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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    benjs said:

    BS44325 said:

    benjs said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    I can't help but think that arrogance, pro-isolationist stances, flippancy, racism, sexism, and compulsive lying aren't exactly strong leading indicators for success. "Risky" change seems to be putting it incredibly nicely compared to the reality.
    The majority of the public isn't buying the racism/sexism charges...that card has been maxed out. The average person might agree with you on the arrogance, pro-isolationist stances, and flippancy but they see that as a feature and not a bug. The compulsive lying? I think the average person just doesn't care as they know he is not "ideological". They see it as a man who is winging it as he goes. Flip-flopping is an irrelevant charge against Trump because he is looked at as someone who will do what is necessary to"fix" things. If something doesn't work he will alter course and try again or even cut his losses and not pour in bad money after good. For better or worse this is where the public's head is at and to defeat him Hillary will have to take a far different course. She will have to sell herself.
    I guess you're right that pro-isolationism is being seen as a feature (since it's in line with nationalism). Flippancy is not exactly a great virtue for anyone attempting to maintain diplomatic relationships with foreign countries, nor is arrogance, but as you said, people may truly put nationalism on such a pedestal that these are moot points. With regards to the acceptance of his "winging it", this seems like a very short-sighted decision on the part of the public: anyone in any form of project management will tell you that changing your mind on a design at the eleventh hour is a costly venture (whether your cost is in effort or dollars) - I'd imagine that the POTUS exhibiting these tendencies would be a fiscal nightmare. All of this being said, sadly, I think your fairly low expectations of the public's perceptions are probably accurate, so I agree - the Clinton campaign must react pretty quickly if they wish to garner support.
    I agree with you on the project management front but the public keeps hearing about his buildings going up "on time and on budget" so he continues to get a pass on this issue.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.
    It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.

    Yes
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.
    It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.

    Yes
    why?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,687
    BS44325 said:

    I can't believe true republicans would vote for the idiot....just the idea of how he would promote his own business is disturbing.

    If he was a dem the republicans would be going nuclear on that side of the equation.

    There is no such thing as a dem with a business. That's why they're a dem to begin with!
    That's so wrong. I'm proof right in your face.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,071
    knowing that he asked why the US can't use nukes whenever they want should scare the fuck out of everyone in the country.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,687
    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.
    It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.

    Yes
    why?
    He's Canadian. It's not his chance to take.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138

    knowing that he asked why the US can't use nukes whenever they want should scare the fuck out of everyone in the country.

    we can't?
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    Jason P said:

    knowing that he asked why the US can't use nukes whenever they want should scare the fuck out of everyone in the country.

    we can't?
    actually, you can use them any time you want but the better question is why would you want to?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,071
    Jason P said:

    knowing that he asked why the US can't use nukes whenever they want should scare the fuck out of everyone in the country.

    we can't?
    sure you can. not as in "not allowed", but "why shouldn't we".

    he asked "if we have nuclear weapons why can't we use them?". he's an ignorant buffoon.
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  • BS44325 said:

    I can't believe true republicans would vote for the idiot....just the idea of how he would promote his own business is disturbing.

    If he was a dem the republicans would be going nuclear on that side of the equation.

    There is no such thing as a dem with a business. That's why they're a dem to begin with!
    So says a member of the international deplorable coalition.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.
    It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.

    Yes
    why?
    Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    I can't believe true republicans would vote for the idiot....just the idea of how he would promote his own business is disturbing.

    If he was a dem the republicans would be going nuclear on that side of the equation.

    There is no such thing as a dem with a business. That's why they're a dem to begin with!
    That's so wrong. I'm proof right in your face.
    You just played moby dick on my drum kit for real!
  • BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.
    It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.

    Yes
    why?
    Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
    Haha ha ha that's laughable Trump better for the good of this country haha ha , I'd rather be dead than pull the lever for Trump !!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • pjalive21 said:

    Kat said:

    The media created him...they need to uncreate him. If Trump wants a reality tv show, let's have reality take over. He hides too much about himself and lies and it's time to shine the bright light on everything about him. It's the Presidency. It's time.

    Replace Trump with Hillary and subtract reality tv show and that statement is 100% accurate


    You cant accuse Trump of hiding stuff when you have 30 years of the biggest fraud running for President
    The media didn't create Hillary. She was FLOTUS, got herself elected as a senator from New York and was Secretary of State. The media doesn't create that kind of track record, whether you like her/dislike her, support her or not or agree/disagree with her policies. If anything, the media, particularly the alt-right media, has been trying to destroy her for the past 25 years.
    Well, she was those things. What did she accomplish?
    My point wasn't about what she accomplished but rather whether the media created her. You can look up her senate voting record and work the CF does on your own and make your own determination about what's she's accomplished. My guess is is that it far surpasses anything you may have accomplished.
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.
    It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.

    Yes
    why?
    Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
    can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,687
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    I can't believe true republicans would vote for the idiot....just the idea of how he would promote his own business is disturbing.

    If he was a dem the republicans would be going nuclear on that side of the equation.

    There is no such thing as a dem with a business. That's why they're a dem to begin with!
    That's so wrong. I'm proof right in your face.
    You just played moby dick on my drum kit for real!
    I don't know what you mean, but I sure as hell would like to be able do anything JB could do... starting with drinking a fifth of Jack in a sitting.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,071
    dangerous times. jeez. we live in the most peaceful time in modern history. the media cycle creates this idea that there is a terrorist and pedophile on every corner.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.
    It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.

    Yes
    why?
    Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
    can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.
    I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,071
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.
    It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.

    Yes
    why?
    Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
    can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.
    I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.
    the fear has taken hold.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,687
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.
    It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.

    Yes
    why?
    Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
    can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.
    I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.
    I feel like you are trolling everyone here. You are not typically this unhinged in your comments.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,534
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.
    It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.

    Yes
    why?
    Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
    can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.
    I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.
    what storm are you referring too? what has you worried? what is worse today than it was 8 years ago when Obama took over?
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.
    It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.

    Yes
    why?
    Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
    can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.
    I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.
    can i ask what storm you are talking about? you have a guy who attacks people on twitter (should a president or prime minster ever be on twitter?) whenever he is attack, he will make your "storm" worse
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    dangerous times. jeez. we live in the most peaceful time in modern history. the media cycle creates this idea that there is a terrorist and pedophile on every corner.

    North Korea, Russia, China, Syria, Iran, ISIS, Venezuela, EU Collapse etc.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,154
    edited September 2016
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.
    It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.

    Yes
    why?
    Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
    can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.
    I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.
    BS, are you saying that the only positive with Trump is "maybe he's better", and that that's enough? Without this storm analogy, what actual risks are you feeling that Trump is prepared to take compared to Clinton? Also, in what ways has Clinton shown her incompetence (again, above and beyond the ways Trump has)? Finally, who has compromised her? Is she in bed with Putin? The Iranians?

    Edit: I see the threats you've listed above, my bad.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    A lot of Trump supporters are blinded by fear and ignorance so that they see him as a good alternative when they mix in magical thinking about his policies. There was an example the other day from Godfather where is was pointed out how Trumps policies would increase the deficit. He basically just said that his economic plan wouldn't really do that. Despite evidence against it. When Trump says crazy lies and unrealistic proposals, they say 'well he just speaks his mind', and that the crazy stuff won't manifest into some form of reality.
    It is the "ignorance" label that will lead to a Clinton loss.
    BS44325 said:

    fife said:

    sorry i have been away from here for a while and have tried to read everything posted but honestly, do people here really believe that Donald Trump would be a good president or are people just trying to have some fun?

    I don't think people on here think he will be a "good" president. This is where the misunderstanding of his support lies. People think the world is facing serious problems. These same people think that a Clinton will only result in more of the same. Trump is the risky change agent. He could be terrible but at least there is a possibility of "good" compared to the alternative which has already been judged to be a continuation of the status quo.
    so are you willing to take the chance that he will be a good president while knowing that no matter what he is going to be the president for 4 years.

    Yes
    why?
    Because we live in dangerous times and we are faced with a binary choice for these times. In my eyes Clinton is corrupt, incompetent and worst of all compromised. I see no upside in her election. Trump ticks me off equally in a whole number of ways but with him I see at least the possibility of upside. A fool's hope maybe but a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
    can i asked what upside you see with Trump? in "dangerous time" you want a steady hand and I don't see Trump as a steady hand but that is me.
    I am not sure a steady hand is what you want. A steady hand is what you want when you are sailing through a storm. The problem with that analogy is that most of the time the storm will pass so all you need to do is stay afloat. This storm ain't passing. Risks will need to be taken.
    I feel like you are trolling everyone here. You are not typically this unhinged in your comments.
    I don't think this is unhinged. It is pretty consistent to how I have always been on here. I am explaining why people like myself will support Trump even if they typically do not like him.
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    BS44325 said:

    dangerous times. jeez. we live in the most peaceful time in modern history. the media cycle creates this idea that there is a terrorist and pedophile on every corner.

    North Korea, Russia, China, Syria, Iran, ISIS, Venezuela, EU Collapse etc.
    what about those things you have listed to you think Trump will help improve?
  • pjalive21 said:

    Kat said:

    The media created him...they need to uncreate him. If Trump wants a reality tv show, let's have reality take over. He hides too much about himself and lies and it's time to shine the bright light on everything about him. It's the Presidency. It's time.

    Replace Trump with Hillary and subtract reality tv show and that statement is 100% accurate


    You cant accuse Trump of hiding stuff when you have 30 years of the biggest fraud running for President
    The media didn't create Hillary. She was FLOTUS, got herself elected as a senator from New York and was Secretary of State. The media doesn't create that kind of track record, whether you like her/dislike her, support her or not or agree/disagree with her policies. If anything, the media, particularly the alt-right media, has been trying to destroy her for the past 25 years.
    Well, she was those things. What did she accomplish?
    My point wasn't about what she accomplished but rather whether the media created her. You can look up her senate voting record and work the CF does on your own and make your own determination about what's she's accomplished. My guess is is that it far surpasses anything you may have accomplished.
    I am not running for president. My accomplishments are irrelevant to this discussion.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,071
    BS44325 said:

    dangerous times. jeez. we live in the most peaceful time in modern history. the media cycle creates this idea that there is a terrorist and pedophile on every corner.

    North Korea, Russia, China, Syria, Iran, ISIS, Venezuela, EU Collapse etc.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    BS44325 said:

    dangerous times. jeez. we live in the most peaceful time in modern history. the media cycle creates this idea that there is a terrorist and pedophile on every corner.

    North Korea, Russia, China, Syria, Iran, ISIS, Venezuela, EU Collapse etc.
    You left out Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia
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