Pearl Jam's 1000th Performance?

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Blredyellow said:

    Fixer video was not a show or performance. Just a video filming.

    I wouldn't count VH1 Who Honors, either, to final total.

    Guess I just have high standards. :)

    I'm going to come up with a non-tv number later today just for comparison.
  • Blredyellow
    Blredyellow Posts: 843
    Realized PJ tour archive on 10c counts 94 SNL rehearsal. Also ... not a show/concert. :)
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,455
    Blredyellow said:

    Realized PJ tour archive on 10c counts 94 SNL rehearsal. Also ... not a show/concert. :)

    weird.

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited February 2016
    Ok kids...I crunched some more numbers for the history buffs out there.

    PJ has played a total of 28 TV/Radio/Award/Private shows that were included in my initial grand total "performance" number of 985 (No solo and/or partial group appearances were included in this number)

    Now some of you might like to throw out all 28 of these from the hard count but I would suggest at a minimum not discarding the following 4 shows:

    1) Austin City Limits 2009 - 11 songs in front of live audience. Watch the Sonic Highways episode on Austin and tell me that is not a concert!

    2) Ed Sullivan 2006 - 10 songs and much different from other Late Show appearances. Anyone on these boards who were at that one will certainly consider it to be a show and from what I remember it was understood they would play a long set for the crowd making it a high demand ticket.

    3) MTV Unplugged 1992 - To quote Ed at the end "This didn't feel like a tv show at all!"

    4) VH1 Rock Honors: The Who - Only 2 songs but it was a real venue and a real concert where they and other bands basically opened for The Who

    As far as what might be discarded: All other SNL/LateShow/Conan appearances, both Monkeywrench Radio gigs, The Impact Awards gig, The Fixer taping, and 4 live radio appearances that were in the initial count.

    So where does that leave us...

    1) If like me you think a performance is a performance then there have been 985 total and performance 1000 is Quebec City

    2) If you think ABSOLUTELY ZERO tv/radio/private/award gig should count i.e. Total Concert or Die! then they have played 957 total CONCERTS to date and 1000 will likely be next year or the year after.

    3) If you buy into the hybrid theory i.e. keep the 4 listed above in the hard count, then they have played 961 times or more/less depending how you feel. Fair opinion but it makes labeling show 1000 almost impossible as nobody will agree.

    My personal thought is that going with option 1, where everything is on the table, is the only way to get to a real 1000. Arguing over what is and what isn't a show will almost be impossible to settle.

    Edit - corrected post for double count I found on Livefootsteps
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  • ed243421
    ed243421 Posts: 7,730
    Option 3

    Except lose the 2 songs for the who

    That's an appearance

    Not a show IMO

    960
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,998
    BS44325 said:


    1) If like me you think a performance is a performance then there have been 986 total and performance 1000 is MSG2

    :dizzy:
    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
    2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
  • Blredyellow
    Blredyellow Posts: 843
    Good stuff, BS44325. :)

    I say 2 or 3. Will see what 10c says (if they do).
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Watch 10C say something like by their math the band's 1,000th show was two years ago.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,455
    what about the one show where Stone wasn't there? not full band. :look_at_the_time:
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,455
    or the show where Ed had food poisoning, turning it into a Neil Jam show? :look_at_the_time:
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  • ed243421
    ed243421 Posts: 7,730
    958
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,455
    :lol:
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  • P34RL J4MM3R
    P34RL J4MM3R Posts: 1,342
    ed243421 said:

    Option 3

    Except lose the 2 songs for the who

    That's an appearance

    Not a show IMO

    960

    I agree with ed243421. I'd really like to know the official numbers that 10C says, I'd not argue with that. I've tried to list show numbers on my PJ spreadsheet, and they always seem to change. Would be swell if 10C would label the concerts/appearances with numbers.
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  • odiedragon
    odiedragon Arena, WI Posts: 206
    Darn it all, I missed this thread completely.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    JimmyV said:

    Watch 10C say something like by their math the band's 1,000th show was two years ago.

    This is the only answer that is mathematically impossible.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    or the show where Ed had food poisoning, turning it into a Neil Jam show? :look_at_the_time:

    This is included in numbers and should. Food poisioning tried to get in the way but the show went on!
  • ed243421
    ed243421 Posts: 7,730
    No Ed

    No PJ
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    ed243421 said:

    No Ed

    No PJ

    No way. Ed was on stage for 7 songs. It's a PJ show that ended early!
  • odiedragon
    odiedragon Arena, WI Posts: 206
    edited February 2016
    I've only skimmed the rest of the thread (and we're all nuts) but without any other input from anyone official, I'd say we use the past tour setlists listed on this website.

    Which puts Mexico City '15 at 965. Wrigley Night 2 in August '16 would be 988.

    If PJ/10c lists the show as a setlist, it counts. If not, it doesn't. I mean, if they were going to do something (and that's equally possible and not possible) they'd use their count and ignore we crazies and our "This, but not that"s!
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    "The irony is that maybe someday they'll find exactly that... maybe that's a good thing." - Rosemont, IL 5/15/15
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  • ed243421
    ed243421 Posts: 7,730
    BS44325 said:

    ed243421 said:

    No Ed

    No PJ

    No way. Ed was on stage for 7 songs. It's a PJ show that ended early!
    Ok

    959
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









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