Scott Weiland has passed

HughFreakingDillon

Merkin Baller said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I really wish people would stop with the "not surprising" bullshit. it's pretty disrespectful. the guy was clean. he may have died of a heart attack related to years of abuse, or maybe he did fall off the wagon one last time. we don't know yet.

It may be disrespectful in your opinion, but the fact is I'm not surprised to hear that someone who has had a well documented history of drug problems died at 48.

I wasn't surprised when Layne Staley died, I wasn't surprised when Mark Sandman died & I'm not surprised today.

Sad loss of an amazing talent, but not surprising in the least.

How do you know he was clean?

he had been clean for some time. if he hadn't been, it would have shown up in his recent performances, like it always has. people who have met him backstage for meet and greets have stated that he was sober. like I also said, maybe he fell off the wagon one last time. it happens. I'm just saying that people saying they aren't surprised is, to me, akin to saying "oh well".

RS65573

3days said:

Very sad indeed. Although people will remember some of the hiccups, it seemed like Scott and life were starting to play nicely together. I feel for his family and friends. No judgement, we do the best we can while we're here.

Well said. I really like that...
"we do the best we can while we're here"

OMGkatwoman

RS65573 said:

3days said:

Very sad indeed. Although people will remember some of the hiccups, it seemed like Scott and life were starting to play nicely together. I feel for his family and friends. No judgement, we do the best we can while we're here.

Well said. I really like that...
"we do the best we can while we're here"

This !!!^^^^

Merkin Baller

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I really wish people would stop with the "not surprising" bullshit. it's pretty disrespectful. the guy was clean. he may have died of a heart attack related to years of abuse, or maybe he did fall off the wagon one last time. we don't know yet.

It may be disrespectful in your opinion, but the fact is I'm not surprised to hear that someone who has had a well documented history of drug problems died at 48.

I wasn't surprised when Layne Staley died, I wasn't surprised when Mark Sandman died & I'm not surprised today.

Sad loss of an amazing talent, but not surprising in the least.

How do you know he was clean?

he had been clean for some time. if he hadn't been, it would have shown up in his recent performances, like it always has. people who have met him backstage for meet and greets have stated that he was sober. like I also said, maybe he fell off the wagon one last time. it happens. I'm just saying that people saying they aren't surprised is, to me, akin to saying "oh well".

Fair enough. I don't know if he was clean or not, I only know some of his history.

I have sympathy for his family & friends, for sure. A loss of life is a loss of life, I don't mean to sound disrespectful or callous, just stating how I feel.

PP193448

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I really wish people would stop with the "not surprising" bullshit. it's pretty disrespectful. the guy was clean. he may have died of a heart attack related to years of abuse, or maybe he did fall off the wagon one last time. we don't know yet.

It may be disrespectful in your opinion, but the fact is I'm not surprised to hear that someone who has had a well documented history of drug problems died at 48.

I wasn't surprised when Layne Staley died, I wasn't surprised when Mark Sandman died & I'm not surprised today.

Sad loss of an amazing talent, but not surprising in the least.

How do you know he was clean?

he had been clean for some time. if he hadn't been, it would have shown up in his recent performances, like it always has. people who have met him backstage for meet and greets have stated that he was sober. like I also said, maybe he fell off the wagon one last time. it happens. I'm just saying that people saying they aren't surprised is, to me, akin to saying "oh well".

Big high profile celebrity with lots of money drug addict found dead (clean or not)... Yeah, it's not surprising... It's sad. But why do people care more about it than the non celebrity person in your own neighborhood. I don't think this guy deserves any more concern than those that are not sensationalized by celebrity status.

What's your next thread going to be... Poor Charlie Sheen has HIV. Oh, pity pity for him...give me a break.

HughFreakingDillon

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I really wish people would stop with the "not surprising" bullshit. it's pretty disrespectful. the guy was clean. he may have died of a heart attack related to years of abuse, or maybe he did fall off the wagon one last time. we don't know yet.

It may be disrespectful in your opinion, but the fact is I'm not surprised to hear that someone who has had a well documented history of drug problems died at 48.

I wasn't surprised when Layne Staley died, I wasn't surprised when Mark Sandman died & I'm not surprised today.

Sad loss of an amazing talent, but not surprising in the least.

How do you know he was clean?

he had been clean for some time. if he hadn't been, it would have shown up in his recent performances, like it always has. people who have met him backstage for meet and greets have stated that he was sober. like I also said, maybe he fell off the wagon one last time. it happens. I'm just saying that people saying they aren't surprised is, to me, akin to saying "oh well".

Big high profile celebrity with lots of money drug addict found dead (clean or not)... Yeah, it's not surprising... It's sad. But why do people care more about it than the non celebrity person in your own neighborhood. I don't think this guy deserves any more concern than those that are not sensationalized by celebrity status.

What's your next thread going to be... Poor Charlie Sheen has HIV. Oh, pity pity for him...give me a break.

people have an emotional connection to musical artists, that's why. no, it's not anymore tragic than the addict down the street that no one knew, but it's of interest because of how he affected our lives through music.

get a grip.

HesCalledDyer

Well said, Hugh!

steved

Guys, Lets not get into arguments about respect or disrespect, about celebrity or non celebrity and addiction. No one life or death is more valuable than another. As a man in recovery I see miracles and tragedies all of the time, to the families of those people I assure you nobody cares if you are a Rock star or not, however we are celebrating, or mourning the life of someone who has impacted our lives in some way through the art of music. That is different. We all feel a connection to this man in someway through the songs or experiences we have shared along the way. It does not elevate his importance as a man, but as a musician his life has touched us, and we can show our appreciation, or anger, sadness, or whatever we choose to feel without arguing about it with each other please. To me he will be missed greatly!

Merkin Baller

steved said:

Guys, Lets not get into arguments about respect or disrespect, about celebrity or non celebrity and addiction. No one life or death is more valuable than another. As a man in recovery I see miracles and tragedies all of the time, to the families of those people I assure you nobody cares if you are a Rock star or not, however we are celebrating, or mourning the life of someone who has impacted our lives in some way through the art of music. That is different. We all feel a connection to this man in someway through the songs or experiences we have shared along the way. It does not elevate his importance as a man, but as a musician his life has touched us, and we can show our appreciation, or anger, sadness, or whatever we choose to feel without arguing about it with each other please. To me he will be missed greatly!

Well said.

bootlegger10

Many years ago I would have said he was just another talented junkie who deserved his fate. But now I think he just made a series of mistakes (his own fault I'm sure) and unfortunately those mistakes led to a drug habit he was not strong enough to beat.

Those first three albums from STP were amazing. Right up there with any music Pearl Jam put out.

This is a good reminder of how fortunate we are to follow a band like Pearl Jam where the members are all really great people and were able to stay or get away from these negative influences. Not coincidentally they have the biggest fan base from that era.

PJ_Soul

This really sucks. First, of course, I feel for everyone who cared about him on a personal and/or professional level.
Secondly, Core and Plush are amazing albums, and it's hard when the front man of a band you feel a connection to dies, especially so young. I guess it can be easy to imagine that our bodies will just keep on truckin' no matter what we do to them, especially when we spend a lot of life in a drug induced haze. Very sad. That poor band and crew who were touring with him. That's gotta be traumatic.

steved

These are all of the TV performances from 93-96 in the best quality possible.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V8byrCgi0Y

CPR7

I was gutted to find this news out this morning. I was lucky enough to see both VR and STP and he was an amazing performer. His legacy will live on through the music that we can all listen to forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJxrv68AiEQ

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

This really sucks. First, of course, I feel for everyone who cared about him on a personal and/or professional level.
Secondly, Core and Plush are amazing albums, and it's hard when the front man of a band you feel a connection to dies, especially so young. I guess it can be easy to imagine that our bodies will just keep on truckin' no matter what we do to them, especially when we spend a lot of life in a drug induced haze. Very sad. That poor band and crew who were touring with him. That's gotta be traumatic.

especially after their guitarist just died not long ago too.

HesCalledDyer

Also very eloquently spoken, steved!

steved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO5sPkssrmM

steved

upgraded quality.

eeriepadave

PJ_Soul said:

This really sucks. First, of course, I feel for everyone who cared about him on a personal and/or professional level.
Secondly, Core and Plush are amazing albums, and it's hard when the front man of a band you feel a connection to dies, especially so young. I guess it can be easy to imagine that our bodies will just keep on truckin' no matter what we do to them, especially when we spend a lot of life in a drug induced haze. Very sad. That poor band and crew who were touring with him. That's gotta be traumatic.

Plush wasn't an album it was a song. Purple was their second album

Falling Down

May I add: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXN6diZvP8o

PJ_Soul

eeriepadave said:

PJ_Soul said:

This really sucks. First, of course, I feel for everyone who cared about him on a personal and/or professional level.
Secondly, Core and Plush are amazing albums, and it's hard when the front man of a band you feel a connection to dies, especially so young. I guess it can be easy to imagine that our bodies will just keep on truckin' no matter what we do to them, especially when we spend a lot of life in a drug induced haze. Very sad. That poor band and crew who were touring with him. That's gotta be traumatic.

Plush wasn't an album it was a song. Purple was their second album

Yes, that's what I meant to write (was listening to Purple as I wrote it!).