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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,396

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-golf-course-sea-wall-global-warming

    Another lie....Trump believes in global warming yet tells his sheepish followers that it's BS

    Drumpf will do interviews where he acknowledges that the sun sets in the west. But, when speaking to his sycophants, he'll say it sets in the east and that Hillary Clinton will try to take the sun away from you.
  • inmyNC
    inmyNC amongst many Posts: 243
    edited May 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    One thing Trump has consistently done this entire campaign is demonstrate that his opponents are weak and only a matter of time before each one would fall.
    Also you could say that many, many Americans will vote for him as POTUS.
    Something that can't be said of Sanders and only a little with Hillary.

    what can't be said for sanders and hillary? that many many americans won't vote for either one of them?

    sanders kills trump in the polls. hillary is very close to trump.

    the only way the dems lose this election is if they do not show up to vote.
    Trump closed the gap with Hillary because he consolidated the R vote. That hasn't happened on the Dem side yet. Hillary's voters would never say "undecided or Trump" in the hypothetical Sanders V Trump match. However, Sanders voters will still say that. Once Bernie officially drops and endorses Hillary (which I believe he will do if he hopes to leverage his influence in the Senate), then I think the gap will widen again.
    For what its worth, if Sanders drops out and endorses Clinton , I think it will be detrimental to her campaign. I think Hillary is a more centered democrat and taking an endorsement from Sanders will pull her more left. This will push independents towards the right.. Independents will elect the next president..
    Post edited by inmyNC on
  • http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-golf-course-sea-wall-global-warming

    Another lie....Trump believes in global warming yet tells his sheepish followers that it's BS

    Drumpf will do interviews where he acknowledges that the sun sets in the west. But, when speaking to his sycophants, he'll say it sets in the east and that Hillary Clinton will try to take the sun away from you.
    Yes.
    Trump will do interviews where the truth is acknowledged and then throw in a few bones for his opponents.
    The facts and half-truths mix and eventually you build a fanbase.
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    inmyNC said:

    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    One thing Trump has consistently done this entire campaign is demonstrate that his opponents are weak and only a matter of time before each one would fall.
    Also you could say that many, many Americans will vote for him as POTUS.
    Something that can't be said of Sanders and only a little with Hillary.

    what can't be said for sanders and hillary? that many many americans won't vote for either one of them?

    sanders kills trump in the polls. hillary is very close to trump.

    the only way the dems lose this election is if they do not show up to vote.
    Trump closed the gap with Hillary because he consolidated the R vote. That hasn't happened on the Dem side yet. Hillary's voters would never say "undecided or Trump" in the hypothetical Sanders V Trump match. However, Sanders voters will still say that. Once Bernie officially drops and endorses Hillary (which I believe he will do if he hopes to leverage his influence in the Senate), then I think the gap will widen again.
    For what its worth, if Sanders drops out and endorses Clinton , I think it will be detrimental to her campaign. I think Hillary is a more centered democrat and taking an endorsement from Sanders will pull her more left. This will push independents towards the right.. Independents will elect the next president..
    Good post.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,551
    inmyNC said:

    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    One thing Trump has consistently done this entire campaign is demonstrate that his opponents are weak and only a matter of time before each one would fall.
    Also you could say that many, many Americans will vote for him as POTUS.
    Something that can't be said of Sanders and only a little with Hillary.

    what can't be said for sanders and hillary? that many many americans won't vote for either one of them?

    sanders kills trump in the polls. hillary is very close to trump.

    the only way the dems lose this election is if they do not show up to vote.
    Trump closed the gap with Hillary because he consolidated the R vote. That hasn't happened on the Dem side yet. Hillary's voters would never say "undecided or Trump" in the hypothetical Sanders V Trump match. However, Sanders voters will still say that. Once Bernie officially drops and endorses Hillary (which I believe he will do if he hopes to leverage his influence in the Senate), then I think the gap will widen again.
    For what its worth, if Sanders drops out and endorses Clinton , I think it will be detrimental to her campaign. I think Hillary is a more centered democrat and taking an endorsement from Sanders will pull her more left. This will push independents towards the right.. Independents will elect the next president..
    Your discounting the minority vote Trump does not get it , women , blacks , Spanish , Muslims yes there are a bunch that can vote , gay community all will vote for Clinton
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    we'll see.

    Godfather.
  • inmyNC
    inmyNC amongst many Posts: 243
    I'm undecided ... Last election I wrote in Ron Paul. This election I'm on the fence. I look at Hillary Clinton and have dug to find her legislative proposals , looked for her successes in foreign policies, searched for something that showed she hasn't spent the last years warming a cozy leather desk chair. I haven't found anything that that can be deemed impressive. She seemed to sit idly by as GW Bush pulled the nation into war and sent our nations debt out of control. Bush isn't the only pres to hold blame for that. On a personal note I am struggling to find a reason to support her. I will not cast a vote for someone just so another candidate has less of chance. Then there's Trump. Brash ,arrogant, and certainly has bullying persona. Has he been racist? Well from what I've seen and listened to he certainly has danced on that fence. If you think he is a racist, and he wins the election , do you think he can actually take away rights away of those he has been racist towards? I would think not. Politically speaking he seems to very different then Republicans. He doesn't bring religion into his politics. He talks about hitting big outsourcing companies with tax fines. In my opinion this is good. Something neither republicans or democrats have failed to really address. Immigration is tough point. There are immigration laws in this country but they seem to get sidetracked when enforcing them. I believe anyone has the right to be a citizen of this country. We are the melting pot. This makes us a great country but there are procedures to becoming a citizen that are disregarded. Yes Trump is over the top with his speeches. Many of his personal views are no where close to mine. I personally don't care what his personal views are. I care if he can make a change. With Hillary I don't see change. With Sanders I see some good ideas but no chance of him taking the democratic lead. With Trump I see a viscious struggle but maybe ,just maybe with Trump we may be witness to a stronger third party uprising. Green party, Libertarians? There needs to be more choices and directions. Still on the fence!
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    inmyNC said:

    I'm undecided ... Last election I wrote in Ron Paul. This election I'm on the fence. I look at Hillary Clinton and have dug to find her legislative proposals , looked for her successes in foreign policies, searched for something that showed she hasn't spent the last years warming a cozy leather desk chair. I haven't found anything that that can be deemed impressive. She seemed to sit idly by as GW Bush pulled the nation into war and sent our nations debt out of control. Bush isn't the only pres to hold blame for that. On a personal note I am struggling to find a reason to support her. I will not cast a vote for someone just so another candidate has less of chance. Then there's Trump. Brash ,arrogant, and certainly has bullying persona. Has he been racist? Well from what I've seen and listened to he certainly has danced on that fence. If you think he is a racist, and he wins the election , do you think he can actually take away rights away of those he has been racist towards? I would think not. Politically speaking he seems to very different then Republicans. He doesn't bring religion into his politics. He talks about hitting big outsourcing companies with tax fines. In my opinion this is good. Something neither republicans or democrats have failed to really address. Immigration is tough point. There are immigration laws in this country but they seem to get sidetracked when enforcing them. I believe anyone has the right to be a citizen of this country. We are the melting pot. This makes us a great country but there are procedures to becoming a citizen that are disregarded. Yes Trump is over the top with his speeches. Many of his personal views are no where close to mine. I personally don't care what his personal views are. I care if he can make a change. With Hillary I don't see change. With Sanders I see some good ideas but no chance of him taking the democratic lead. With Trump I see a viscious struggle but maybe ,just maybe with Trump we may be witness to a stronger third party uprising. Green party, Libertarians? There needs to be more choices and directions. Still on the fence!

    great post, honest and no blind punches thrown, thank you !

    Godfather.

  • inmyNC
    inmyNC amongst many Posts: 243

    inmyNC said:

    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    One thing Trump has consistently done this entire campaign is demonstrate that his opponents are weak and only a matter of time before each one would fall.
    Also you could say that many, many Americans will vote for him as POTUS.
    Something that can't be said of Sanders and only a little with Hillary.

    what can't be said for sanders and hillary? that many many americans won't vote for either one of them?

    sanders kills trump in the polls. hillary is very close to trump.

    the only way the dems lose this election is if they do not show up to vote.
    Trump closed the gap with Hillary because he consolidated the R vote. That hasn't happened on the Dem side yet. Hillary's voters would never say "undecided or Trump" in the hypothetical Sanders V Trump match. However, Sanders voters will still say that. Once Bernie officially drops and endorses Hillary (which I believe he will do if he hopes to leverage his influence in the Senate), then I think the gap will widen again.
    For what its worth, if Sanders drops out and endorses Clinton , I think it will be detrimental to her campaign. I think Hillary is a more centered democrat and taking an endorsement from Sanders will pull her more left. This will push independents towards the right.. Independents will elect the next president..
    Your discounting the minority vote Trump does not get it , women , blacks , Spanish , Muslims yes there are a bunch that can vote , gay community all will vote for Clinton
    Trump may get the majority of minority votes. I question if women are considered minorities. I know a lot of women that ,are at this point, supporting Trump. I think there's a strong chance that many minorities are voting on a partisan platform rather then actual issues. Trump has expressed some insulting comments. I'm in total agreement with that. I've searched out all these quotes and have found that many of these insulting remarks have been aimed at a particular individual rather then a group of people. That said , he has been quoted insulting groups as a whole as well. There will be minority votes cast his way when jobs become a topic. Many folks ,no matter their ethnicity, will vote with respect to their wallets.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,551
    inmyNC said:

    inmyNC said:

    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    One thing Trump has consistently done this entire campaign is demonstrate that his opponents are weak and only a matter of time before each one would fall.
    Also you could say that many, many Americans will vote for him as POTUS.
    Something that can't be said of Sanders and only a little with Hillary.

    what can't be said for sanders and hillary? that many many americans won't vote for either one of them?

    sanders kills trump in the polls. hillary is very close to trump.

    the only way the dems lose this election is if they do not show up to vote.
    Trump closed the gap with Hillary because he consolidated the R vote. That hasn't happened on the Dem side yet. Hillary's voters would never say "undecided or Trump" in the hypothetical Sanders V Trump match. However, Sanders voters will still say that. Once Bernie officially drops and endorses Hillary (which I believe he will do if he hopes to leverage his influence in the Senate), then I think the gap will widen again.
    For what its worth, if Sanders drops out and endorses Clinton , I think it will be detrimental to her campaign. I think Hillary is a more centered democrat and taking an endorsement from Sanders will pull her more left. This will push independents towards the right.. Independents will elect the next president..
    Your discounting the minority vote Trump does not get it , women , blacks , Spanish , Muslims yes there are a bunch that can vote , gay community all will vote for Clinton
    Trump may get the majority of minority votes. I question if women are considered minorities. I know a lot of women that ,are at this point, supporting Trump. I think there's a strong chance that many minorities are voting on a partisan platform rather then actual issues. Trump has expressed some insulting comments. I'm in total agreement with that. I've searched out all these quotes and have found that many of these insulting remarks have been aimed at a particular individual rather then a group of people. That said , he has been quoted insulting groups as a whole as well. There will be minority votes cast his way when jobs become a topic. Many folks ,no matter their ethnicity, will vote with respect to their wallets.
    Yeah well I live here on Long Island and I can assure you I work with many , Spanish , blacks , women , Muslims in this hospital and none that I know will be voting for Trump you can paint it any way you see fit to make you feel good about your support for Trump yeah I know you said your on the fence but your trying hard to find a reason to vote for him Romney had a better approval rating and look what happened to him Trumps approval ratings amongst minorities is abismall !!!!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,152
    whoa....I just heard an interview where Trump was saying how great the 90's were under Clinton

    hilarious
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,660
    edited May 2016
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Jose...always the one to get offended and snippy first HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH easy Amigo it don't matter who he supports, his comments and idea's are just as valid as yours and it sounds like he takes the time to do some real research before shooting off his mouth....like me HAHAHHAHAHA !!!!!

    you will obey...believe in the Trumpman....obey and conform to the new world order.....HAHHAHAHHA !!!!

    Godfather.
  • inmyNC
    inmyNC amongst many Posts: 243

    inmyNC said:

    inmyNC said:

    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    One thing Trump has consistently done this entire campaign is demonstrate that his opponents are weak and only a matter of time before each one would fall.
    Also you could say that many, many Americans will vote for him as POTUS.
    Something that can't be said of Sanders and only a little with Hillary.

    what can't be said for sanders and hillary? that many many americans won't vote for either one of them?

    sanders kills trump in the polls. hillary is very close to trump.

    the only way the dems lose this election is if they do not show up to vote.
    Trump closed the gap with Hillary because he consolidated the R vote. That hasn't happened on the Dem side yet. Hillary's voters would never say "undecided or Trump" in the hypothetical Sanders V Trump match. However, Sanders voters will still say that. Once Bernie officially drops and endorses Hillary (which I believe he will do if he hopes to leverage his influence in the Senate), then I think the gap will widen again.
    For what its worth, if Sanders drops out and endorses Clinton , I think it will be detrimental to her campaign. I think Hillary is a more centered democrat and taking an endorsement from Sanders will pull her more left. This will push independents towards the right.. Independents will elect the next president..
    Your discounting the minority vote Trump does not get it , women , blacks , Spanish , Muslims yes there are a bunch that can vote , gay community all will vote for Clinton
    Trump may get the majority of minority votes. I question if women are considered minorities. I know a lot of women that ,are at this point, supporting Trump. I think there's a strong chance that many minorities are voting on a partisan platform rather then actual issues. Trump has expressed some insulting comments. I'm in total agreement with that. I've searched out all these quotes and have found that many of these insulting remarks have been aimed at a particular individual rather then a group of people. That said , he has been quoted insulting groups as a whole as well. There will be minority votes cast his way when jobs become a topic. Many folks ,no matter their ethnicity, will vote with respect to their wallets.
    Yeah well I live here on Long Island and I can assure you I work with many , Spanish , blacks , women , Muslims in this hospital and none that I know will be voting for Trump you can paint it any way you see fit to make you feel good about your support for Trump yeah I know you said your on the fence but your trying hard to find a reason to vote for him Romney had a better approval rating and look what happened to him Trumps approval ratings amongst minorities is abismall !!!!
    Trump does not at this point have my support. As I have said before I just may skip this presidential election and focus more on my local elections. My point is that I think too many people vote within their party. Too many people vote on if they like a candidate on a personal level. I tend to vote if they can actually carry out their agenda. So when I look at Clinton I get this feeling that there really isn't any improvement or change for the better at all (a rather bland agenda). Trump has a few new ideas. Half of which I see as propaganda to draw a conservative vote and never really would come to fruition. I think that a little "out of the box " method of thinking is what will usher in a new country wide look at third parties. I suppose I should say what is holding back from supporting Trump. I can say it in one word "War" .. His remarks on the use of military force has held me back. A war against terrorist can never be won. To much collateral damage breeding new hate .
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,551
    inmyNC said:

    inmyNC said:

    inmyNC said:

    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    One thing Trump has consistently done this entire campaign is demonstrate that his opponents are weak and only a matter of time before each one would fall.
    Also you could say that many, many Americans will vote for him as POTUS.
    Something that can't be said of Sanders and only a little with Hillary.

    what can't be said for sanders and hillary? that many many americans won't vote for either one of them?

    sanders kills trump in the polls. hillary is very close to trump.

    the only way the dems lose this election is if they do not show up to vote.
    Trump closed the gap with Hillary because he consolidated the R vote. That hasn't happened on the Dem side yet. Hillary's voters would never say "undecided or Trump" in the hypothetical Sanders V Trump match. However, Sanders voters will still say that. Once Bernie officially drops and endorses Hillary (which I believe he will do if he hopes to leverage his influence in the Senate), then I think the gap will widen again.
    For what its worth, if Sanders drops out and endorses Clinton , I think it will be detrimental to her campaign. I think Hillary is a more centered democrat and taking an endorsement from Sanders will pull her more left. This will push independents towards the right.. Independents will elect the next president..
    Your discounting the minority vote Trump does not get it , women , blacks , Spanish , Muslims yes there are a bunch that can vote , gay community all will vote for Clinton
    Trump may get the majority of minority votes. I question if women are considered minorities. I know a lot of women that ,are at this point, supporting Trump. I think there's a strong chance that many minorities are voting on a partisan platform rather then actual issues. Trump has expressed some insulting comments. I'm in total agreement with that. I've searched out all these quotes and have found that many of these insulting remarks have been aimed at a particular individual rather then a group of people. That said , he has been quoted insulting groups as a whole as well. There will be minority votes cast his way when jobs become a topic. Many folks ,no matter their ethnicity, will vote with respect to their wallets.
    Yeah well I live here on Long Island and I can assure you I work with many , Spanish , blacks , women , Muslims in this hospital and none that I know will be voting for Trump you can paint it any way you see fit to make you feel good about your support for Trump yeah I know you said your on the fence but your trying hard to find a reason to vote for him Romney had a better approval rating and look what happened to him Trumps approval ratings amongst minorities is abismall !!!!
    Trump does not at this point have my support. As I have said before I just may skip this presidential election and focus more on my local elections. My point is that I think too many people vote within their party. Too many people vote on if they like a candidate on a personal level. I tend to vote if they can actually carry out their agenda. So when I look at Clinton I get this feeling that there really isn't any improvement or change for the better at all (a rather bland agenda). Trump has a few new ideas. Half of which I see as propaganda to draw a conservative vote and never really would come to fruition. I think that a little "out of the box " method of thinking is what will usher in a new country wide look at third parties. I suppose I should say what is holding back from supporting Trump. I can say it in one word "War" .. His remarks on the use of military force has held me back. A war against terrorist can never be won. To much collateral damage breeding new hate .
    Yeah I agree our choices suck and have sucked for a long time and no matter who wins it they will be tied to any conflicts in the Middle East region so yeah the future outlook is bleak for all of us who are not pro war ...
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,551

    Jose...always the one to get offended and snippy first HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH easy Amigo it don't matter who he supports, his comments and idea's are just as valid as yours and it sounds like he takes the time to do some real research before shooting off his mouth....like me HAHAHHAHAHA !!!!!

    you will obey...believe in the Trumpman....obey and conform to the new world order.....HAHHAHAHHA !!!!

    Godfather.

    Ha ha ha lol ok GF I'm in a good mood today ....
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Jose...always the one to get offended and snippy first HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH easy Amigo it don't matter who he supports, his comments and idea's are just as valid as yours and it sounds like he takes the time to do some real research before shooting off his mouth....like me HAHAHHAHAHA !!!!!

    you will obey...believe in the Trumpman....obey and conform to the new world order.....HAHHAHAHHA !!!!

    Godfather.

    Ha ha ha lol ok GF I'm in a good mood today ....
    cool !

    Godfather.

  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Why is the left always so violent...

    http://m.koat.com/news/trump-protesters-throw-rocks-and-bottles-at-police-horses/39710044

    Can they put their need for fascism aside and just protest peacefully for once?
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    BS44325 said:

    Why is the left always so violent...

    http://m.koat.com/news/trump-protesters-throw-rocks-and-bottles-at-police-horses/39710044

    Can they put their need for fascism aside and just protest peacefully for once?

    It is ironic.
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  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    BS44325 said:

    Why is the left always so violent...

    http://m.koat.com/news/trump-protesters-throw-rocks-and-bottles-at-police-horses/39710044

    Can they put their need for fascism aside and just protest peacefully for once?

    Because they can't get a grip on their emotions. Don't you know...nothing should be said to upset them. Don't say anything that is counter to their point of view and we will all get along just fine...until something else sets them off.
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