I think the amount of hate spewn towards Trump obliterates the amount of hate any other candidate has received.
I also think the vitriol he's received has been well deserved, however I'm not sure why those hurling hatred are surprised by return shots at their chosen candidates: seems par for the course.
I think the amount of hate spewn towards Trump obliterates the amount of hate any other candidate has received.
I also think the vitriol he's received has been well deserved, however I'm not sure why those hurling hatred are surprised by return shots at their chosen candidates: seems par for the course.
Oh, for sure. The DT is running on a platform of instigating hate.
As for vitriol hurled at Trump, the root of that vitriol is anger against the hatred. I don't want to bog this down in discussion in linguistics but one person spewing hatred outward is different that a lot of people spewing anger at the one who hates. Does that make sense?
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
I think the amount of hate spewn towards Trump obliterates the amount of hate any other candidate has received.
I also think the vitriol he's received has been well deserved, however I'm not sure why those hurling hatred are surprised by return shots at their chosen candidates: seems par for the course.
Oh, for sure. The DT is running on a platform of instigating hate.
As for vitriol hurled at Trump, the root of that vitriol is anger against the hatred. I don't want to bog this down in discussion in linguistics but one person spewing hatred outward is different that a lot of people spewing anger at the one who hates. Does that make sense?
To me it does. But for others... not so much. With this in mind... I get it.
people react like this is the first time a candidate as said something like: At a campaign event in Philadelphia in June 2008, Mr. Obama told supporters, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun. Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”
Later that year, as polls showed a close race between Mr. Obama and Republican nominee John McCain, Mr. Obama urged a crowd of about 1,500 at a campaign rally in Elko, Nevada, to get confrontational in their community for him.
“I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors,” Mr. Obama said. “I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.”
Are you really comparing that mild joke and the incitement to have conversations with Trump promising to pay the legal fees of supporters who assault protesters??
I see if someone you like says its OK. Good Stuff.
Bullshit. There is clearly a qualitative and quantitative difference in the statements. If you can't recognize the difference between a joke about a sports team and repeated calls for violence and praise of the violence you are entirely blinded by bias.
In neither case was Obama acting very presidential, but I am aghast that someone who considers themselves intelligent could fail to see the difference between a few poorly constructed remarks and more than a dozen direct mentions of actual violence at his rallies.
. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.”
Hating on one person or another - especially Bernie - seems to be the norm around here.
Especially Bernie - that is funny shit.
"Argue with them and get in their face" is equal to "knock the crap out of 'em, I will pay your legal fees" and "I miss the good old days...when they would be taken out on a stretcher"????
Bullshit. I don't believe that you actually think that, I think you are bitterly clinging to an idea that you know is pure fantasy. If not, then God help this country because unbiased, rational thought is becoming a thing of the past.
people react like this is the first time a candidate as said something like: At a campaign event in Philadelphia in June 2008, Mr. Obama told supporters, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun. Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”
Later that year, as polls showed a close race between Mr. Obama and Republican nominee John McCain, Mr. Obama urged a crowd of about 1,500 at a campaign rally in Elko, Nevada, to get confrontational in their community for him.
“I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors,” Mr. Obama said. “I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.”
Are you really comparing that mild joke and the incitement to have conversations with Trump promising to pay the legal fees of supporters who assault protesters??
I see if someone you like says its OK. Good Stuff.
Bullshit. There is clearly a qualitative and quantitative difference in the statements. If you can't recognize the difference between a joke about a sports team and repeated calls for violence and praise of the violence you are entirely blinded by bias.
In neither case was Obama acting very presidential, but I am aghast that someone who considers themselves intelligent could fail to see the difference between a few poorly constructed remarks and more than a dozen direct mentions of actual violence at his rallies.
. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.”
Hating on one person or another - especially Bernie - seems to be the norm around here.
Especially Bernie - that is funny shit.
"Argue with them and get in their face" is equal to "knock the crap out of 'em, I will pay your legal fees" and "I miss the good old days...when they would be taken out on a stretcher"????
Bullshit. I don't believe that you actually think that, I think you are bitterly clinging to an idea that you know is pure fantasy. If not, then God help this country because unbiased, rational thought is becoming a thing of the past.
thought is for them book lernin smart people.
yeee haww!!
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
This kind of thing is only going to get worse. How many here would celebrate if Trump supporters showed up at a Sanders rally in a similar effort? They would be widely condemned, correct? And they would deserve to be. This is not how our political process is supposed to unfold.
Drumpf has already threatened to do that. He would be personally responsible.
aahhh politics. Nasty shit happens behind the scenes but when it comes affront people are aghast. People don't like when others tell it like it is.
So you admit that the Trump protesters are telling it like it is? Is that why the Trump supporters are getting so mad?
If people went to protest at a Bernie rally, Bernie's supporters wouldn't attack them. But even if they did, Bernie would immediately condemn it, not support it.
He's even gone on record that he's glad Rahm hasn't endorsed him. Bernie's made it clear he's not a fan of DINOs.
If it was only liberals here, this would suck. We need the conservatives to make the forum interesting.
I'm not against conservatives, just those who refuse to go even slightly to the left of Fox News on any issue and there are a lot lately. Michael Steele is a great example of a sane conservative. Always look forward to him when he's on Bill Maher's show. I'm all for libertarians as well since I'm a third party (green) convert myself as long as they're not cafetaria types. Thanks for not stooping to PJfan's low. I wouldn't be super excited if Kasich or Rand became POTUS but it wouldn't drive me to contemplate moving out of here like Cruz or Drumpf or even Hillary ffs. I never even considered it for Romney.
There are many democrats like Hillary, Rahm and Harry Reid who I flat out hate as much as the right wing crazies.
I think that Trump will win the nomination, and that every single reasonable voter in the USA will go to polls in droves, not matter who he's running against, to ensure that the next POTUS isn't Donald Fucking Trump. I think that even plenty of moderate Republicans would way rather vote for Clinton than Trump.
My manager, who is CEO of our company, dislikes Obama (not like the irrational dislike, but nonetheless). He votes in FL. He is a Republican and he HATES Trump. I asked him if he was going to vote for Hillary and he doesn't know what he is doing. Either Hillary or staying home.
Have you told him Johnson is running as libertarian? I actually prefer him over Rand Paul to be honest.
So many haters on these forums... Rather then discuss things with an open mind, they just hate this, just hate that.
Free - disagreeing with someone is not synonymous with 'hating'. I know that's how it is in the pop culture today, but in the real world, it's disagreements. If someone calls you an idiot, stupid, asshole, etc. for your beliefs, well that's hating. But saying that Bernie doesn't have momentum, or that he doesn't have a real path forward is somewhere between opinion or sober analysis.
Ironically, they're the ones who hate and support hateful people like Drumpf and the Kartrashians.
So many haters on these forums... Rather then discuss things with an open mind, they just hate this, just hate that.
Free - disagreeing with someone is not synonymous with 'hating'. I know that's how it is in the pop culture today, but in the real world, it's disagreements. If someone calls you an idiot, stupid, asshole, etc. for your beliefs, well that's hating. But saying that Bernie doesn't have momentum, or that he doesn't have a real path forward is somewhere between opinion or sober analysis.
Ironically, they're the ones who hate and support hateful people like Drumpf and the Kartrashians.
I think that Trump will win the nomination, and that every single reasonable voter in the USA will go to polls in droves, not matter who he's running against, to ensure that the next POTUS isn't Donald Fucking Trump. I think that even plenty of moderate Republicans would way rather vote for Clinton than Trump.
My manager, who is CEO of our company, dislikes Obama (not like the irrational dislike, but nonetheless). He votes in FL. He is a Republican and he HATES Trump. I asked him if he was going to vote for Hillary and he doesn't know what he is doing. Either Hillary or staying home.
Have you told him Johnson is running as libertarian? I actually prefer him over Rand Paul to be honest.
I like Johnson. I didn't think he was running. But after Nader gave us Bush, I'm not voting third party.
This kind of thing is only going to get worse. How many here would celebrate if Trump supporters showed up at a Sanders rally in a similar effort? They would be widely condemned, correct? And they would deserve to be. This is not how our political process is supposed to unfold.
Drumpf has already threatened to do that. He would be personally responsible.
aahhh politics. Nasty shit happens behind the scenes but when it comes affront people are aghast. People don't like when others tell it like it is.
So you admit that the Trump protesters are telling it like it is? Is that why the Trump supporters are getting so mad?
If people went to protest at a Bernie rally, Bernie's supporters wouldn't attack them. But even if they did, Bernie would immediately condemn it, not support it.
He's even gone on record that he's glad Rahm hasn't endorsed him. Bernie's made it clear he's not a fan of DINOs.
DINO. ... that's trying to turn the party into the small tent, just like the right wing base has done. Aren't we smarter?
So many haters on these forums... Rather then discuss things with an open mind, they just hate this, just hate that.
Free - disagreeing with someone is not synonymous with 'hating'. I know that's how it is in the pop culture today, but in the real world, it's disagreements. If someone calls you an idiot, stupid, asshole, etc. for your beliefs, well that's hating. But saying that Bernie doesn't have momentum, or that he doesn't have a real path forward is somewhere between opinion or sober analysis.
Ironically, they're the ones who hate and support hateful people like Drumpf and the Kartrashians.
Who is the they, in your sentence?
I was just about to ask the same thing. I know I was one who said that Bernie doesn't have momentum and doesn't have an actual path to the nomination without Hillary imploding, but I am no Trump or Kardashian fan. I will be voting for Gary Johnson if he announces. I will not be voting for a major party presidential candidate this cycle (and haven't for years). So I have no dog in the major party nomination fight, and am just an interested observer of the process.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
So many haters on these forums... Rather then discuss things with an open mind, they just hate this, just hate that.
Free - disagreeing with someone is not synonymous with 'hating'. I know that's how it is in the pop culture today, but in the real world, it's disagreements. If someone calls you an idiot, stupid, asshole, etc. for your beliefs, well that's hating. But saying that Bernie doesn't have momentum, or that he doesn't have a real path forward is somewhere between opinion or sober analysis.
Ironically, they're the ones who hate and support hateful people like Drumpf and the Kartrashians.
Who is the they, in your sentence?
I was just about to ask the same thing. I know I was one who said that Bernie doesn't have momentum and doesn't have an actual path to the nomination without Hillary imploding, but I am no Trump or Kardashian fan. I will be voting for Gary Johnson if he announces. I will not be voting for a major party presidential candidate this cycle (and haven't for years). So I have no dog in the major party nomination fight, and am just an interested observer of the process.
I would totally vote for Johnson if he had a chance in hell. I've changed my strategy to voting for those that would do the most damage to both established parties so that people like Johnson may actually have a fighting chance in the future. The parties are going to have to dissolve somewhat for that to happen.
Hey 34, isn't it fun getting all the libbies panties in a bunch on here Aye? They really think they are making a difference stroking each other off all the time. You have been graced by all their favorite Libby rebuttals I see and the cherry on top is getting the , I can't believe conservatives love Pearl Jam music so much ...that's when you know you got-em. Keep up the good work and enjoy the show. I mostly play in the train taking dumps, so give it a shot...it's very relieving
haha
This is not so funny when I think about dumps and the problems my dad has he has a lump in his kidney that has to b see to now don't know why I even laughed at this comment....
"There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone."
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
I also think the vitriol he's received has been well deserved, however I'm not sure why those hurling hatred are surprised by return shots at their chosen candidates: seems par for the course.
Or is that if you point out who is being hateful you are a hatist
As for vitriol hurled at Trump, the root of that vitriol is anger against the hatred. I don't want to bog this down in discussion in linguistics but one person spewing hatred outward is different that a lot of people spewing anger at the one who hates. Does that make sense?
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Bullshit. I don't believe that you actually think that, I think you are bitterly clinging to an idea that you know is pure fantasy. If not, then God help this country because unbiased, rational thought is becoming a thing of the past.
yeee haww!!
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
A few Milkmen songs feature your typical Trump supporter as their protagonist.
Exhibit B
Martians. I swear to God."
LOL!!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
There are many democrats like Hillary, Rahm and Harry Reid who I flat out hate as much as the right wing crazies.
he has a lump in his kidney that has to b see to now don't know why I even laughed at this comment....
i can't wait to see how the establishment is going to screw over trump. it is going to be great.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."