I don't give a flying fuck about Hillary at the moment, and I'm not a Hillary supporter. I am talking about Donald fucking Trump. Those comments he made are the embodiment of the kind of thinking that results in the fact that at least 1 out of 4 women are sexually assaulted by men. His comments draw out the reason why there have been three separate men who I have never seen before in my life who felt it would be a fine idea to walk up to me and grab my pussy. This kind of talk and this attitude that you guys are defending are the crux if the whole fucking problem. And you just don't see it. You don't get it. And that is on you. You are a part of the problem, whether you know it or not.
I'm not defending anyone's actions I just done need a safe zone every time someone opens their mouth...im tired of hypocrisy when it comes to stuff Trump does everyone wants to pounce on because they denounce him as a person but refuse to look at HRC and the 30 years of atrocities this women has caused including costing HUMAN FUCKING LIVES!!!!!!!!!
"30 years of atrocities" really?
I assume behghazi is one of them. For me, it was unfortunate, but far from an atrocity. What other "atrocities" do have in mind?
If I had known then what I know now...
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Destabization of Libya and Syria come to mind. Creating ISIS comes to mind...isn't that enough?
We could add how much she has harassed women too.
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I don't give a flying fuck about Hillary at the moment, and I'm not a Hillary supporter. I am talking about Donald fucking Trump. Those comments he made are the embodiment of the kind of thinking that results in the fact that at least 1 out of 4 women are sexually assaulted by men. His comments draw out the reason why there have been three separate men who I have never seen before in my life who felt it would be a fine idea to walk up to me and grab my pussy. This kind of talk and this attitude that you guys are defending are the crux if the whole fucking problem. And you just don't see it. You don't get it. And that is on you. You are a part of the problem, whether you know it or not.
I'm not defending anyone's actions I just done need a safe zone every time someone opens their mouth...im tired of hypocrisy when it comes to stuff Trump does everyone wants to pounce on because they denounce him as a person but refuse to look at HRC and the 30 years of atrocities this women has caused including costing HUMAN FUCKING LIVES!!!!!!!!!
"30 years of atrocities" really?
I assume behghazi is one of them. For me, it was unfortunate, but far from an atrocity. What other "atrocities" do have in mind?
telling a 12 year old it was her fault she was raped....what else you got?
Obama used the word pussy in a 1995 Cambridge speech....3rd Party Candidate Johnson used pussy is reference to calling out Trump in an interview...where is the outrage on this?
I personally don't care but since you guys seem to hate the word
and I hope you never watched a Tarantino film...like say From Dusk Till Dawn
I don't give a flying fuck about Hillary at the moment, and I'm not a Hillary supporter. I am talking about Donald fucking Trump. Those comments he made are the embodiment of the kind of thinking that results in the fact that at least 1 out of 4 women are sexually assaulted by men. His comments draw out the reason why there have been three separate men who I have never seen before in my life who felt it would be a fine idea to walk up to me and grab my pussy. This kind of talk and this attitude that you guys are defending are the crux if the whole fucking problem. And you just don't see it. You don't get it. And that is on you. You are a part of the problem, whether you know it or not.
I'm not defending anyone's actions I just done need a safe zone every time someone opens their mouth...im tired of hypocrisy when it comes to stuff Trump does everyone wants to pounce on because they denounce him as a person but refuse to look at HRC and the 30 years of atrocities this women has caused including costing HUMAN FUCKING LIVES!!!!!!!!!
"30 years of atrocities" really?
I assume behghazi is one of them. For me, it was unfortunate, but far from an atrocity. What other "atrocities" do have in mind?
telling a 12 year old it was her fault she was raped....what else you got?
Not that this has anything to do with the topic at hand, but...
I don't give a flying fuck about Hillary at the moment, and I'm not a Hillary supporter. I am talking about Donald fucking Trump. Those comments he made are the embodiment of the kind of thinking that results in the fact that at least 1 out of 4 women are sexually assaulted by men. His comments draw out the reason why there have been three separate men who I have never seen before in my life who felt it would be a fine idea to walk up to me and grab my pussy. This kind of talk and this attitude that you guys are defending are the crux if the whole fucking problem. And you just don't see it. You don't get it. And that is on you. You are a part of the problem, whether you know it or not.
I'm not defending anyone's actions I just done need a safe zone every time someone opens their mouth...im tired of hypocrisy when it comes to stuff Trump does everyone wants to pounce on because they denounce him as a person but refuse to look at HRC and the 30 years of atrocities this women has caused including costing HUMAN FUCKING LIVES!!!!!!!!!
"30 years of atrocities" really?
I assume behghazi is one of them. For me, it was unfortunate, but far from an atrocity. What other "atrocities" do have in mind?
telling a 12 year old it was her fault she was raped....what else you got?
She was assigned to the case by the judge. She didn't "tell the girl it was her fault", she mounted a defense which is consistent with her ethical obligation as an attorney. I hope you understand the obligation an attorney carries.
I don't give a flying fuck about Hillary at the moment, and I'm not a Hillary supporter. I am talking about Donald fucking Trump. Those comments he made are the embodiment of the kind of thinking that results in the fact that at least 1 out of 4 women are sexually assaulted by men. His comments draw out the reason why there have been three separate men who I have never seen before in my life who felt it would be a fine idea to walk up to me and grab my pussy. This kind of talk and this attitude that you guys are defending are the crux if the whole fucking problem. And you just don't see it. You don't get it. And that is on you. You are a part of the problem, whether you know it or not.
I'm not defending anyone's actions I just done need a safe zone every time someone opens their mouth...im tired of hypocrisy when it comes to stuff Trump does everyone wants to pounce on because they denounce him as a person but refuse to look at HRC and the 30 years of atrocities this women has caused including costing HUMAN FUCKING LIVES!!!!!!!!!
"30 years of atrocities" really?
I assume behghazi is one of them. For me, it was unfortunate, but far from an atrocity. What other "atrocities" do have in mind?
telling a 12 year old it was her fault she was raped....what else you got?
Not that this has anything to do with the topic at hand, but...
WHAT'S TRUE: In 1975, young lawyer Hillary Rodham was appointed to represent a defendant charged with raping a 12-year-old girl. Clinton reluctantly took on the case, which ended with a plea bargain for the defendant, and later chuckled about some aspects of the case when discussing it years later.
I gotta say it's obviously fucked up what he said as are most of the other shit that's come out of his mouth. Most people think it's hilarious who I was talking about it to today with though, and they're all libs. They all were making gestures and joking about dong grabbing and fondling and that kind of stuff. Maybe all my friends are super fucked up or something but they definitely weren't freaking about it at all. Maybe it's the Internet though, everything takes a deathly serious tone on the web, like his comments are going to suddenly make people think that shit is ok or something.
And just in case some don't want to click on that link I posted:
Donald Trump’s ‘P—y’ Comment Is the Root of Sexual Violence Jill Filipovic @JillFilipovic "American women should be very afraid—and very angry"
Donald Trump, a candidate whose propensity for offensive absurdity seems endless, may have finally crossed the line when he bragged about sexually assaulting women. That the bragging happened a decade ago doesn’t change the reality that a man who might be president sees half the country’s population not just as objects for his own aesthetic gratification–we knew that thanks to the beauty pageants and the string of model wives–but objects for his physical gratification as well, regardless of how the women in question feel about it. If women are people—and regardless of what Trump seems to think, we are—then this kind of behavior should be disqualifying for the presidency.
Trump already has a woman problem, although as the race has worn on and more conservative female voters have come around to him, it’s not as pronounced as it once was. His latest comments could—should—change that. What Trump describes isn’t just boorish behavior, it’s potentially a crime. In 2005, Trump was caught on tape talking with the Today Show’s Billy Bush (at the time, Bush was at Access Hollywood), and Trump brags that because he’s famous, he could do whatever he wanted to women, and was able to “grab them by the pussy” at his leisure. He likes kissing beautiful women, he says, and so just does it when he wants (“I don’t even wait,” he says – suggesting that he does in fact realize he should have a woman’s consent to kiss her, but feels fine about forcing it). While trying to get a married woman to sleep with him he “moved on her like a bitch.”
This, Trump says, was just “locker room banter.”
If that’s the case, then American women should be very afraid—and very angry. It’s fun and normal, Trump suggests, for men to hang out talking about grabbing women by their crotches and forcing them to kiss you. This is the root of sexual violence: The idea that women aren’t autonomous human beings with the right and ability to say yes to sexual interactions we want and no to those we don’t, but that we’re receptacles for male sexual desire, that our bodies are up for grabs (literally, in this case).
Even more insulting is that when Trump issued his half-hearted apology, he said this just isn’t a big deal. “Let’s be honest, we’re living in the real world,” he wrote. “This is nothing more than a distraction from the important issues we’re facing today.” Among those more important issues: “We are losing our jobs, we are less safe than we were eight years ago and Washington is totally broken.”
None of that’s actually true—employment numbers are up and violent crime is down—but that Trump believes misogyny and sexual violence are “a distraction” implies he doesn’t know all that much about real America after all. One in five women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime. Women are routinely pushed out of jobs or made miserable in the workplace because of the same kind of sexualized, misogynist banter Trump and Bush engaged in. Trump doesn’t care; he built a nice little landing pad for his friend Roger Ailes, the disgraced chairman of Fox News who left the company because of his habitual mistreatment of female employees and landed on his feet in the Trump campaign. One of this election cycle’s most notorious sexual harassers already worked for Trump before this latest footage broke. And Trump’s entire adult life, through his 60s, has been a mounting garbage-pile of misogyny. There’s so much of it it’s hard to keep track. These latest revelations are not, as Trump claimed in his apology, words that “don’t reflect who I am.” They just are the latest of many data points, part of a long, clear pattern. They reflect exactly who Trump is.
This is where women need to put our collective foot down and say you can’t insult us and talk about assaulting us and still expect our votes. That’s an awfully low bar, but still, a significant number of white women say they support Trump. Many women are used to being treated terribly by men – of those one in five who are sexually assaulted, most are assaulted by someone they know. Even women who aren’t sexually assaulted know from experience that there’s a shocking number of men who hate us for existing. Others prefer to pretend that’s not true, that the husband who complains about the bitches he works with is just stressed, that the boyfriend who talks to you with contempt when he’s in front of his friends is just trying to fit in, that the father who says women should be at home with the kids and not out taking men’s jobs is simply old-school, that the boss who ignores your comments and nods approvingly at the men favors them for some fair reason you just can’t see.
Misogyny is a strange kind of bigotry in that it can thrive even in intimacy—it’s not ignorance that helps stoke it, the way a Trump voter may hate Mexicans for taking his job without ever having really gotten to know anyone of Mexican descent. It persists despite the deep familiarity of family and kin, as even the most horrifically sexist men having mothers and sisters and wives and girlfriends. That often makes it harder for women to spot: When you’re a fish living in water, do you know you’re wet? When it’s so common to write off the hatred and abuse of women as “locker room banter,” of course many women believe that lie, too–that boys are just being boys, that men don’t really mean what they say.
Enough. There are a great many men who don’t behave like Trump, who do treat women like human beings and not walking orifices. This isn’t a thing to be applauded or rewarded; it’s the baseline. That Trump falls so below it and is nonetheless the nominee for president from one of our two major parties should have women everywhere ready to riot. What does that say about how the GOP sees us?
We are so used to being told to wait our turn, to sacrifice for others, to give until it hurts. It’s far past time we said we aren’t going to give any harder–we aren’t going to look the other way and give up our basic dignity to enable a rise to power from a grotesque misogynist like Trump. And men—Trump’s base, at least among whites–shouldn’t be so willing to sacrifice women’s basic humanity for a political victory.
If the GOP truly respected women and believed that women shouldn’t be denigrated and assaulted, they would pull Trump from the ticket. But they won’t. And in the absence of that basic decency, it’s up to women ourselves, and the men who agree that we’re people, to say that Trump’s misogyny has gone on for too long and has finally gone too far.
Trump brags about grabbing pussies. He seems to forget that women also have claws.
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I don't give a flying fuck about Hillary at the moment, and I'm not a Hillary supporter. I am talking about Donald fucking Trump. Those comments he made are the embodiment of the kind of thinking that results in the fact that at least 1 out of 4 women are sexually assaulted by men. His comments draw out the reason why there have been three separate men who I have never seen before in my life who felt it would be a fine idea to walk up to me and grab my pussy. This kind of talk and this attitude that you guys are defending are the crux if the whole fucking problem. And you just don't see it. You don't get it. And that is on you. You are a part of the problem, whether you know it or not.
I'm not defending anyone's actions I just done need a safe zone every time someone opens their mouth...im tired of hypocrisy when it comes to stuff Trump does everyone wants to pounce on because they denounce him as a person but refuse to look at HRC and the 30 years of atrocities this women has caused including costing HUMAN FUCKING LIVES!!!!!!!!!
"30 years of atrocities" really?
I assume behghazi is one of them. For me, it was unfortunate, but far from an atrocity. What other "atrocities" do have in mind?
telling a 12 year old it was her fault she was raped....what else you got?
Not that this has anything to do with the topic at hand, but...
WHAT'S TRUE: In 1975, young lawyer Hillary Rodham was appointed to represent a defendant charged with raping a 12-year-old girl. Clinton reluctantly took on the case, which ended with a plea bargain for the defendant, and later chuckled about some aspects of the case when discussing it years later.
whats to chuckle about?
Have you seen the video? It's pretty well in context. She certainly wasn't chuckling about the girl. I agree she should have avoided chuckling at all because it was in bad taste no matter the context, but to me it seemed like the normal why a person chuckles in normal conversation. It sure as hell wasn't anything to fairly hold up to Trump's misogyny and say 'See?? She's just as bad!!!', whihc is what I assume you're attempting to do. But FWIW, even if that were true, which it obviously isn't, to use that as some way to minimize what Trump said is really wrong. I don't even know why you want to talk about it here.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I've seen that wording on three news networks today. The VP is calling it sexual assault. Just because print media has not worded it that way, doesn't make it not true.
Here is the definition of sexual assault according to the DOJ:
Sexual assault is any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape.
I've seen that wording on three news networks today. The VP is calling it sexual assault. Just because print media has not worded it that way, doesn't make it not true.
absolutely right. If the video is different than I would obviously change my mind.
alright I might be 100% wrong in defending Trump: Lindsey Graham ✔@LindseyGrahamSC Name one sports team, university, publicly-held company, etc. that would accept a person like this as their standard bearer?
If Graham is going anti-republican then it obviously a hell of a lot worse than I realized.
That's exactly what he's doing. Graham hasn't been a Trump supporter at all, but even those that have supported Trump are jumping overboard. Especially those in contested races, red or blue states.
alright I might be 100% wrong in defending Trump: Lindsey Graham ✔@LindseyGrahamSC Name one sports team, university, publicly-held company, etc. that would accept a person like this as their standard bearer?
If Graham is going anti-republican then it obviously a hell of a lot worse than I realized.
The truly sad part is as hard as trump is trying to lose, Hillary is still not taking a commanding lead. As poor as he is it speaks volumes at what a bad candidate she is as well. If Biden were running, or even Bernie, they'd have a 30 point lead.
The truly sad part as hard as trump is trying to lose, Hillary is still not taking a commanding lead. As poor as he is it speaks volumes at what a bad candidate she is as well. If Biden were running, or even Bernie, they'd have a 30 point lead.
What? Was that a real statement? There are no 30 point leads for ANYONE in politics at the national level. Give me a break.
alright I might be 100% wrong in defending Trump: Lindsey Graham ✔@LindseyGrahamSC Name one sports team, university, publicly-held company, etc. that would accept a person like this as their standard bearer?
If Graham is going anti-republican then it obviously a hell of a lot worse than I realized.
Well Graham isn't a Republican.
You're right, not if you consider Trump a Republican. Trump is actually head of the Deplorable ticket, not the GOP. I give McCain and Romney much more credit than comparing them to Trump.
The truly sad part as hard as trump is trying to lose, Hillary is still not taking a commanding lead. As poor as he is it speaks volumes at what a bad candidate she is as well. If Biden were running, or even Bernie, they'd have a 30 point lead.
What? Was that a real statement? There are no 30 point leads for ANYONE in politics at the national level. Give me a break.
No shit sherlock, it was an exaggeration. I was just saying that Bernie or Biden would be running away with this if they were the democratic candidate. I really think after a few days we'll be back to normal and this will be old news.
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I assume behghazi is one of them. For me, it was unfortunate, but far from an atrocity. What other "atrocities" do have in mind?
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We could add how much she has harassed women too.
Hillary created ISIS?
I personally don't care but since you guys seem to hate the word
and I hope you never watched a Tarantino film...like say From Dusk Till Dawn
safe spaces everyone!
telling a 12 year old it was her fault she was raped....what else you got?
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/
She was assigned to the case by the judge. She didn't "tell the girl it was her fault", she mounted a defense which is consistent with her ethical obligation as an attorney. I hope you understand the obligation an attorney carries.
whats to chuckle about?
Donald Trump’s ‘P—y’ Comment Is the Root of Sexual Violence
Jill Filipovic @JillFilipovic
"American women should be very afraid—and very angry"
Donald Trump, a candidate whose propensity for offensive absurdity seems endless, may have finally crossed the line when he bragged about sexually assaulting women. That the bragging happened a decade ago doesn’t change the reality that a man who might be president sees half the country’s population not just as objects for his own aesthetic gratification–we knew that thanks to the beauty pageants and the string of model wives–but objects for his physical gratification as well, regardless of how the women in question feel about it. If women are people—and regardless of what Trump seems to think, we are—then this kind of behavior should be disqualifying for the presidency.
Trump already has a woman problem, although as the race has worn on and more conservative female voters have come around to him, it’s not as pronounced as it once was. His latest comments could—should—change that. What Trump describes isn’t just boorish behavior, it’s potentially a crime. In 2005, Trump was caught on tape talking with the Today Show’s Billy Bush (at the time, Bush was at Access Hollywood), and Trump brags that because he’s famous, he could do whatever he wanted to women, and was able to “grab them by the pussy” at his leisure. He likes kissing beautiful women, he says, and so just does it when he wants (“I don’t even wait,” he says – suggesting that he does in fact realize he should have a woman’s consent to kiss her, but feels fine about forcing it). While trying to get a married woman to sleep with him he “moved on her like a bitch.”
This, Trump says, was just “locker room banter.”
If that’s the case, then American women should be very afraid—and very angry. It’s fun and normal, Trump suggests, for men to hang out talking about grabbing women by their crotches and forcing them to kiss you. This is the root of sexual violence: The idea that women aren’t autonomous human beings with the right and ability to say yes to sexual interactions we want and no to those we don’t, but that we’re receptacles for male sexual desire, that our bodies are up for grabs (literally, in this case).
Even more insulting is that when Trump issued his half-hearted apology, he said this just isn’t a big deal. “Let’s be honest, we’re living in the real world,” he wrote. “This is nothing more than a distraction from the important issues we’re facing today.” Among those more important issues: “We are losing our jobs, we are less safe than we were eight years ago and Washington is totally broken.”
None of that’s actually true—employment numbers are up and violent crime is down—but that Trump believes misogyny and sexual violence are “a distraction” implies he doesn’t know all that much about real America after all. One in five women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime. Women are routinely pushed out of jobs or made miserable in the workplace because of the same kind of sexualized, misogynist banter Trump and Bush engaged in. Trump doesn’t care; he built a nice little landing pad for his friend Roger Ailes, the disgraced chairman of Fox News who left the company because of his habitual mistreatment of female employees and landed on his feet in the Trump campaign. One of this election cycle’s most notorious sexual harassers already worked for Trump before this latest footage broke. And Trump’s entire adult life, through his 60s, has been a mounting garbage-pile of misogyny. There’s so much of it it’s hard to keep track. These latest revelations are not, as Trump claimed in his apology, words that “don’t reflect who I am.” They just are the latest of many data points, part of a long, clear pattern. They reflect exactly who Trump is.
This is where women need to put our collective foot down and say you can’t insult us and talk about assaulting us and still expect our votes. That’s an awfully low bar, but still, a significant number of white women say they support Trump. Many women are used to being treated terribly by men – of those one in five who are sexually assaulted, most are assaulted by someone they know. Even women who aren’t sexually assaulted know from experience that there’s a shocking number of men who hate us for existing. Others prefer to pretend that’s not true, that the husband who complains about the bitches he works with is just stressed, that the boyfriend who talks to you with contempt when he’s in front of his friends is just trying to fit in, that the father who says women should be at home with the kids and not out taking men’s jobs is simply old-school, that the boss who ignores your comments and nods approvingly at the men favors them for some fair reason you just can’t see.
Misogyny is a strange kind of bigotry in that it can thrive even in intimacy—it’s not ignorance that helps stoke it, the way a Trump voter may hate Mexicans for taking his job without ever having really gotten to know anyone of Mexican descent. It persists despite the deep familiarity of family and kin, as even the most horrifically sexist men having mothers and sisters and wives and girlfriends. That often makes it harder for women to spot: When you’re a fish living in water, do you know you’re wet? When it’s so common to write off the hatred and abuse of women as “locker room banter,” of course many women believe that lie, too–that boys are just being boys, that men don’t really mean what they say.
Enough. There are a great many men who don’t behave like Trump, who do treat women like human beings and not walking orifices. This isn’t a thing to be applauded or rewarded; it’s the baseline. That Trump falls so below it and is nonetheless the nominee for president from one of our two major parties should have women everywhere ready to riot. What does that say about how the GOP sees us?
We are so used to being told to wait our turn, to sacrifice for others, to give until it hurts. It’s far past time we said we aren’t going to give any harder–we aren’t going to look the other way and give up our basic dignity to enable a rise to power from a grotesque misogynist like Trump. And men—Trump’s base, at least among whites–shouldn’t be so willing to sacrifice women’s basic humanity for a political victory.
If the GOP truly respected women and believed that women shouldn’t be denigrated and assaulted, they would pull Trump from the ticket. But they won’t. And in the absence of that basic decency, it’s up to women ourselves, and the men who agree that we’re people, to say that Trump’s misogyny has gone on for too long and has finally gone too far.
Trump brags about grabbing pussies. He seems to forget that women also have claws.
Grabbing a woman's genitals without permission is sexual assault.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Sexual assault is any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Lindsey Graham ✔@LindseyGrahamSC
Name one sports team, university, publicly-held company, etc. that would accept a person like this as their standard bearer?
If Graham is going anti-republican then it obviously a hell of a lot worse than I realized.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/
There's that fuckin snopes again. Hacks.
There's that fuckin snopes again. Hacks.
Read the politifact article I linked. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/jul/17/did-hillary-clinton-ask-be-relieved-rapist/
I was just saying that Bernie or Biden would be running away with this if they were the democratic candidate. I really think after a few days we'll be back to normal and this will be old news.