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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Here is some new data from 538. As most of you know, Ohio, PA, MI, WI are all Catholic heavy states. This denomination has been a swing vote for several elections and they are far less reliably Republican than white Evangelicals. Trump has been trying to grab them as part of his strategy for capturing a few of the Big 10 states. One of the attractions of Kaine was the fact that he is a devout Catholic and has reconciled his faith with his politics. Anyway, look at this data. And this is before the past two weeks. I'm sure this is spiking even more towards HRC and baked into the recent state polls where she is widening her lead:
    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-driving-catholic-voters-toward-clinton/

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,166
    mrussel1 said:

    Here is some new data from 538. As most of you know, Ohio, PA, MI, WI are all Catholic heavy states. This denomination has been a swing vote for several elections and they are far less reliably Republican than white Evangelicals. Trump has been trying to grab them as part of his strategy for capturing a few of the Big 10 states. One of the attractions of Kaine was the fact that he is a devout Catholic and has reconciled his faith with his politics. Anyway, look at this data. And this is before the past two weeks. I'm sure this is spiking even more towards HRC and baked into the recent state polls where she is widening her lead:
    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-driving-catholic-voters-toward-clinton/

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    agreed....I'm interested to see how this McMullin guy effects Trumps polling. McMullin represents republicans that have already accepted that Trump is going to get trounced and gives them someone they can vote for without feeling guilty.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087

    lukin2006 said:

    I think you should have your head examined even for thinking of running for president .... the media puts you under a microscope in the states. That's what makes Trump running seem more like a joke gone wrong by him...most billionaires are just content contributing to the campaign and pulling the strings that way...

    What is amazing to me is that several of the 13 guys on Trump's economic team have contributed over $100K to Trump superPacs. After all that talk about how he couldn't be bought he puts the very people that bought him on his "economic team." I'm not seeing the outrage from the Trumpeters yet.
    Are the people supporting trump just disgruntled with the system overall and really don't care who's president as long as they are outside the republicans or Democratic Party? Usually these donors want something in return...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,166
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    He has said much worse. He's not even putting in the effort anymore.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,662

    He has said much worse. He's not even putting in the effort anymore.
    He does look pretty worn out. Sabotaging an election run is hard work.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    That's funny ... that just shows he's like most men, probably got distracted by a hot Detroit reporter. I think at this point it's safe to assume he won't win...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
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  • The Juggler
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    "MANY PEOPLE ARE SAYING"

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,166
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-responds-to-gop-national-security-letter
    Donald Trump responded to a letter signed by fifty national security experts and advisors who won't vote for the GOP nominee by saying that he "hadn’t planned on using any of these people."

    "I wasn’t using any of them and they would have loved to have been involved with the campaign," Trump said Tuesday morning in an interview on Fox Business, as reported by The Huffington Post. "Look at the terrible job they’ve done. I hadn’t planned on using any of these people."

    Trump dismissed the signees — a roster which includes high-profile figures such as former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, former CIA director Michael Hayden, and John Negroponte, the former Director of National Intelligence — as "Washington establishment people" who have left the United States a "mess" in terms of national defense.

    “They don’t feel relevant because of that and they form a group and they go out and try to get some publicity for themselves and they hope that somebody else other than Trump wins because that way they can get a job,” he said.

    The letter, originally reported Monday, slammed Trump as lacking "the character, values and experience to be president" and demonstrating "little understanding of America's vital national interests, its complex diplomatic challenges, its indispensable alliances, and the Democratic values on which U.S. foreign policy must be based."
    LOL...continuing the "I know you are but what am I" campaign strategy
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,166
    http://thehill.com/policy/finance/290825-clinton-to-criticize-trumps-plan-to-repeal-the-estate-tax

    If you need more evidence as to how stupid Trump is...look to his plan to repeal the estate tax.

    He just gave Clinton another target to blast him as favoring the rich.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,166
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290849-gop-lawmaker-voting-for-johnson-leaves-local-republican
    Rep. Scott Rigell (R-Va.), who is backing Libertarian Party presidential nominee Gary Johnson over GOP nominee Donald Trump, is resigning from the Republican Party of Virginia Beach after local officials considered removing him.

    “The wheels were in motion to remove me, so I thought it best to resign,” Rigell told a local TV station on Monday.
    “I understand and respect the party’s bylaws and how they apply to me,” he said.

    Rigell, who is retiring at the end of his term, last week became the first member of Congress to support Johnson, saying Americans are in desperate need of a third presidential option.

    “My conscious directed me to a different candidate after a long and deliberative process, and this is a consequence of that decision,” he said at the time. “I think the American people are desperate for a third alternative.”

    Rigell told MSNBC on Tuesday that Trump is a "true risk" to the U.S.
    None of this is happening on the Clinton side folks...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,166
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L0k2-kO_yc

    Pretty powerful message here....
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L0k2-kO_yc

    Pretty powerful message here....

    "they've got the wisdom, courage and pride..."

    Fuck yeah!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,662
    ^^^ :rofl: I kept waiting for the punchline, and it never happened. :lol:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,662
    edited August 2016
    quoting feature seems to be a little fucked up.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,166
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290867-collins-trump-will-make-world-more-dangerous

    Collins rips Drumpf a new one....
    Republican Sen. Susan Collins (Maine), explaining why she won't vote for Donald Trump, said Tuesday she believes the GOP nominee will make the world "more dangerous."

    "Donald Trump, in my judgment, would make a perilous world even more dangerous," Collins told CNN. "I worry that his tendency to lash out and his ill-informed comments would cause dangerous events to escalate and possibly spin out of control at a time when our world is beset with conflicts. That is a real problem."
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,559
    GF can now see into the future , HRC having a stroke damn I could hear Trump saying that but you lol damn your good lol
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,166
    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I think you should have your head examined even for thinking of running for president .... the media puts you under a microscope in the states. That's what makes Trump running seem more like a joke gone wrong by him...most billionaires are just content contributing to the campaign and pulling the strings that way...

    What is amazing to me is that several of the 13 guys on Trump's economic team have contributed over $100K to Trump superPacs. After all that talk about how he couldn't be bought he puts the very people that bought him on his "economic team." I'm not seeing the outrage from the Trumpeters yet.
    If he is willing to do the buying, then he is going to be willing to be bought. This is what he recently said during one of the debates:

    Q: You've also supported a host of other liberal policies, you've also donated to several Democratic candidates, Hillary Clinton included, Nancy Pelosi. You explained away those donations saying you did that to get business related favors. And you said recently, quote, when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.

    TRUMP: You better believe it... I will tell you that our system is broken. I gave to many people. Before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And you know what? When I need something from them, two years later, three years later, I call them. They are there for me. And that's a broken system.


    The fucking idiot is whining about a broken system that he is very consciously a contributor to and supporter of if it serves his purposes, and he doesn't even seem to notice the irony, lol.
    Yeah it's weird. I actually thought he was going to do what he said...self fund his campaign. He might have been a contender if that was the case.

    I don't think he has as much money as he says he has. If anything he is equity rich but that only gets you so far....he's cash poor for sure, that's why he promises to donate millions to charity and then never does.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I think you should have your head examined even for thinking of running for president .... the media puts you under a microscope in the states. That's what makes Trump running seem more like a joke gone wrong by him...most billionaires are just content contributing to the campaign and pulling the strings that way...

    What is amazing to me is that several of the 13 guys on Trump's economic team have contributed over $100K to Trump superPacs. After all that talk about how he couldn't be bought he puts the very people that bought him on his "economic team." I'm not seeing the outrage from the Trumpeters yet.
    If he is willing to do the buying, then he is going to be willing to be bought. This is what he recently said during one of the debates:

    Q: You've also supported a host of other liberal policies, you've also donated to several Democratic candidates, Hillary Clinton included, Nancy Pelosi. You explained away those donations saying you did that to get business related favors. And you said recently, quote, when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.

    TRUMP: You better believe it... I will tell you that our system is broken. I gave to many people. Before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And you know what? When I need something from them, two years later, three years later, I call them. They are there for me. And that's a broken system.


    The fucking idiot is whining about a broken system that he is very consciously a contributor to and supporter of if it serves his purposes, and he doesn't even seem to notice the irony, lol.
    Yeah it's weird. I actually thought he was going to do what he said...self fund his campaign. He might have been a contender if that was the case.

    I don't think he has as much money as he says he has. If anything he is equity rich but that only gets you so far....he's cash poor for sure, that's why he promises to donate millions to charity and then never does.
    I'm wondering if he has filed the FEC paperwork to forgive the loans he made to his campaign, like he promised. As of last month, he hadn't done it yet.
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