2016 Republican Presidential Candidates.

JC29856

Rubio tonight bended over and grabbed his ankles for the Israel aipac vote

Gern Blansten

JC29856 said:

Soc sec payments come from workers wages capped at 6 figures for the wealthy. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that when the jobs leave so do the payments into soc sec. Why don't I hear any of these genius lift the soc sec cap?

Sanders wants to lift the cap. He's been saying that for years. It's the obvious solution to funding social security.

If 99% of American's pay 6.2% of their wages to social security why shouldn't the remaining 1%?

Gern Blansten

I loved Trump's pandering to Jews....he loves Israel, he has friends that are Israeli and/or Jewish, his friends love Israel...he was the grand poobah of the Israel parade, etc.

JC29856

Gern Blansten said:

JC29856 said:

Soc sec payments come from workers wages capped at 6 figures for the wealthy. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that when the jobs leave so do the payments into soc sec. Why don't I hear any of these genius lift the soc sec cap?

Sanders wants to lift the cap. He's been saying that for years. It's the obvious solution to funding social security.

If 99% of American's pay 6.2% of their wages to social security why shouldn't the remaining 1%?

Yeah I was referring to the clowns last night. I'm sure there are a hell of alot of citizens that make more than $118k. Ridiculous that there it's a cap! Hell make the cap $10M if you need to pander to the Trumps and Clintons of the US. Total joke.

Indifference

JC29856 said:

Gern Blansten said:

JC29856 said:

Soc sec payments come from workers wages capped at 6 figures for the wealthy. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that when the jobs leave so do the payments into soc sec. Why don't I hear any of these genius lift the soc sec cap?

Sanders wants to lift the cap. He's been saying that for years. It's the obvious solution to funding social security.

If 99% of American's pay 6.2% of their wages to social security why shouldn't the remaining 1%?

Yeah I was referring to the clowns last night. I'm sure there are a hell of alot of citizens that make more than $118k. Ridiculous that there it's a cap! Hell make the cap $10M if you need to pander to the Trumps and Clintons of the US. Total joke.

There is a cap because there is a cap on benefits.

Indifference

Indifference said:

JC29856 said:

Gern Blansten said:

JC29856 said:

Soc sec payments come from workers wages capped at 6 figures for the wealthy. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that when the jobs leave so do the payments into soc sec. Why don't I hear any of these genius lift the soc sec cap?

Sanders wants to lift the cap. He's been saying that for years. It's the obvious solution to funding social security.

If 99% of American's pay 6.2% of their wages to social security why shouldn't the remaining 1%?

Yeah I was referring to the clowns last night. I'm sure there are a hell of alot of citizens that make more than $118k. Ridiculous that there it's a cap! Hell make the cap $10M if you need to pander to the Trumps and Clintons of the US. Total joke.

There is a cap because there is a cap on benefits. Otherwise its not paying into a system you get benefits for its just a straight tax.

JC29856

Indifference said:

JC29856 said:

Gern Blansten said:

JC29856 said:

Soc sec payments come from workers wages capped at 6 figures for the wealthy. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that when the jobs leave so do the payments into soc sec. Why don't I hear any of these genius lift the soc sec cap?

Sanders wants to lift the cap. He's been saying that for years. It's the obvious solution to funding social security.

If 99% of American's pay 6.2% of their wages to social security why shouldn't the remaining 1%?

Yeah I was referring to the clowns last night. I'm sure there are a hell of alot of citizens that make more than $118k. Ridiculous that there it's a cap! Hell make the cap $10M if you need to pander to the Trumps and Clintons of the US. Total joke.

There is a cap because there is a cap on benefits.

Okay...what's the cap on benefits? The most an individual would pay a year is around $7670

JimmyV

Rubio campaign urging their Ohio supporters to vote for Kasich.

Indifference

JC29856 said:

Indifference said:

JC29856 said:

Gern Blansten said:

JC29856 said:

Soc sec payments come from workers wages capped at 6 figures for the wealthy. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that when the jobs leave so do the payments into soc sec. Why don't I hear any of these genius lift the soc sec cap?

Sanders wants to lift the cap. He's been saying that for years. It's the obvious solution to funding social security.

If 99% of American's pay 6.2% of their wages to social security why shouldn't the remaining 1%?

Yeah I was referring to the clowns last night. I'm sure there are a hell of alot of citizens that make more than $118k. Ridiculous that there it's a cap! Hell make the cap $10M if you need to pander to the Trumps and Clintons of the US. Total joke.

There is a cap because there is a cap on benefits.

Okay...what's the cap on benefits? The most an individual would pay a year is around $7670

JC29856 said:

Indifference said:

JC29856 said:

Gern Blansten said:

JC29856 said:

Soc sec payments come from workers wages capped at 6 figures for the wealthy. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that when the jobs leave so do the payments into soc sec. Why don't I hear any of these genius lift the soc sec cap?

Sanders wants to lift the cap. He's been saying that for years. It's the obvious solution to funding social security.

If 99% of American's pay 6.2% of their wages to social security why shouldn't the remaining 1%?

Yeah I was referring to the clowns last night. I'm sure there are a hell of alot of citizens that make more than $118k. Ridiculous that there it's a cap! Hell make the cap $10M if you need to pander to the Trumps and Clintons of the US. Total joke.

There is a cap because there is a cap on benefits.

Okay...what's the cap on benefits? The most an individual would pay a year is around $7670

Huh? If you lift the cap and someone makes a million dollars then their SS tax is $62,000 if your the business owner its $124,000. If someone makes a million a year or more (say PJ members) what % should they be able to keep?

Indifference

Gern Blansten said:

JC29856 said:

Soc sec payments come from workers wages capped at 6 figures for the wealthy. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that when the jobs leave so do the payments into soc sec. Why don't I hear any of these genius lift the soc sec cap?

Sanders wants to lift the cap. He's been saying that for years. It's the obvious solution to funding social security.

If 99% of American's pay 6.2% of their wages to social security why shouldn't the remaining 1%?

They do!

PJ_Soul

I really think it's stupid how long the campaigns for the primaries go on for. Utterly ridiculous. Irresponsible, even. IMO, the length of the primary battles creates voter apathy. I mean seriously, how sick of this shit is everyone? And the actual Presidential campaigns haven't even started yet.

JimmyV

I love it but I am a big nerd.

PJ_Soul

JimmyV said:

I love it but I am a big nerd.

That's so funny - I just described myself as a huge nerd to a co-worker who expressed interest in the fact that I seem to know an unusual amount about Canadian and US politics, lol. Yeah, I mean, I need to know everything that's happening, so it's not like I stop paying attention.... but I find it vexing at this point, and much less fun. It's too much for too long IMO (and all this was preceded by 3 months of a federal election up here north of the border too. I'm burning out!).

JC29856

Indifference said:

JC29856 said:

Indifference said:

JC29856 said:

Gern Blansten said:

JC29856 said:

Soc sec payments come from workers wages capped at 6 figures for the wealthy. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that when the jobs leave so do the payments into soc sec. Why don't I hear any of these genius lift the soc sec cap?

Sanders wants to lift the cap. He's been saying that for years. It's the obvious solution to funding social security.

If 99% of American's pay 6.2% of their wages to social security why shouldn't the remaining 1%?

Yeah I was referring to the clowns last night. I'm sure there are a hell of alot of citizens that make more than $118k. Ridiculous that there it's a cap! Hell make the cap $10M if you need to pander to the Trumps and Clintons of the US. Total joke.

There is a cap because there is a cap on benefits.

Okay...what's the cap on benefits? The most an individual would pay a year is around $7670

JC29856 said:

Indifference said:

JC29856 said:

Gern Blansten said:

JC29856 said:

Soc sec payments come from workers wages capped at 6 figures for the wealthy. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that when the jobs leave so do the payments into soc sec. Why don't I hear any of these genius lift the soc sec cap?

Sanders wants to lift the cap. He's been saying that for years. It's the obvious solution to funding social security.

If 99% of American's pay 6.2% of their wages to social security why shouldn't the remaining 1%?

Yeah I was referring to the clowns last night. I'm sure there are a hell of alot of citizens that make more than $118k. Ridiculous that there it's a cap! Hell make the cap $10M if you need to pander to the Trumps and Clintons of the US. Total joke.

There is a cap because there is a cap on benefits.

Okay...what's the cap on benefits? The most an individual would pay a year is around $7670

Huh? If you lift the cap and someone makes a million dollars then their SS tax is $62,000 if your the business owner its $124,000. If someone makes a million a year or more (say PJ members) what % should they be able to keep?

I didn't ask the question properly and I'm dropping the point I was going to make that compares current inflows and current outflows.

Personally I wouldn't mind paying an additional $55k for retired folks. My employer may cut my salary based on that additional tax, either way my salary and the taxes are tax deductible.

brianlux

What do you suppose would be revealed if one of the more reputable (yeah, I know, is there one?) polling organizations took a poll of all registered Republicans and asked these questions:

1. What is your main reason for supporting the candidate of your choice?
[I want to know what it is Republicans who support Trump really expect he would do for this country.]

2. Do you really take this year's Republican candidate selection seriously or have you just blown it off because you don't find any of the candidates in the running to be worth putting any serious effort behind?
[Yes, another theory of mine: Republicans know it's a lost cause and recognize that their party is badly broken down and fractured so they want to make some noise why they can.]

hedonist

But there are other parties too, B.

I'd like those (quite valid of yours) questions to be asked of all registered voters.

Then again, fuck polls

InHiding80

It's as if Drumpf has become Martin Sheen at the end of The Dead Zone with the cancellation of the rally.

"It's over."

PJfanwillneverleave1

brianlux said:

What do you suppose would be revealed if one of the more reputable (yeah, I know, is there one?) polling organizations took a poll of all registered Republicans and asked these questions:

1. What is your main reason for supporting the candidate of your choice?
[I want to know what it is Republicans who support Trump really expect he would do for this country.]

2. Do you really take this year's Republican candidate selection seriously or have you just blown it off because you don't find any of the candidates in the running to be worth putting any serious effort behind?
[Yes, another theory of mine: Republicans know it's a lost cause and recognize that their party is badly broken down and fractured so they want to make some noise why they can.]

1. I would say that since americans will be choosing between Hilary and Trump in November (Bernie who?) they will vote trump because they at least know what they are getting. Both have pipe dreams (Hilary wishes things will get better if we all hold hands a little tighter and trump will build a wall paid for by Mexicans. Which one sounds more loony?

2. Bernie or Hilary, really? Of course she is winning - she is running against Bernie, It's bernie, come on.
Repubs are the only chance of not having 4more years of a Clinton. - unless that's what americans really want.

brianlux

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

brianlux said:

What do you suppose would be revealed if one of the more reputable (yeah, I know, is there one?) polling organizations took a poll of all registered Republicans and asked these questions:

1. What is your main reason for supporting the candidate of your choice?
[I want to know what it is Republicans who support Trump really expect he would do for this country.]

2. Do you really take this year's Republican candidate selection seriously or have you just blown it off because you don't find any of the candidates in the running to be worth putting any serious effort behind?
[Yes, another theory of mine: Republicans know it's a lost cause and recognize that their party is badly broken down and fractured so they want to make some noise why they can.]

1. I would say that since americans will be choosing between Hilary and Trump in November (Bernie who?) they will vote trump because they at least know what they are getting. Both have pipe dreams (Hilary wishes things will get better if we all hold hands a little tighter and trump will build a wall paid for by Mexicans. Which one sounds more loony?

2. Bernie or Hilary, really? Of course she is winning - she is running against Bernie, It's bernie, come on.
Repubs are the only chance of not having 4more years of a Clinton. - unless that's what americans really want.

1. Sanders (not Worrell ) is very concrete and specific on what he wants to do. Not sure how that looks like a pipe dream to you.

2. No way is Sanders out of the running.

Free

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

brianlux said:

What do you suppose would be revealed if one of the more reputable (yeah, I know, is there one?) polling organizations took a poll of all registered Republicans and asked these questions:

1. What is your main reason for supporting the candidate of your choice?
[I want to know what it is Republicans who support Trump really expect he would do for this country.]

2. Do you really take this year's Republican candidate selection seriously or have you just blown it off because you don't find any of the candidates in the running to be worth putting any serious effort behind?
[Yes, another theory of mine: Republicans know it's a lost cause and recognize that their party is badly broken down and fractured so they want to make some noise why they can.]

1. I would say that since americans will be choosing between Hilary and Trump in November (Bernie who?) they will vote trump because they at least know what they are getting. Both have pipe dreams (Hilary wishes things will get better if we all hold hands a little tighter and trump will build a wall paid for by Mexicans. Which one sounds more loony?

2. Bernie or Hilary, really? Of course she is winning - she is running against Bernie, It's bernie, come on.
Repubs are the only chance of not having 4more years of a Clinton. - unless that's what americans really want.

It's delusional and clearly denial to still think that Bernie does not have a solid chance, voters have been making and will continue to donate and vote for him, not Hillary. Her supporters are the ones not voting, they must think she's a shoe-in which is showing to not actually happen.