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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    BS44325 said:

    WSJ poll today has him 11 points down, and all he talks about is Rigged election no policies at his rallies talk about ADD instead of staying on message about HC policy..this campaign & candidate will go down as one of the most uninformed , disorganized in the history of this country..it's a damn shame that no balls Paul Ryan has not come out publicly and denounce Trumps Rigged election rhetoric!!

    Has the democratic party denounced the "Jeb rigged Florida for George W election rhetoric" yet? It's been 16 years and I'm pretty sure the bulk of the AMT believes it.
    This feels like a diversionary tactic. If you take anything away from 2000 at this point, it's these two lessons, IMO.

    1. Third parties can make a difference. And no one ever talks about Perot in 92 either.
    2. Al Gore and his concession speech was a critical moment in our history. Does anyone think Trump has any chance of doing anything remotely that classy, even if a landslide?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    edited October 2016
    I tend to read Jonah Goldberg at the National Review, even though I disagree with him on every policy issue, pretty much. But his commentary today was pretty good. I especially liked this line:

    I honestly can’t get my head around the fact that Hillary Clinton’s closing “argument” in this election is sexual harassment. Bill Clinton’s lifelong enabler has managed to turn this topic into a deadly weapon against a Republican nominee. This is like Godzilla turning public safety into a winning issue in the Tokyo mayoral race.

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/g-file/441092/donald-trump-operation-destroy-gop
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,844
    mrussel1 said:

    I tend to read Jonah Goldberg at the National Review, even though I disagree with him on every policy issue, pretty much. But his commentary today was pretty good. I especially liked this line:

    I honestly can’t get my head around the fact that Hillary Clinton’s closing “argument” in this election is sexual harassment. Bill Clinton’s lifelong enabler has managed to turn this topic into a deadly weapon against a Republican nominee. This is like Godzilla turning public safety into a winning issue in the Tokyo mayoral race.

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/g-file/441092/donald-trump-operation-destroy-gop

    It's just too big to ignore, though. There has to be some response, and it can't come off as limp or lukewarm, so it has to be all-in.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,552
    if trump gives a concession speech at all, it will be a tirade against the establishment and the media for rigging the election and how clinton should be impeached, removed from office, and put in prison. mark my words, there isn't a classy bone in that man's body.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,552
    saw that video of carson on msnbc. that douche interviewing him shouldn't be on the news. unprofessional idiot. telling carson to stop talking? carson was avoiding the question. call him out on it and move on. don't start shouting at the guy while you sip on your glass of tea. douche.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    .

    And this one's just kind of funny.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/15/tell-america-its-great_n_12504094.html?utm_hp_ref=canada

    Yes, America, there's much more to you than Trump.

    Good stuff.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    I dont need government to tell me what is right.

    You should not have an abortion then. I know I'm personally against them and if my children got pregnant, I would raise the child to avoid an abortion. But not everyone would have the same support network, therefore I support choice.
    How do you feel about extremely extreme late term abortion?
    Cue this thread going down the tubes.

    Care to put any parameters on that question?
    https://youtu.be/z9nkzaOPP6g
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    I dont need government to tell me what is right.

    You should not have an abortion then. I know I'm personally against them and if my children got pregnant, I would raise the child to avoid an abortion. But not everyone would have the same support network, therefore I support choice.
    How do you feel about extremely extreme late term abortion?
    Cue this thread going down the tubes.

    Care to put any parameters on that question?
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    if trump gives a concession speech at all, it will be a tirade against the establishment and the media for rigging the election and how clinton should be impeached, removed from office, and put in prison. mark my words, there isn't a classy bone in that man's body.

    He's going to be the first nominee to give a sore loser concession speech. He won't accept a fair and square defeat, he will stomp his feet like the petulant child that he is and scream "it's not fair, she cheated!" and embarass America for the last time, hopefully.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,530
    rgambs said:

    if trump gives a concession speech at all, it will be a tirade against the establishment and the media for rigging the election and how clinton should be impeached, removed from office, and put in prison. mark my words, there isn't a classy bone in that man's body.

    He's going to be the first nominee to give a sore loser concession speech. He won't accept a fair and square defeat, he will stomp his feet like the petulant child that he is and scream "it's not fair, she cheated!" and embarass America for the last time, hopefully.
    I can't believe Pence is still with him. He's a bigger phony than I thought.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,671
    rgambs said:

    if trump gives a concession speech at all, it will be a tirade against the establishment and the media for rigging the election and how clinton should be impeached, removed from office, and put in prison. mark my words, there isn't a classy bone in that man's body.

    He's going to be the first nominee to give a sore loser concession speech. He won't accept a fair and square defeat, he will stomp his feet like the petulant child that he is and scream "it's not fair, she cheated!" and embarass America for the last time, hopefully.
    I agree with this totally. Though I hope we are wrong as to how he reacts.

    A spoiled child will throw a tantrum when they don't get what they want.

    A narcissistic immature spoiled adult will throw a tantrum.and yell "it's rigged they rigged it" over and over when they don't get the result they expected.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    I don't think a nice concession speech would have any positive effect with his supporters anyways. He's going to be stirring them up until election day....and that genie will not be so easily put back into the bottle.

    You can't fix stupid.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    edited October 2016
    But but but... he's RACIST!!!


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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,890
    And here are all the awards and recognition that Hillary Clinton has received. Hello? Unsung? Media? Anyone?
    What's your point?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_honors_received_by_Hillary_Clinton
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    WSJ poll today has him 11 points down, and all he talks about is Rigged election no policies at his rallies talk about ADD instead of staying on message about HC policy..this campaign & candidate will go down as one of the most uninformed , disorganized in the history of this country..it's a damn shame that no balls Paul Ryan has not come out publicly and denounce Trumps Rigged election rhetoric!!

    Just looked at the internals of the WSJ poll and of the people who were polled they went for Obama over Romney by a margin of 46 - 32!

    http://www.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/16991NBCWSJMiddleOctoberPoll.pdf

    Obama only beat Romney by 3.9%. That sample is plain old crazy!
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    unsung said:

    But but but... he's RACIST!!!


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    C'mon Unsung....remember when they wrote this about Romney

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/12/michael-tomasky-on-mitt-romney-the-race-baiter-at-the-naacp.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=G-File 10142016&utm_term=GFile

    It doesn't matter what award he got every republican is a racist to these folk
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,890
    Remember that time when Trump said he couldn't think of a single Muslim athlete? Lol.
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  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    unsung said:

    But but but... he's RACIST!!!


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    See? I can post strawman deflections too!
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    PJ_Soul said:

    Remember that time when Trump said he couldn't think of a single Muslim athlete? Lol.

    He only likes RICH Muslims.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,671
    unsung said:

    But but but... he's RACIST!!!


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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,552
    BS44325 said:

    unsung said:

    But but but... he's RACIST!!!


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    C'mon Unsung....remember when they wrote this about Romney

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/12/michael-tomasky-on-mitt-romney-the-race-baiter-at-the-naacp.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=G-File 10142016&utm_term=GFile

    It doesn't matter what award he got every republican is a racist to these folk
    that is such a bullshit comment and you know it.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    unsung said:

    But but but... he's RACIST!!!


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    C'mon Unsung....remember when they wrote this about Romney

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/12/michael-tomasky-on-mitt-romney-the-race-baiter-at-the-naacp.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=G-File 10142016&utm_term=GFile

    It doesn't matter what award he got every republican is a racist to these folk
    that is such a bullshit comment and you know it.
    No. It is the cold truth. Romney was made to be a racist and misogynist. Pretty standard democratic playbook.
  • BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    unsung said:

    But but but... he's RACIST!!!


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    C'mon Unsung....remember when they wrote this about Romney

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/12/michael-tomasky-on-mitt-romney-the-race-baiter-at-the-naacp.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=G-File 10142016&utm_term=GFile

    It doesn't matter what award he got every republican is a racist to these folk
    that is such a bullshit comment and you know it.
    No. It is the cold truth. Romney was made to be a racist and misogynist. Pretty standard democratic playbook.
    You'd think the republicans would have figured out how to counter it by now then, right? Old habits are hard to break, I guess.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,552
    unsung said:

    But but but... he's RACIST!!!


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    edited October 2016
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  • Here is something for everyone
    A multicultural conservative view - http://www.torontosun.com/2016/10/14/furey-trump-now-knows-how-rob-ford-felt

    An all over the place hanging some facts some other things in the air liberal view - http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-toronto-tower-court-claims-1.3804831

    and

    just loathe - http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/14/donald-trump-tower-toronto-lawsuit_n_12487926.html
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,844

    Here is something for everyone
    A multicultural conservative view - http://www.torontosun.com/2016/10/14/furey-trump-now-knows-how-rob-ford-felt

    An all over the place hanging some facts some other things in the air liberal view - http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-toronto-tower-court-claims-1.3804831

    and

    just loathe - http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/14/donald-trump-tower-toronto-lawsuit_n_12487926.html

    Make no mistake. Trump’s a boor and a mediocre candidate. It’s hard to make heads or tails of his political philosophy. And it’s putting it mildly to say in terms of policy, leadership and character, he’s no Ronald Reagan.

    But that doesn’t change the fact that this disproportionate focus on his personal life means the fix was in from the start.


    Interesting comment at the close of the (fairly biased) article, which seems to bely its conclusion. If we can't make heads or tails of his political philosophy and he's lacking in policy, what else are we left with but discussing the "character" issue?
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    Here is something for everyone
    A multicultural conservative view - http://www.torontosun.com/2016/10/14/furey-trump-now-knows-how-rob-ford-felt

    An all over the place hanging some facts some other things in the air liberal view - http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-toronto-tower-court-claims-1.3804831

    and

    just loathe - http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/14/donald-trump-tower-toronto-lawsuit_n_12487926.html

    Make no mistake. Trump’s a boor and a mediocre candidate. It’s hard to make heads or tails of his political philosophy. And it’s putting it mildly to say in terms of policy, leadership and character, he’s no Ronald Reagan.

    But that doesn’t change the fact that this disproportionate focus on his personal life means the fix was in from the start.


    Interesting comment at the close of the (fairly biased) article, which seems to bely its conclusion. If we can't make heads or tails of his political philosophy and he's lacking in policy, what else are we left with but discussing the "character" issue?
    Agreed. The character issue is all that there is to discuss because the policy and stances are smoke screens of obscure statements like, make it great, knock the hell out of, get back to winning, great plans, law & order, etc.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • So with the Georgia and Alaska polls out this morning it is now looking likely that on November 8 Trump will have more sexual assault accusations than he will electoral college votes.
    His stump ramblings are gonna be scary/fun for the final 3 weeks - hold on to your wigs and keys, folks.
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