Why do people keep ignoring the fact that Eddie already stated that they did there 999th show back in the last Europe tour and he didn't even mention it in the next show about it being 1000th. I am willing to bet the band does not give a shit about this and neither should we.
No Ive read it. If I missed where someone mentioned the stats form the app then forgive me. Not sure what all is considered a "show" but since this is coming directly from the app I'd think it is the most accurate.
And these are not from PJ Stat Tracker. They are form the iphone app.
No Ive read it. If I missed where someone mentioned the stats form the app then forgive me. Not sure what all is considered a "show" but since this is coming directly from the app I'd think it is the most accurate.
And these are not from PJ Stat Tracker. They are form the iphone app.
Why do people keep ignoring the fact that Eddie already stated that they did there 999th show back in the last Europe tour and he didn't even mention it in the next show about it being 1000th. I am willing to bet the band does not give a shit about this and neither should we.
Nobody is ignoring this. It has been discussed and the number is verifiably wrong. They haven't reached 1000 yet no matter how you count it. Everyone also agrees that the band probably doesn't give a shit...this is just a fan curiosity.
No Ive read it. If I missed where someone mentioned the stats form the app then forgive me. Not sure what all is considered a "show" but since this is coming directly from the app I'd think it is the most accurate.
And these are not from PJ Stat Tracker. They are form the iphone app.
Why do people keep ignoring the fact that Eddie already stated that they did there 999th show back in the last Europe tour and he didn't even mention it in the next show about it being 1000th. I am willing to bet the band does not give a shit about this and neither should we.
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
Did you add this to the list. It's no longer quebec for those who thought it was.
Pearl Jam came out to the north shore of Oahu, Hawaii just after I won my 8th world surfing title. They played a private show for about 3-400 people at Waimea a couple nights before their own gig and opening a show for U2. Quote Kelly slater
Did you add this to the list. It's no longer quebec for those who thought it was.
Pearl Jam came out to the north shore of Oahu, Hawaii just after I won my 8th world surfing title. They played a private show for about 3-400 people at Waimea a couple nights before their own gig and opening a show for U2. Quote Kelly slater
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.
The author used livefootsteps.org which was one of the sites in my cross-referencing.
We have no idea what PJ 1000th show will be... or if it's happened.* There have been shows they kept on the DL (like the Oracle thing) and there's probably more early promo mini-sets we don't know about. I'm more excited that they are still around playing 3+ hour shows than that they hit 1000.
*If everything was recorded as some have claimed, then someone at basecamp could figure it out.
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.
The author used livefootsteps.org which was one of the sites in my cross-referencing.
There have been many discrepancies in regards to Pearl Jam’s shows over the years, even on their own site. There’s been inconsistencies as to what shows should are counted….were they an Eddie solo show, full band, private get together, a radio show, etc. We at Livefootsteps may go by a different count from other sites but we look to include live shows with an audience (a performance if you want to use that word). We count where Eddie played with at least one other band member, be it a tribute show, arena show, or a benefit. We aren’t sure why Eddie believed the Europe 2014 tour included their 1000th show, but by all accounts, that does not appear to be accurate. Maybe he was counting solo shows in that count.
We're all about live performances, but we are just fans like you guys, and we don’t claim to be an authoritative figure….we certainly aren't perfect. We are in the process of removing some shows that were previously billed by other sources as a full band show (but should be counted as an Eddie solo show) and in the future we plan to move these to a subset within the site. Though our numbers aren't currently reflecting the removal of these misbilled shows, we are also missing an equal amount of full band shows and thus still brings the 1000th show to be Quebec City 2016 by our calculations. No one site is perfect, we understand this and sometime in the future another show may come to light shifting all we know. For now, we agree with you BS44325, that May 5th, 2016 will be the show.
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.
The author used livefootsteps.org which was one of the sites in my cross-referencing.
There have been many discrepancies in regards to Pearl Jam’s shows over the years, even on their own site. There’s been inconsistencies as to what shows should are counted….were they an Eddie solo show, full band, private get together, a radio show, etc. We at Livefootsteps may go by a different count from other sites but we look to include live shows with an audience (a performance if you want to use that word). We count where Eddie played with at least one other band member, be it a tribute show, arena show, or a benefit. We aren’t sure why Eddie believed the Europe 2014 tour included their 1000th show, but by all accounts, that does not appear to be accurate. Maybe he was counting solo shows in that count.
We're all about live performances, but we are just fans like you guys, and we don’t claim to be an authoritative figure….we certainly aren't perfect. We are in the process of removing some shows that were previously billed by other sources as a full band show (but should be counted as an Eddie solo show) and in the future we plan to move these to a subset within the site. Though our numbers aren't currently reflecting the removal of these misbilled shows, we are also missing an equal amount of full band shows and thus still brings the 1000th show to be Quebec City 2016 by our calculations. No one site is perfect, we understand this and sometime in the future another show may come to light shifting all we know. For now, we agree with you BS44325, that May 5th, 2016 will be the show.
Dave livefootsteps.org
Wow Dave...much thanks for the thoughtful response. Livefootsteps has been an invaluable resource in nailing down this 1000th performance and I appreciate you taking the time to look into the data. Keep up the great work at livefootsteps and if you happen to come across anything that does shift the calculus by all means let us know!
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.
The author used livefootsteps.org which was one of the sites in my cross-referencing.
We count where Eddie played with at least one other band member, be it a tribute show, arena show, or a benefit.
I think the big conclusion is you need to agree on a method and then apply as everyone looks at it different. As, example using the criteria of EV playing with 1 other band member I assume 10-16-92 (Dylan Tribute with Mike) is in the count though they played 1 song. If that is the case then a show like 4-8-08 which was EV solo show but Mike played 2 songs with him is that in the count? What about Boom if he played with EV does that count? What about 9-21-01 because it included non-member as well it doesn't count? Maybe the new qualification is who was "billed" and if more then 1 member it counts and can't include another performer? Just having some fun......and great site Dave!
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.
The author used livefootsteps.org which was one of the sites in my cross-referencing.
We count where Eddie played with at least one other band member, be it a tribute show, arena show, or a benefit.
I think the big conclusion is you need to agree on a method and then apply as everyone looks at it different. As, example using the criteria of EV playing with 1 other band member I assume 10-16-92 (Dylan Tribute with Mike) is in the count though they played 1 song. If that is the case then a show like 4-8-08 which was EV solo show but Mike played 2 songs with him is that in the count? What about Boom if he played with EV does that count? What about 9-21-01 because it included non-member as well it doesn't count? Maybe the new qualification is who was "billed" and if more then 1 member it counts and can't include another performer? Just having some fun......and great site Dave!
From my understanding, and maybe Dave can clarify, is that those shows were included in the livefootsteps initial count but now that he's gone back and looked it over those shows will eventually be transferred to a different subsection. To be clear, my count did NOT include Ed solos performances or performances where it was Eddie with just one or two other people. I weeded those performances out of the livefootsteps count and added back on performances that were missed. When you do this total performance number to date still comes back to 985.
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.
The author used livefootsteps.org which was one of the sites in my cross-referencing.
We count where Eddie played with at least one other band member, be it a tribute show, arena show, or a benefit.
I think the big conclusion is you need to agree on a method and then apply as everyone looks at it different. As, example using the criteria of EV playing with 1 other band member I assume 10-16-92 (Dylan Tribute with Mike) is in the count though they played 1 song. If that is the case then a show like 4-8-08 which was EV solo show but Mike played 2 songs with him is that in the count? What about Boom if he played with EV does that count? What about 9-21-01 because it included non-member as well it doesn't count? Maybe the new qualification is who was "billed" and if more then 1 member it counts and can't include another performer? Just having some fun......and great site Dave!
From my understanding, and maybe Dave can clarify, is that those shows were included in the livefootsteps initial count but now that he's gone back and looked it over those shows will eventually be transferred to a different subsection. To be clear, my count did NOT include Ed solos performances or performances where it was Eddie with just one or two other people. I weeded those performances out of the livefootsteps count and added back on performances that were missed. When you do this total performance number to date still comes back to 985.
BS44325, That's correct we have about 5 shows that we have to find the chance to move out into a Eddie solos page. But at the same time we have 5 shows that should have been counted. It's quite a daunting task with the tour coming up to take on that task of swaping out the shows needed. I want it to be as seamless as possible so everyone keeps their correct shows they've attended without asking everyone to renter their shows. If you have different numbers please let us know. We do this for the love of the band, sadly not my only job and there's never enough time to do what is needed.
I was listening to pj radio the other day and ed said "I hear this is our 999th show" and I think it was from 2014. It made me think of this thread. Anyone else catch that on oj radio?
Does anyone know if the band cares? Its cool if it's important to the fan but what about the band? Thanks
I was listening to pj radio the other day and ed said "I hear this is our 999th show" and I think it was from 2014. It made me think of this thread. Anyone else catch that on oj radio?
Does anyone know if the band cares? Its cool if it's important to the fan but what about the band? Thanks
I don't think the band cares and doubt it will be mentioned...this is just based on fan curiosity. The show you mentioned has been discussed if you read through the thread and the math just doesn't add up to support Ed's statement.
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Columbus-2003
Cincinnati-2006
Columbus-2010
Wrigley-2013
Cincinnati-2014
Lexington-2016
Wrigley 1 & 2-2018
Columbus-2003
Cincinnati-2006
Columbus-2010
Wrigley-2013
Cincinnati-2014
Lexington-2016
Wrigley 1 & 2-2018
So, we will probably never know the exact number then.
http://www.alternativenation.net/given-to-fly-25-years-of-pearl-jam/
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.
livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446
1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
Pearl Jam came out to the north shore of Oahu, Hawaii just after I won my 8th world surfing title. They played a private show for about 3-400 people at Waimea a couple nights before their own gig and opening a show for U2. Quote Kelly slater
*If everything was recorded as some have claimed, then someone at basecamp could figure it out.
We're all about live performances, but we are just fans like you guys, and we don’t claim to be an authoritative figure….we certainly aren't perfect. We are in the process of removing some shows that were previously billed by other sources as a full band show (but should be counted as an Eddie solo show) and in the future we plan to move these to a subset within the site. Though our numbers aren't currently reflecting the removal of these misbilled shows, we are also missing an equal amount of full band shows and thus still brings the 1000th show to be Quebec City 2016 by our calculations. No one site is perfect, we understand this and sometime in the future another show may come to light shifting all we know. For now, we agree with you BS44325, that May 5th, 2016 will be the show.
Dave
livefootsteps.org
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LIVEFOOTSTEPS.ORG/USER/?USR=1SHOW COUNT: (149) 1990's=3, 2000's=53, 2010/20's=89, US=109, CAN=15, Europe=19 ,New Zealand=2, Australia=2
Mexico=1, Colombia=1
Upcoming: Sacramento, Vegas x2, Manchester, London, Chicago x2, NYC x2, Fenway x2, Ohana x2 Aucklandx2, Gold Coast, Melbournex2
That's correct we have about 5 shows that we have to find the chance to move out into a Eddie solos page. But at the same time we have 5 shows that should have been counted. It's quite a daunting task with the tour coming up to take on that task of swaping out the shows needed. I want it to be as seamless as possible so everyone keeps their correct shows they've attended without asking everyone to renter their shows. If you have different numbers please let us know. We do this for the love of the band, sadly not my only job and there's never enough time to do what is needed.
SHARE YOUR STATS:
LIVEFOOTSTEPS.ORG/USER/?USR=1After Jacksonville there have been 989 total performances.
Does anyone know if the band cares? Its cool if it's important to the fan but what about the band?
Thanks