jam Cancels 4/20 Raleigh, NC Concert in Opposition to HB2; Official Band Statement
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Absolutely! They know that people will be pissed for a little while but when new merch and tours are announced, these same people will be there front and center again.Noload said:From the band's POV, they have witnessed middle aged folks standing in line 4 or 5 hours for stickers...I'm sure they feel pretty Teflon. They know we aren't going anywhere
As most everyone has said I don't agree with the law, I wasn't planning to go to the show, but if you're going to do this you should've done it last week.0 -
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Agree fully! They could have done a lot of things to bring attention to this issue without fucking fans over. As someone posted in another thread, broadcast it live, put out a live ep, donate all proceeds to organizations worling against the law. But of course it's easier to just fuck your fans.october22 said:
This is complete bullshit. Play the show for your fans and say a few words if you want to bring attention to something. Otherwise, you're hypocritical for playing shows in any state or country where every law isn't exactly as you'd like it to be. But I guess they just couldn't resist the trendy freak-out over anything concerning LGBT at the moment.
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I'm sure the politicians and evangelicals are gutted that the libs aren't getting together. Probably shaking in their boots0
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It's a tough spot for them to be in.
Great show of support. Brutal for the fans- in particular, the ones who have travelled great distances to see them.
I think people are going to have to allow those affected most by this decision to vent. I'd be steamed if- given absolutely zero dates remotely near me- I went through great expense to see these guys and two days prior to the event... they make this announcement leaving me out of pocket and unable to recoup my losses (let alone a show I was dying to see).
I said it in the Bruce thread: play the show... unload on the bill... give proceeds to appropriate groups to combat the bill."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
what boot is it (I own it and cant remember) that Eddie does that incredible North Caroliiiiiinnnnnaaaa, north caroliiiinaaaa tag0
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nailed it!!!october22 said:. But I guess they just couldn't resist the trendy freak-out over anything concerning LGBT at the moment.
Bands are paid to play music...I know they are political and always have been, but since when it punishing a fan base that made you who you are beneficial to them? Without us Ed would still be pumping gas somewhere for minimum wagefall by the wayside said:Proud to be a fan of this band today. Ashamed to be a part of this fan base. I get it. I would be upset too. We all look so forward to these shows. But the selfishness and childishness is ridiculous. The band is not punishing you. You are collateral damage. It sucks. It's just that the band thinks the civil rights of others are more important than your concert. End story. It's also unfortunate to see tough life lessons being learned about purchasing non-refundable rooms and flights to an event that can very much be cancelled. Hopefully this law gets fixed and someday they come back and make everyone happy.
I have my own brain cells to be locked into social issues and don't need someone preaching to me or teaching me a lesson on what side to take especially rock bands
they should refund everyone who had hotels and air flights all their money backPost edited by pjalive21 on0 -
I support the band's decision to cancel the show, but they really shit the bed as far as timing goes. Maybe someone in the band just sobered up, but most of us have known about NC for some time. Why didn't they cancel when Bruce did? Ed and Bruce were hanging out around that time. Great idea but piss poor execution, PJ!
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You know what this post reminds me of? Politicians who pass discriminatory laws aimed at a small percentage of the population.AlaG said:While I feel bummed for all the peeps with non-refundable plane tickets and hotel bookings, you also need to recognize that you're in a very small percentage of the band's fanbase. I doubt when making these decisions, their first thought is - "but man, we'd really be screwing that .5% of our fanbase that travels nationwide to see us".
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Yeah it's totally a "take your ball and go home" sort of move.DischordVision said:WHAT REBELS!
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You might be a fan of the wrong band.pjalive21 said:I have my own brain cells to be locked into social issues and don't need someone preaching to me or teaching me a lesson on what side to take especially rock bands
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Another thoughtful, mature, and intelligent response.Post edited by Sea on0 -
This x1000000fall by the wayside said:Proud to be a fan of this band today. Ashamed to be a part of this fan base. I get it. I would be upset too. We all look so forward to these shows. But the selfishness and childishness is ridiculous. The band is not punishing you. You are collateral damage. It sucks. It's just that the band thinks the civil rights of others are more important than your concert. End story. It's also unfortunate to see tough life lessons being learned about purchasing non-refundable rooms and flights to an event that can very much be cancelled. Hopefully this law gets fixed and someday they come back and make everyone happy.
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ComeToTX said:
Bullshit!PJlive said:Sucks. But the people of North Carolina did this to themselves!!!
See you thursday. If you come to town Weds now lets get dinner and drinks.
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Serious question: how much does it cost a band like PJ to pull out of a show like this? There had to be some deposit or penalty by the venue.0
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Caitlyn for prez0
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By cancelling the performance, Pearl Jam had brought more attention to the issue than if they played and donated money
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2 days notice is garbage and all this did was fuck over fans of a band and the good people. This is a joke and really a poor decision.Drop The Leash!0
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