**The REAL Donald Trump for President Thread!**
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exactly....and imagine if Hillary had filed bankruptcy FOUR TIMES in any of her business ventures.callen said:
Have enjoyed Trumps bashing of rights past positions and members. The McCain thing was Funny. And he got away with it. Imagine Obama saying this?CH156378 said:I don't support Donald Trump for President. I do however, in keeping with the spirit of the thread**!!**, appreciate what Trump has said about Jeb and the Iraq war. "Disaster, No energy" ect, ect.
A person who brags about being worth $10 billion just begs the question of "why didn't you make good on your debts now that your net worth is sufficient?"
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Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
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He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
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Hey he's good at working the system. Now how much of his wealth was created or saved by creditors loosing on debts or worse how much was funded by government?davidtrios said:
He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
If Trump ran on his business acumen well he'd get more respect but when he realizes he can't garner enough votes and goes fear factor on insecure, well than he's shit. Add some bankruptcies and double shit. In my book.
BUT to your actual question? Money is not a success factor for me. Spending time with humans I love, tinkering on oily car parts and breathing in nature is success to me. Chasing money/position is exhausting and never fulfilling.Post edited by callen on10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
That says zero about his character. Well, actually no, it says a lot. It means he is driven by money, self absorbed and out of touch with any kind of reality on how average people live their lives.davidtrios said:
He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
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I dunno, maybe being someone who tells the truth and is able to control the words coming out of their mouth?davidtrios said:
He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
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he was born into a lot of that, and had advisers do the rest for him.davidtrios said:
He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
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actually his net worth is overstated....a lot based on overstated real estate values, etc.
If he had to liquidate everything he would still be a billionaire but probably only $2 billion or so.
Based on what he inherited he has actually done a real shitty job managing his wealth. He would have been better off parking his Dad's $$ in a money market and playing xbox.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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I don't see a person's net worth as necessarily saying one thing or another about their character (the right person with a lot of money can do a lot of good) and therefor says little about their ability to be an effective leader. I wish we could remove the money factor from politics all together.
So can we talk about Trump in terms of his character? Do you think he is a man who cares for the well being of all the people? Do you think he cares about the well being of people who are less fortunate or who are victims of cruelty, abuse or atrocities? Do you think he cares about the equality of women? And of equal importance, do you think he cares about the lives and well being of other species with whom we share this planet?"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
These questions are rhetorical right? The answer to them is almost assuredly (more accurate to say resoundingly) 'no'.brianlux said:I don't see a person's net worth as necessarily saying one thing or another about their character (the right person with a lot of money can do a lot of good) and therefor says little about their ability to be an effective leader. I wish we could remove the money factor from politics all together.
So can we talk about Trump in terms of his character? Do you think he is a man who cares for the well being of all the people? Do you think he cares about the well being of people who are less fortunate or who are victims of cruelty, abuse or atrocities? Do you think he cares about the equality of women? And of equal importance, do you think he cares about the lives and well being of other species with whom we share this planet?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Funny you should say that because when I previewed my post (a highly recommended practice) these questions sounded rhetorical to me too. But to be honest, my original intent was for them to be straight up questions to those who support Trump. Of course waiting for straight up answers might take us into the next year.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
These questions are rhetorical right? The answer to them is almost assuredly (more accurate to say resoundingly) 'no'.brianlux said:I don't see a person's net worth as necessarily saying one thing or another about their character (the right person with a lot of money can do a lot of good) and therefor says little about their ability to be an effective leader. I wish we could remove the money factor from politics all together.
So can we talk about Trump in terms of his character? Do you think he is a man who cares for the well being of all the people? Do you think he cares about the well being of people who are less fortunate or who are victims of cruelty, abuse or atrocities? Do you think he cares about the equality of women? And of equal importance, do you think he cares about the lives and well being of other species with whom we share this planet?"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
As ALL politicians…eddiec said:
That says zero about his character. Well, actually no, it says a lot. It means he is driven by money, self absorbed and out of touch with any kind of reality on how average people live their lives.davidtrios said:
He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
As All politicians…rgambs said:
I dunno, maybe being someone who tells the truth and is able to control the words coming out of their mouth?davidtrios said:
He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
As ALL politicians...ehbacon said:
he was born into a lot of that, and had advisers do the rest for him.davidtrios said:
He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
I'm just pointing out the obvious here...0 -
No. Not all politicians are billionaire developers and businessmen. Most politicians...well...are politicians. Trump is not. We are examining his character in this thread.tempo_n_groove said:
As ALL politicians…eddiec said:
That says zero about his character. Well, actually no, it says a lot. It means he is driven by money, self absorbed and out of touch with any kind of reality on how average people live their lives.davidtrios said:
He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
As All politicians…rgambs said:
I dunno, maybe being someone who tells the truth and is able to control the words coming out of their mouth?davidtrios said:
He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
As ALL politicians...ehbacon said:
he was born into a lot of that, and had advisers do the rest for him.davidtrios said:
He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
I'm just pointing out the obvious here...
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I don't know much about mr. Trump but I think that there's something about his personality that's not suitable for a president..I read somewhere that Putin likes Trump, maybe they're pals.Post edited by Annafalk on0
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He has definitely made comments that suggest he does care about less fortunate people.brianlux said:I don't see a person's net worth as necessarily saying one thing or another about their character (the right person with a lot of money can do a lot of good) and therefor says little about their ability to be an effective leader. I wish we could remove the money factor from politics all together.
So can we talk about Trump in terms of his character? Do you think he is a man who cares for the well being of all the people? Do you think he cares about the well being of people who are less fortunate or who are victims of cruelty, abuse or atrocities? Do you think he cares about the equality of women? And of equal importance, do you think he cares about the lives and well being of other species with whom we share this planet?
Take those comments along with his anti everything-not-white-christian comments and he's still un-electable.0 -
These politicians sure do have a lot more money than I do... Politics must be booming!eddiec said:
No. Not all politicians are billionaire developers and businessmen. Most politicians...well...are politicians. Trump is not. We are examining his character in this thread.tempo_n_groove said:
As ALL politicians…eddiec said:
That says zero about his character. Well, actually no, it says a lot. It means he is driven by money, self absorbed and out of touch with any kind of reality on how average people live their lives.davidtrios said:
He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
As All politicians…rgambs said:
I dunno, maybe being someone who tells the truth and is able to control the words coming out of their mouth?davidtrios said:
He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
As ALL politicians...ehbacon said:
he was born into a lot of that, and had advisers do the rest for him.davidtrios said:
He's worth 10billion dollars, what's a success to you?callen said:
Using or abusing? Do I blame him? No. BUT do place Trump in with failed business people. Good businesses don't file.tempo_n_groove said:
Can't blame trump for actually using the tax laws that are in place.Who Princess said:He was also born wealthy. It's easy to lose a small fortune when you start with a big one. He's also one of the worst users of corporate welfare--tax breaks to build his hotels and casinos.
I'm just pointing out the obvious here...
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2014/01/millionaires-club-for-first-time-most-lawmakers-are-worth-1-million-plus/0 -
It was predatory lending.Gern Blansten said:
exactly....and imagine if Hillary had filed bankruptcy FOUR TIMES in any of her business ventures.callen said:
Have enjoyed Trumps bashing of rights past positions and members. The McCain thing was Funny. And he got away with it. Imagine Obama saying this?CH156378 said:I don't support Donald Trump for President. I do however, in keeping with the spirit of the thread**!!**, appreciate what Trump has said about Jeb and the Iraq war. "Disaster, No energy" ect, ect.
A person who brags about being worth $10 billion just begs the question of "why didn't you make good on your debts now that your net worth is sufficient?"
. Thought people on here would be happy the big banks lost
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Do the big banks really lose or is it the average middle to lower income investor trying to get by?bootlegger10 said:
It was predatory lending.Gern Blansten said:
exactly....and imagine if Hillary had filed bankruptcy FOUR TIMES in any of her business ventures.callen said:
Have enjoyed Trumps bashing of rights past positions and members. The McCain thing was Funny. And he got away with it. Imagine Obama saying this?CH156378 said:I don't support Donald Trump for President. I do however, in keeping with the spirit of the thread**!!**, appreciate what Trump has said about Jeb and the Iraq war. "Disaster, No energy" ect, ect.
A person who brags about being worth $10 billion just begs the question of "why didn't you make good on your debts now that your net worth is sufficient?". Thought people on here would be happy the big banks lost"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Probably everyone gets a piece of it. All that money borrowed went to pay for construction and operations so it probably got to the middle and lower class to some extent through wages.brianlux said:
Do the big banks really lose or is it the average middle to lower income investor trying to get by?bootlegger10 said:
It was predatory lending.Gern Blansten said:
exactly....and imagine if Hillary had filed bankruptcy FOUR TIMES in any of her business ventures.callen said:
Have enjoyed Trumps bashing of rights past positions and members. The McCain thing was Funny. And he got away with it. Imagine Obama saying this?CH156378 said:I don't support Donald Trump for President. I do however, in keeping with the spirit of the thread**!!**, appreciate what Trump has said about Jeb and the Iraq war. "Disaster, No energy" ect, ect.
A person who brags about being worth $10 billion just begs the question of "why didn't you make good on your debts now that your net worth is sufficient?". Thought people on here would be happy the big banks lost0 -
Wrong thread on the wrong site,lol. Voting for a guy on a reality tv show says it all. If you want to go backwards then by all means.0
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