Pearl Jam's 1000th Performance?
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TV shows do not count. Doesn't matter if it's one song or 10. Only concerts count.
Would love to know show 1,000 but hard to tell because of missing shows, early history. 10c would need to figure it out to be official.0 -
Alright I'm glad we all decided that Wrigley 2 is their 1,000 show!Chicago 6/29/98, Alpine Valley(EV) 6/13/99, Alpine Valley 10/08/00, Chicago 10/09/00, Phoenix 10/20/00, Orlando 4/12/03, Tampa 4/13/03, San Diego 6/05/03, Vegas 6/06/03, Phoenix 6/07/03, Chicago 6/18/03, Alpine Valley 6/21/03, Orlando 10/08/04, D.C. 10/11/04, Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, LA 7/12/08, Chicago 8/23/09, Chicago 8/24/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09 (Front Row Center, Finally), Phoenix(EV) 11/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Phoenix 11/19/13, Denver 10/22/14, Wrigley 8/20/16, Wrigley 8/22/160
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Rumors that pj is headlining Osheaga fest in Montreal. Takes place July 29-31. Should be announced before end of the month.Summerfest 7/8/95
Missoula 6/20/98
Alpine Valley 6/26/98 & 6/27/98
Alpine Valley 10/8/00
Champaign 4/23/03
Alpine Valley 6/21/03
Missoula 8/29/05
Chicago 5/16 & 17/06
Grand Rapids 5/19/06
Summerfest 6/29/06 & 6/30/06
Tampa 6/12/08
Chicago 8/23/09
Indy 5/7/10
Alpine Valley x2 2011
Wrigley 2013
Milwaukee 14
Telluride 160 -
Sounds good to me!Foriginal Sin said:Alright I'm glad we all decided that Wrigley 2 is their 1,000 show!
Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
I'll take the opposite approach and says tv shows count. There is an audience and they are playing songs. Same thing as a full concert, but just shorter. Their early shows were 10 songs or less and they count even though they are much shorter than the current format of 30+ songs.severed hand thirteen2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/180 -
I hope not, the 25th anniversary was last October.SVRDhand13 said:I honestly don't think there's a way to know for sure and I think the band is more concerned with the 25th anniversary.
1998: East Troy 2000: East Troy, Rosemont 2003: Champaign 2006: Chicago (UC), Milwaukee 2007: Chicago (Lolla) 2009: Chicago (UC), Chicago (UC) 2010: Noblesville 2011: East Troy (PJ20), East Troy (PJ20) 2013: Chicago (WF), Seattle 2014: St. Louis 2016: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF) 2018: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF) 2022: St. Louis 2023: Chicago (UC), Chicago (UC) 2024: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF)2025: Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh0 -
I'm with you and for the record I am not the one picking and choosing what is a show and what is not. PJ Stat Tracker, Livefootsteps, Two Feet Thick and Setlist.fm ALL have included tv shows/in-stores/radio appaearances as shows. That has been the method of counting performances since the beginning of time and nobody quibbled with it. All I did was cross reference the sites, eliminate duplications and removed solo appearances or gigs where the whole band didn't appear. When you do that they have performed 985 times which makes Quebec City performance 1000.SVRDhand13 said:I'll take the opposite approach and says tv shows count. There is an audience and they are playing songs. Same thing as a full concert, but just shorter. Their early shows were 10 songs or less and they count even though they are much shorter than the current format of 30+ songs.
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If there is a public audience and they performed then it is a show. TV shows count. That those few instances would alter when their 1000 show is proves that, while fun to kick around, this remains an exercise in picking nits.___________________________________________
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I just asked someone with a low membership number and she says Wrigley 2 is the 1000th show. Case closed.
And you say membership numbers don't mean anything.92 - Orlando
03 - Tampa
08 - Tampa
12 - DeLuna Fest, EV Orlando 1 & 2, EV Ft Lauderdale 1 & 2
13 - Wrigley!!! ,Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford, OKC, Seattle
14 - Leeds, Milton Keynes, St Louis
16 - Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Wrigley 1 & 20 -
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Private band/charity shows are definitely shows.
I'm a PJ/rock historian in my spare time.TV appearances are NOT shows/concerts. End of discussion.
Anyone arguing otherwise never played in a band, booked concerts or understands the rock concert world.
If you do a 30-show tour and made a TV appearance (1, 5 songs -- doesn't matter), you played 30 CONCERTS. Not 31.
I'm gonna email 10c and see if they have a number. Maybe Demetrios can, too, since they seem to respond to him.
Fun discussion and good for PJ history. Nice to actually talk about music and not bitch about something like merch or tickets.0 -
So you wouldn't include MTV Unplugged?!Blredyellow said:Private band/charity shows are definitely shows.
I'm a PJ/rock historian in my spare time.TV appearances are NOT shows/concerts. End of discussion.
Anyone arguing otherwise never played in a band, booked concerts or understands the rock concert world.
If you do a 30-show tour and made a TV appearance (1, 5 songs -- doesn't matter), you played 30 CONCERTS. Not 31.
I'm gonna email 10c and see if they have a number. Maybe Demetrios can, too, since they seem to respond to him.
Fun discussion and good for PJ history. Nice to actually talk about music and not bitch about something like merch or tickets.0 -
+1Blredyellow said:Private band/charity shows are definitely shows.
I'm a PJ/rock historian in my spare time.TV appearances are NOT shows/concerts. End of discussion.
Anyone arguing otherwise never played in a band, booked concerts or understands the rock concert world.
If you do a 30-show tour and made a TV appearance (1, 5 songs -- doesn't matter), you played 30 CONCERTS. Not 31.
I'm gonna email 10c and see if they have a number. Maybe Demetrios can, too, since they seem to respond to him.
Fun discussion and good for PJ history. Nice to actually talk about music and not bitch about something like merch or tickets.First: ATL2 04/03/1994
Last: SEA2 08/10/2018
Next: ??
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The past tour page is not comprehensive. Just as an example...They only have one show listed in 1990 and all the other sites have them playing 3 that year.ehbacon said:ok I counted everything from the past tour page and it added up to 965 shows.
23 dates on the tour, so that would put us at 988 at the end of the tour, if I counted correctly.0 -
I would not count Unplugged. TV taping. Non-concert appearance.
But ... AWESOME.0 -
On awesome we can agree but c'mon...that was a show!Blredyellow said:I would not count Unplugged. TV taping. Non-concert appearance.
But ... AWESOME.0 -
I emailed 10c. Will post here if they respond. Hope they do, as PJ history is one of the most important things in the history of America and it'd be great to know where things stand in their eyes.
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Excellent. 1000 is coming. It would be cool to know when.Blredyellow said:I emailed 10c. Will post here if they respond. Hope they do, as PJ history is one of the most important things in the history of America and it'd be great to know where things stand in their eyes.
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30 concerts. 31 performances. 31 shows.Blredyellow said:Private band/charity shows are definitely shows.
I'm a PJ/rock historian in my spare time.TV appearances are NOT shows/concerts. End of discussion.
Anyone arguing otherwise never played in a band, booked concerts or understands the rock concert world.
If you do a 30-show tour and made a TV appearance (1, 5 songs -- doesn't matter), you played 30 CONCERTS. Not 31.
I'm gonna email 10c and see if they have a number. Maybe Demetrios can, too, since they seem to respond to him.
Fun discussion and good for PJ history. Nice to actually talk about music and not bitch about something like merch or tickets.severed hand thirteen2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/180
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