Trump

PJfanwillneverleave1

benjs said:

As far as I'm concerned, POTUS' job is not limited to political efforts, but also socioeconomic ones. Given Obama's campaign slogan simply was "Hope" (a purposefully broad slogan whose reach goes far beyond political reform), think about the hope that could have come from a visit. A cheerleader doesn't directly impact the outcome of a sports game, yet their presence is to inspire support. A visit from Obama would have been reassurance of impending support, from what appears to be a fairly silent country at the moment. That's not to say showing up is enough: working to resolve the issue would have been the next challenge. In the absence of the visit, resolving the situation is now the necessary action.

Trumps slogan "Make America Great Again" is broad as well.
His presence was necessary to have eyes on to develop a resolve for the situation, something that can't be done if you are not part of it.
Trump cares.

PJ_Soul

rgambs said:

pjalive21 said:

Not a Trump fan but what he did for Louisiana today made Obama look like a fool...enough to criticize him on but he became the leader Obama and Clinton could not

The Governor specifically asked him not to come, just to send money if he wanted to help.

Precious resources are diverted from where they are needed in rescue and relief efforts when big-time officials visit disaster areas for photo-ops.

Case closed then. Trump is an ass and Obama and Clinton did the right thing.
The orange one took advantage of misery and couldn't care less.

g under p

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

pjalive21 said:

Not a Trump fan but what he did for Louisiana today made Obama look like a fool...enough to criticize him on but he became the leader Obama and Clinton could not

The Governor specifically asked him not to come, just to send money if he wanted to help.

Precious resources are diverted from where they are needed in rescue and relief efforts when big-time officials visit disaster areas for photo-ops.

Case closed then. Trump is an ass and Obama and Clinton did the right thing.
The orange one took advantage of misery and couldn't care less.

What the governor said is right on point. It makes no sense for the President to go there......it's not like he's going to roll up his sleeves and start help people himself. Why waste resources for that, send the resources of the government to help people in distress is a much better idea.

Peace

PJ_Soul

g under p said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

pjalive21 said:

Not a Trump fan but what he did for Louisiana today made Obama look like a fool...enough to criticize him on but he became the leader Obama and Clinton could not

The Governor specifically asked him not to come, just to send money if he wanted to help.

Precious resources are diverted from where they are needed in rescue and relief efforts when big-time officials visit disaster areas for photo-ops.

Case closed then. Trump is an ass and Obama and Clinton did the right thing.
The orange one took advantage of misery and couldn't care less.

What the governor said is right on point. It makes no sense for the President to go there......it's not like he's going to roll up his sleeves and start help people himself. Why waste resources for that, send the resources of the government to help people in distress is a much better idea.

Peace

I totally agree. This same debate happened over Trudeau and how he waited to appear in Fort McMurray after the fire. He waited for the exact same reason. Some people apparently just want leaders they don't like to show up at disaster zones... or, more like they don't actually want the leaders they don't like to show up. They pretend they want them to show up so that they can criticize them when they don't. Comes off as the quest for presidential cheap shots to me. Using the Bush/Katrina/everyone mad example really doesn't work at all, since it was gross incompetence everyone was mad about, not Bush failing to show up and wave at people.

Bentleyspop

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

benjs said:

As far as I'm concerned, POTUS' job is not limited to political efforts, but also socioeconomic ones. Given Obama's campaign slogan simply was "Hope" (a purposefully broad slogan whose reach goes far beyond political reform), think about the hope that could have come from a visit. A cheerleader doesn't directly impact the outcome of a sports game, yet their presence is to inspire support. A visit from Obama would have been reassurance of impending support, from what appears to be a fairly silent country at the moment. That's not to say showing up is enough: working to resolve the issue would have been the next challenge. In the absence of the visit, resolving the situation is now the necessary action.

Trumps slogan "Make America Great Again" is broad as well.
His presence was necessary to have eyes on to develop a resolve for the situation, something that can't be done if you are not part of it.
Trump cares.

drumpf cares about drumpf

PJ_Soul

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

benjs said:

As far as I'm concerned, POTUS' job is not limited to political efforts, but also socioeconomic ones. Given Obama's campaign slogan simply was "Hope" (a purposefully broad slogan whose reach goes far beyond political reform), think about the hope that could have come from a visit. A cheerleader doesn't directly impact the outcome of a sports game, yet their presence is to inspire support. A visit from Obama would have been reassurance of impending support, from what appears to be a fairly silent country at the moment. That's not to say showing up is enough: working to resolve the issue would have been the next challenge. In the absence of the visit, resolving the situation is now the necessary action.

Trumps slogan "Make America Great Again" is broad as well.
His presence was necessary to have eyes on to develop a resolve for the situation, something that can't be done if you are not part of it.
Trump cares.

I know you don't actually believe that.

josevolution

You see that's where the issue lies even when you present proof of facts as to why Obama didn't show up the Trumpsters can see it , it's right in front of their eyes to read but when it comes to Obama they are blind ...

PJ_Soul

More evidence that Trump is a rotten human being who is an enemy to women. Not that we really need any more convincing, right?

http://go.some.ly/O3jI00N

josevolution

PJ_Soul said:

More evidence that Trump is a rotten human being who is an enemy to women. Not that we really need any more convincing, right?

http://go.some.ly/O3jI00N

Yeah his a total creep damn how did he go so long without someone punching his lights out !!

Gern Blansten

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-tweets-scarborough-brzezinksi-secret-couple

Holy Shit...just yesterday I watched Trump's new campaign chief say that he won't use personal attacks. Now this.

How anyone could vote for this moron is beyond me. I'm wondering if the new CM will resign....she should

hedonist

A cousin of mine is one of the most honored and respected cardiologists in the country. And, he is voting for Trump.

I don't get it!

InHiding80

hedonist said:

A cousin of mine is one of the most honored and respected cardiologists in the country. And, he is voting for Trump.

I don't get it!

Ben Carson is a brain surgeon but a political moron. It's possible.

On top of that, he thinks Saving Christmas is a good movie.

Cliffy6745

hedonist said:

A cousin of mine is one of the most honored and respected cardiologists in the country. And, he is voting for Trump.

I don't get it!

$$$

josevolution

Cliffy6745 said:

hedonist said:

A cousin of mine is one of the most honored and respected cardiologists in the country. And, he is voting for Trump.

I don't get it!

$$$

Ding ding ..

brianlux

Trump. I wish I could just forget about that guy. Damn!

lukin2006

i hear he's going to lose...BIG!!! And everyone thought he was orange now...he'll turn red face.

hedonist

josevolution said:

Cliffy6745 said:

hedonist said:

A cousin of mine is one of the most honored and respected cardiologists in the country. And, he is voting for Trump.

I don't get it!

$$$

Ding ding ..

To whom is "$$$" applied?

That's why I said I don't get it - my cousin is in zero need of more income.

It's the mindset, not the money.

josevolution

hedonist said:

josevolution said:

Cliffy6745 said:

hedonist said:

A cousin of mine is one of the most honored and respected cardiologists in the country. And, he is voting for Trump.

I don't get it!

$$$

Ding ding ..

To whom is "$$$" applied?

That's why I said I don't get it - my cousin is in zero need of more income.

It's the mindset, not the money.

I believe the better off are afraid of the Clinton tax proposal and maybe they believe Trump won't raise their taxes , that's just my assumption

InHiding80

lukin2006 said:

i hear he's going to lose...BIG!!! And everyone thought he was orange now...he'll turn red face.

It sure looks that way on Nate Silver's site.

gimmesometruth27

#landslide