Trump

Jearlpam0925

The Juggler said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Oh my goodness...

One day this past May, Donald Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., reached out to a senior adviser to Gov. John Kasich of Ohio, who left the presidential race just a few weeks before. As a candidate, Kasich declared in March that Trump was “really not prepared to be president of the United States,” and the following month he took the highly unusual step of coordinating with his rival Senator Ted Cruz in an effort to deny Trump the nomination. But according to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history?

When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy.

Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of?

“Making America great again” was the casual reply.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/magazine/how-donald-trump-picked-his-running-mate.html?_r=0

Came here to post this.

Is this proof that the guy just wants to win and doesn't want to actually govern? My god...

Exactly what it is - you read the New Yorker article about his ghost writer from Art of The Deal? Good shit.

rgambs

hedonist said:

Who's to say what is or isn't needed by someone else? It's all relative to me. Hell, you could earn a shitload of money but let's say you donate a chunk of it...or you need the funds for treatment of an illness...or to take care of elderly parents...or rebuild after a fire or earthquake...or...well, the list goes on.

Agreed that that amount of taxes paid would indicate a decent income, yet I can't help but get irritated by the "you don't need it" or "you should be happy with what you make" mindset.

If it's honestly earned, it's no one's business how it's chosen to be spent or saved or anything else.

Let's be honest, nobody who complains about their tax rate is doing so because it cuts into their charitable capacities.

Sorry, but that's simply not true, needs are objective, not subjective, those would be desires.

Honestly come by or not, it's pretty tacky to complain about losing what you want when there are so many who don't have what they need.
That is a terrible American habit that shows how spoiled we are as a society.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

josevolution

mattsl1983 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

mattsl1983 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

mattsl1983 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Listen, I get why a lot of old white folks in the middle of the country are angry and feel like America is passing them by. Quite frankly, it is. America is never going to be "great" again in the sense they are talking about. We are never going to have coal, oil and manufacturing jobs like we once did. Trump is not going to bring us back there. Paul Ryan is not going to bring us back there. No one is. That time is over. We live in a significantly different world and unless we want the cost of our goods to triple, we can't expect this country to build things like we once did.

The next generation of skilled works are going to be in infrastructure, healthcare, clean energy, and manufacturing in advanced technology that can't be outsourced.

It can't be an easy time for these folks, I get it, but things aren't going back to the way they were.

What?? Seriously what?? Again you didn't answer my question to your bold statement, but what are you talking about? Are you educated? Do you know how the economy works? What??

I am educated. College degree with some MBA work under my belt (probably not going to finish. Return isn't worth it). I work in a position in a rapidly growing industry that intersects technology and healthcare.

I am very aware of how the economy works. I am also aware that these folks who are so angry are also very happy with the prices at Walmart (that is not a shot at anyone). You can't have it both ways. Supply and demand...

What is so confusing about what I wrote?

You haven't stated at all how you've benefited, your response is completely vague, so yes, again. You said your life has been better ect ect, (not going to go back and exactly quote you, but will if it gets to that) and I've asked how. I'll just take your word for it

You asked how things have improved economically for me. I answered. What else do you want?

A few more bullet points outside of my economic improvements?

I am happy my mother in law no longer needs to worry about her health issues impacting her healthcare coverage

I am happy my taxes have remained consistent, though like I said, I am expecting them to increase in the near future

I am very happy for a gay couple we are very close with who are now happily married and parents

I am very very happy about the progress in Philadelphia. This city has a ton of work to do (especially if I am going to live within the city limits long term) but has grown tremendously since I moved here 10 years ago.

I am happy two of my very good high school friends are no longer overseas at war

There are also plenty of things I am unhappy about...education, poverty, etc., but the good of the past 8 years significantly outweighs the bad, for me personally. I am also not attributing a lot of this to Obama, though I very much think the Dems understand where this country is headed and are not just looking back at the good old days that aren't coming back.

The healthcare, you are lucky, you know the 1 out of the 100 that actually benefited from it.

Congrats on the tax's. I love paying 35% and love even more being demonized how I should pay more.

I really love that you see progress in Philli. I don't live in that city, or that state. That's a STATE RIGHT issue.

Happy the gays are married and divorcing. Again, to me STATE RIGHT.

I'm a vet. USN. We all serve knowing what we are getting into. And shit is worse now than it was 8 years ago.

You are kidding right you pay 35% in taxes you tell me how much your taxes will be lowered by Trump !

Jearlpam0925

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

Jearlpam0925

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

They're paying more like $43k in taxes =

10% Up to $18,550 = $1,855
15% $18,551 to $75,300 = $8,512
25% $75,301 to $151,900 = $19,150
28% $151,901 to $231,450 = $13,468

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

They're paying more like $43k in taxes =

10% Up to $18,550 = $1,855
15% $18,551 to $75,300 = $8,512
25% $75,301 to $151,900 = $19,150
28% $151,901 to $231,450 = $13,468

Thank you for the info.

Jearlpam0925

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

They're paying more like $43k in taxes =

10% Up to $18,550 = $1,855
15% $18,551 to $75,300 = $8,512
25% $75,301 to $151,900 = $19,150
28% $151,901 to $231,450 = $13,468

Thank you for the info.

Yeah, at the end of the day they're doing pretty friggin swell.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

They're paying more like $43k in taxes =

10% Up to $18,550 = $1,855
15% $18,551 to $75,300 = $8,512
25% $75,301 to $151,900 = $19,150
28% $151,901 to $231,450 = $13,468

Thank you for the info.

Yeah, at the end of the day they're doing pretty friggin swell.

They're are doing just fine.
Throw in a mortgage payment and 3 kids who all are going to college..

And your broke!
Haha

Jearlpam0925

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

They're paying more like $43k in taxes =

10% Up to $18,550 = $1,855
15% $18,551 to $75,300 = $8,512
25% $75,301 to $151,900 = $19,150
28% $151,901 to $231,450 = $13,468

Thank you for the info.

Yeah, at the end of the day they're doing pretty friggin swell.

They're are doing just fine.
Throw in a mortgage payment and 3 kids who all are going to college..

And your broke!
Haha

Haha. Well, yeah, start living the "American Dream" as many people think it should be lived, and sure - start taking on more than you can chew and that'll do it.

josevolution

mattsl1983 said:

rgambs said:

mattsl1983 said:

No, enlighten me on why we should bash everything the GOP does. Exactly. You don't know why. You are about to google some things, but your immediate reaction has no value. Go to the Hillary page, where you none thinkers belong!

I don't need Google to show me how inept this campaign is, and how scary the scapegoating of minorities and immigrants is becoming.

How so? And aside from that, only one of the candidates is currently under federal investigation. why would I want to support someone in that situation? It's dumb. How hard is it not to go under federal investigation? Seriously??? That's your racehorse??

You don't have to justify your support for the Trumpster you obviously agree with him ..
1- Mexicans are rapist & murderes
2- soldiers who get captured by the enemy should never be considered heroes ..
3- Muslims should be banned from entering this country .
4- women who have to have an abortion should be penalized ..
5- we have to build a wall

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

They're paying more like $43k in taxes =

10% Up to $18,550 = $1,855
15% $18,551 to $75,300 = $8,512
25% $75,301 to $151,900 = $19,150
28% $151,901 to $231,450 = $13,468

Thank you for the info.

Yeah, at the end of the day they're doing pretty friggin swell.

They're are doing just fine.
Throw in a mortgage payment and 3 kids who all are going to college..

And your broke!
Haha

Haha. Well, yeah, start living the "American Dream" as many people think it should be lived, and sure - start taking on more than you can chew and that'll do it.

People overspending and not knowing how to manage money.

A problem that certainly exists.

mrussel1

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

They're paying more like $43k in taxes =

10% Up to $18,550 = $1,855
15% $18,551 to $75,300 = $8,512
25% $75,301 to $151,900 = $19,150
28% $151,901 to $231,450 = $13,468

Thank you for the info.

Yes, but remember this is all before deductions which saves the middle class tax payer a ton of money. The mortgage interest deduction is enormous in this country. After my interest, plus charity, I get very close to max deductions. This greatly lowers the taxable income and lowers most families, with a house and kids, into the high teens for effective federal income tax.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

mrussel1 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

They're paying more like $43k in taxes =

10% Up to $18,550 = $1,855
15% $18,551 to $75,300 = $8,512
25% $75,301 to $151,900 = $19,150
28% $151,901 to $231,450 = $13,468

Thank you for the info.

Yes, but remember this is all before deductions which saves the middle class tax payer a ton of money. The mortgage interest deduction is enormous in this country. After my interest, plus charity, I get very close to max deductions. This greatly lowers the taxable income and lowers most families, with a house and kids, into the high teens for effective federal income tax.

Just a simple story.

For 5 years I have tried to get my property taxes adjusted. And each and every time I tried, it was denied. Well, yesterday, to my surprise, I received 2 nice checks in the mail for 2011 and 2012. I was told to expect 3 more checks.

Overpaying for 5 years, now has my wife and I planning our trip to Mexico. Haha

josevolution

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mrussel1 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

They're paying more like $43k in taxes =

10% Up to $18,550 = $1,855
15% $18,551 to $75,300 = $8,512
25% $75,301 to $151,900 = $19,150
28% $151,901 to $231,450 = $13,468

Thank you for the info.

Yes, but remember this is all before deductions which saves the middle class tax payer a ton of money. The mortgage interest deduction is enormous in this country. After my interest, plus charity, I get very close to max deductions. This greatly lowers the taxable income and lowers most families, with a house and kids, into the high teens for effective federal income tax.

Just a simple story.

For 5 years I have tried to get my property taxes adjusted. And each and every time I tried, it was denied. Well, yesterday, to my surprise, I received 2 nice checks in the mail for 2011 and 2012. I was told to expect 3 more checks.

Overpaying for 5 years, now has my wife and I planning our trip to Mexico. Haha

Get down there before the wall goes up after that who knows what will happen lol oh you are probably flying so no worries about crossing border glad you got some refunds on taxes ..

SPEEDY MCCREADY

josevolution said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mrussel1 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

They're paying more like $43k in taxes =

10% Up to $18,550 = $1,855
15% $18,551 to $75,300 = $8,512
25% $75,301 to $151,900 = $19,150
28% $151,901 to $231,450 = $13,468

Thank you for the info.

Yes, but remember this is all before deductions which saves the middle class tax payer a ton of money. The mortgage interest deduction is enormous in this country. After my interest, plus charity, I get very close to max deductions. This greatly lowers the taxable income and lowers most families, with a house and kids, into the high teens for effective federal income tax.

Just a simple story.

For 5 years I have tried to get my property taxes adjusted. And each and every time I tried, it was denied. Well, yesterday, to my surprise, I received 2 nice checks in the mail for 2011 and 2012. I was told to expect 3 more checks.

Overpaying for 5 years, now has my wife and I planning our trip to Mexico. Haha

Get down there before the wall goes up after that who knows what will happen lol oh you are probably flying so no worries about crossing border glad you got some refunds on taxes ..

Yeah, was pleasantly surprised yesterday. It was like winning the lottery. Well, a small lottery, but we decided a vacation is in order.

mrussel1

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mrussel1 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

They're paying more like $43k in taxes =

10% Up to $18,550 = $1,855
15% $18,551 to $75,300 = $8,512
25% $75,301 to $151,900 = $19,150
28% $151,901 to $231,450 = $13,468

Thank you for the info.

Yes, but remember this is all before deductions which saves the middle class tax payer a ton of money. The mortgage interest deduction is enormous in this country. After my interest, plus charity, I get very close to max deductions. This greatly lowers the taxable income and lowers most families, with a house and kids, into the high teens for effective federal income tax.

Just a simple story.

For 5 years I have tried to get my property taxes adjusted. And each and every time I tried, it was denied. Well, yesterday, to my surprise, I received 2 nice checks in the mail for 2011 and 2012. I was told to expect 3 more checks.

Overpaying for 5 years, now has my wife and I planning our trip to Mexico. Haha

Well that is excellent news! Congrats.

josevolution

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

josevolution said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mrussel1 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

They're paying more like $43k in taxes =

10% Up to $18,550 = $1,855
15% $18,551 to $75,300 = $8,512
25% $75,301 to $151,900 = $19,150
28% $151,901 to $231,450 = $13,468

Thank you for the info.

Yes, but remember this is all before deductions which saves the middle class tax payer a ton of money. The mortgage interest deduction is enormous in this country. After my interest, plus charity, I get very close to max deductions. This greatly lowers the taxable income and lowers most families, with a house and kids, into the high teens for effective federal income tax.

Just a simple story.

For 5 years I have tried to get my property taxes adjusted. And each and every time I tried, it was denied. Well, yesterday, to my surprise, I received 2 nice checks in the mail for 2011 and 2012. I was told to expect 3 more checks.

Overpaying for 5 years, now has my wife and I planning our trip to Mexico. Haha

Get down there before the wall goes up after that who knows what will happen lol oh you are probably flying so no worries about crossing border glad you got some refunds on taxes ..

Yeah, was pleasantly surprised yesterday. It was like winning the lottery. Well, a small lottery, but we decided a vacation is in order.

Nice any winnings is a good thing enjoy it !

PJ_Soul

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Is there a tax expert in the house?

Married couple making $200k a year pays basically 30% in tax. Is this correct? 200k basically puts you at 30%. Right? Or wrong?

Married joint filers it would be max 28%.

People gotta remember your total $200k isn't taxed at that level either.

10% Up to $18,550
15% $18,551 to $75,300
25% $75,301 to $151,900
28% $151,901 to $231,450

So a married couple making $200k is easily paying over $50k in taxes.

In other words $52k in taxes does not make someone the richest person on the board. Nor does it mean they make too much money.

Wait, you know who the richest person on the board is? (maybe it's you! If so, congrats!)
I didn't notice anyone say that they make too much (maybe I missed it). I think they were just saying it seems like enough, relatively speaking. I didn't see it as an attack on people with money, but rather just a response to complaining about paying taxes while being pretty well-off.