I understand, no one wants to walk around with a sign on their forehead reading "I'm a Racist Bigot"... so i get it. These few show their true selves hiding behind a keyboard in a fantasy world.
Oh rustneversleeps, if only you were at the RNDM show last night. Something tells me you would have liked the "f@ck Trump" song...
Bernie supporters will vote for Hillary instead, duh. They may not like it, but it's not like they're going to turn around and vote for Trump just because Bernie didn't win.
I plan to write in a third-party nomination. Will not vote for Hillary.
Even if Bernie drops out after the DNC, he can still run as an Independent.
Oh, they were still there when I commented.
Yeah, has Bernie said anything about that at any time? I guess maybe that wouldn't be a good idea, but perhaps he let something slip. But okay, if Bernie didn't do that, and there weren't other options, wouldn't you vote for Hillary over no one? If too many people don't vote or write in a third option, Trump could win by default. Wouldn't Americans want to vote strategically to make sure Trump didn't win?? It would seem illogical not to. I don't care how much a person dislikes Hillary.... no Democrat or any one else left of Mussolini could say Trump would be better.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Even if Bernie drops out after the DNC, he can still run as an Independent.
Oh, they were still there when I commented.
Yeah, has Bernie said anything about that at any time? I guess maybe that wouldn't be a good idea, but perhaps he let something slip. But okay, if Bernie didn't do that, and there weren't other options, wouldn't you vote for Hillary over no one? If too many people don't vote or write in a third option, Trump could win by default. Wouldn't Americans want to vote strategically to make sure Trump didn't win?? It would seem illogical not to. I don't care how much a person dislikes Hillary.... no Democrat or any one else left of Mussolini could say Trump would be better.
I saw the unnecessary quotes and I deleted them.
To you and Russell - have you not been paying attention to the massive crowds and donations pouring into Bernie? If he ran as an independent after losing to Hillary he still has all that support.
I have been against Hillary since the get-go. I will be writing in a name at election time then vote for her. She and the corrupt DNC represents everything that's wrong with this country aside from Donald Drumpf
Even if Bernie drops out after the DNC, he can still run as an Independent.
Oh, they were still there when I commented.
Yeah, has Bernie said anything about that at any time? I guess maybe that wouldn't be a good idea, but perhaps he let something slip. But okay, if Bernie didn't do that, and there weren't other options, wouldn't you vote for Hillary over no one? If too many people don't vote or write in a third option, Trump could win by default. Wouldn't Americans want to vote strategically to make sure Trump didn't win?? It would seem illogical not to. I don't care how much a person dislikes Hillary.... no Democrat or any one else left of Mussolini could say Trump would be better.
I saw the unnecessary quotes and I deleted them.
To you and Russell - have you not been paying attention to the massive crowds and donations pouring into Bernie? If he ran as an independent after losing to Hillary he still has all that support.
I have been against Hillary since the get-go. I will be writing in a name at election time then vote for her. She and the corrupt DNC represents everything that's wrong with this country aside from Donald Drumpf
Not sure why you're posing that question to me. I 100% think that Bernie could run as an independent. I'm just talking hypotheticals in case he doesn't decide to do that. At the same time, I think that would split the left vote and Trump would almost certainly win. Yes Bernie would have all the support but it wouldn't be as much as Trump would have without a conservative independent running along side him. If Bernie keeps going if he loses, the US is likely fucked. Which is a real shame. I wish more Hillary supporters would just move to Bernie so he could beat her. Obviously.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Even if Bernie drops out after the DNC, he can still run as an Independent.
Oh, they were still there when I commented.
Yeah, has Bernie said anything about that at any time? I guess maybe that wouldn't be a good idea, but perhaps he let something slip. But okay, if Bernie didn't do that, and there weren't other options, wouldn't you vote for Hillary over no one? If too many people don't vote or write in a third option, Trump could win by default. Wouldn't Americans want to vote strategically to make sure Trump didn't win?? It would seem illogical not to. I don't care how much a person dislikes Hillary.... no Democrat or any one else left of Mussolini could say Trump would be better.
I saw the unnecessary quotes and I deleted them.
To you and Russell - have you not been paying attention to the massive crowds and donations pouring into Bernie? If he ran as an independent after losing to Hillary he still has all that support.
I have been against Hillary since the get-go. I will be writing in a name at election time then vote for her. She and the corrupt DNC represents everything that's wrong with this country aside from Donald Drumpf
Not sure why you're posing that question to me. I 100% think that Bernie could run as an independent. I'm just talking hypotheticals in case he doesn't decide to do that. At the same time, I think that would split the left vote and Trump would almost certainly win. Yes Bernie would have all the support but it wouldn't be as much as Trump would have without a conservative independent running along side him. If Bernie keeps going if he loses, the US is likely fucked. Which is a real shame. I wish more Hillary supporters would just move to Bernie so he could beat her. Obviously.
If you are going to speak in hypotheticals you should hypothetically state so. It is confusing sometimes when you post and then within a minute add an entire paragraph edit.
I doubt Bernie would go through this long slog of a primary only to turn around and run as an independent.
To turn and run is to quit and he said already he's not quitting. He's got too much momentum.
Dude.. 0 for 5 last night including big losses in three purple states is not momentum. You are kidding yourself. "Massive crowds and donations" has not translated to votes. In all of the swing states thus far, save Michigan, Clinton has won handily.
I doubt Bernie would go through this long slog of a primary only to turn around and run as an independent.
To turn and run is to quit and he said already he's not quitting. He's got too much momentum.
Admitting defeat when the time comes isn't quitting.
There isn't any reason to go through a Democratic primary if you are going to run as an independent. Also kind of a slap in the face to the large numbers of Democrats who have supported him.
Even if Bernie drops out after the DNC, he can still run as an Independent.
Oh, they were still there when I commented.
Yeah, has Bernie said anything about that at any time? I guess maybe that wouldn't be a good idea, but perhaps he let something slip. But okay, if Bernie didn't do that, and there weren't other options, wouldn't you vote for Hillary over no one? If too many people don't vote or write in a third option, Trump could win by default. Wouldn't Americans want to vote strategically to make sure Trump didn't win?? It would seem illogical not to. I don't care how much a person dislikes Hillary.... no Democrat or any one else left of Mussolini could say Trump would be better.
I saw the unnecessary quotes and I deleted them.
To you and Russell - have you not been paying attention to the massive crowds and donations pouring into Bernie? If he ran as an independent after losing to Hillary he still has all that support.
I have been against Hillary since the get-go. I will be writing in a name at election time then vote for her. She and the corrupt DNC represents everything that's wrong with this country aside from Donald Drumpf
Not sure why you're posing that question to me. I 100% think that Bernie could run as an independent. I'm just talking hypotheticals in case he doesn't decide to do that. At the same time, I think that would split the left vote and Trump would almost certainly win. Yes Bernie would have all the support but it wouldn't be as much as Trump would have without a conservative independent running along side him. If Bernie keeps going if he loses, the US is likely fucked. Which is a real shame. I wish more Hillary supporters would just move to Bernie so he could beat her. Obviously.
If you are going to speak in hypotheticals you should hypothetically state so. It is confusing sometimes when you post and then within a minute add an entire paragraph edit.
What would it be other than a hypothetical?? God knows my main focus is making sure I don't confuse you, lol.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
We're off thread topic talking about Bernie here. (Although I will say this: It's not over for Bernie!)
Please explain the viable strategy.
Basically, tell your supporters not to listen to the negative talk, keep the donations coming in, get the vote out, and work toward your positive goal. It's actually quite amazing what can be done if enough people work hard. I'm not quitting.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
There's no reason to abandon the Bernie ship at this point. Yes, winning is a long shot but that's not the point really. A few months ago nobody expected this to be a race but Bernie's ideas have resonated with a lot of Americans and that is the point. Maybe it's too soon for a Bernie Presidency but we're not far away from a like minded individual possibly winning in the future. I think the most positive outcome is the breaking down the prejudice that Bernie wants to turn us into the Soviet Union just because he is a democratic socialist. I think because of his run a lot of people on both sides have realized for the first time that our country is filled with socialist programs that benefit all of our citizens. Edit: I guess this should have been posted in the Bernie thread.
Did these protestors chant "Bernie Sanders" in the venue after shutting down a political opponent's right to free speech? Did the voters in five states look at that and see a glimpse of what the "revolution" may look like? Did those same voters completely reject the Sanders candidacy just four days later?
This was a bad episode in the long slog of the Bernie Sanders campaign. While it may turn out Michigan was the high water mark, Chicago may be remembered as the beginning of the end.
I doubt Bernie would go through this long slog of a primary only to turn around and run as an independent.
To turn and run is to quit and he said already he's not quitting. He's got too much momentum.
Admitting defeat when the time comes isn't quitting.
There isn't any reason to go through a Democratic primary if you are going to run as an independent. Also kind of a slap in the face to the large numbers of Democrats who have supported him.
Did these protestors chant "Bernie Sanders" in the venue after shutting down a political opponent's right to free speech? Did the voters in five states look at that and see a glimpse of what the "revolution" may look like? Did those same voters completely reject the Sanders candidacy just four days later?
This was a bad episode in the long slog of the Bernie Sanders campaign. While it may turn out Michigan was the high water mark, Chicago may be remembered as the beginning of the end.
Like I said haters going to hate. This is pure bullshit what you write above.
I doubt Bernie would go through this long slog of a primary only to turn around and run as an independent.
To turn and run is to quit and he said already he's not quitting. He's got too much momentum.
Admitting defeat when the time comes isn't quitting.
There isn't any reason to go through a Democratic primary if you are going to run as an independent. Also kind of a slap in the face to the large numbers of Democrats who have supported him.
Did these protestors chant "Bernie Sanders" in the venue after shutting down a political opponent's right to free speech? Did the voters in five states look at that and see a glimpse of what the "revolution" may look like? Did those same voters completely reject the Sanders candidacy just four days later?
This was a bad episode in the long slog of the Bernie Sanders campaign. While it may turn out Michigan was the high water mark, Chicago may be remembered as the beginning of the end.
Like I said haters going to hate. This is pure bullshit what you write above.
Yeah let's talk about Trump since now he has threaten the GOP stablishement with riots in the streets if he doesn't get the nod , this prick is a thug !!
I doubt Bernie would go through this long slog of a primary only to turn around and run as an independent.
To turn and run is to quit and he said already he's not quitting. He's got too much momentum.
Admitting defeat when the time comes isn't quitting.
There isn't any reason to go through a Democratic primary if you are going to run as an independent. Also kind of a slap in the face to the large numbers of Democrats who have supported him.
Did these protestors chant "Bernie Sanders" in the venue after shutting down a political opponent's right to free speech? Did the voters in five states look at that and see a glimpse of what the "revolution" may look like? Did those same voters completely reject the Sanders candidacy just four days later?
This was a bad episode in the long slog of the Bernie Sanders campaign. While it may turn out Michigan was the high water mark, Chicago may be remembered as the beginning of the end.
Like I said haters going to hate. This is pure bullshit what you write above.
Pure bullshit. OK.
Not only is it bullshit but I have proving you're wrong for weeks about the election and you just keep coming back for more with more hate and more disinformation. It's redundant now I'm done.
Why don't you go back to your ever predictable polls and math that you're so certain that's accurate in predicting the next president.
I doubt Bernie would go through this long slog of a primary only to turn around and run as an independent.
To turn and run is to quit and he said already he's not quitting. He's got too much momentum.
Admitting defeat when the time comes isn't quitting.
There isn't any reason to go through a Democratic primary if you are going to run as an independent. Also kind of a slap in the face to the large numbers of Democrats who have supported him.
Did these protestors chant "Bernie Sanders" in the venue after shutting down a political opponent's right to free speech? Did the voters in five states look at that and see a glimpse of what the "revolution" may look like? Did those same voters completely reject the Sanders candidacy just four days later?
This was a bad episode in the long slog of the Bernie Sanders campaign. While it may turn out Michigan was the high water mark, Chicago may be remembered as the beginning of the end.
Like I said haters going to hate. This is pure bullshit what you write above.
Pure bullshit. OK.
Not only is it bullshit but I have proving you're wrong for weeks about the election and you just keep coming back for more with more hate and more disinformation. It's redundant now I'm done.
I doubt Bernie would go through this long slog of a primary only to turn around and run as an independent.
To turn and run is to quit and he said already he's not quitting. He's got too much momentum.
Admitting defeat when the time comes isn't quitting.
There isn't any reason to go through a Democratic primary if you are going to run as an independent. Also kind of a slap in the face to the large numbers of Democrats who have supported him.
Did these protestors chant "Bernie Sanders" in the venue after shutting down a political opponent's right to free speech? Did the voters in five states look at that and see a glimpse of what the "revolution" may look like? Did those same voters completely reject the Sanders candidacy just four days later?
This was a bad episode in the long slog of the Bernie Sanders campaign. While it may turn out Michigan was the high water mark, Chicago may be remembered as the beginning of the end.
Like I said haters going to hate. This is pure bullshit what you write above.
Pure bullshit. OK.
Not only is it bullshit but I have proving you're wrong for weeks about the election and you just keep coming back for more with more hate and more disinformation. It's redundant now I'm done.
Yep, pure bullshit. Got it.
What part is disinformation?
What part is hate?
I voted for Bernie. That doesn't mean I am incapable of being honest about the state of his campaign.
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Even if Bernie drops out after the DNC, he can still run as an Independent.
Yeah, has Bernie said anything about that at any time? I guess maybe that wouldn't be a good idea, but perhaps he let something slip.
But okay, if Bernie didn't do that, and there weren't other options, wouldn't you vote for Hillary over no one? If too many people don't vote or write in a third option, Trump could win by default. Wouldn't Americans want to vote strategically to make sure Trump didn't win?? It would seem illogical not to. I don't care how much a person dislikes Hillary.... no Democrat or any one else left of Mussolini could say Trump would be better.
To you and Russell - have you not been paying attention to the massive crowds and donations pouring into Bernie? If he ran as an independent after losing to Hillary he still has all that support.
I have been against Hillary since the get-go. I will be writing in a name at election time then vote for her. She and the corrupt DNC represents everything that's wrong with this country aside from Donald Drumpf
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
It is confusing sometimes when you post and then within a minute add an entire paragraph edit.
There isn't any reason to go through a Democratic primary if you are going to run as an independent. Also kind of a slap in the face to the large numbers of Democrats who have supported him.
I don't see Bernie doing that.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
God knows my main focus is making sure I don't confuse you, lol.
Edit: I guess this should have been posted in the Bernie thread.
This was a bad episode in the long slog of the Bernie Sanders campaign. While it may turn out Michigan was the high water mark, Chicago may be remembered as the beginning of the end.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Why don't you go back to your ever predictable polls and math that you're so certain that's accurate in predicting the next president.
What part is disinformation?
What part is hate?
I voted for Bernie. That doesn't mean I am incapable of being honest about the state of his campaign.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."